Jesus never existed

[NYbrah]

why do historians think that there really was someone named jesus born in jerusalem back in the 1st century? there's no historical sources other than christian sources who talk about jesus. if jesus really existed did all those things christians say he did why aren't there any other sources mentioning jesus?

and we still have majority of historians using the fairy tales as source to prove existence of jesus

[Maltese-Falcon]

A lot of history is interpreting sources to determine whether the historical figure existed or if he was a mythological figure. The varied range of sources on Jesus gives a solid inference he existed. The consensus among non Christian historians is that he definitely existed.

[SwagUnlimited]

he exists

pretty sure i saw a mexican guy named jesus before

[ImHuge07]

in4 DepressedBrah proving his existence with bible verses

[seanb1979]

but then who mows my lawn?

[NVious]

It's not about his existence or not (religion is contingent on it, but your learning isn't), it's about taking away what you can from the lessons attributed to him and applying it to your life.

[TheFallOfRome]

I met a guy named Jesus just the other day at a Lowes hardware store.

[NYbrah]

A lot of history is interpreting sources to determine whether the historical figure existed or if he was a mythological figure. The varied range of sources on Jesus gives a solid inference he existed. The consensus among non Christian historians is that he definitely existed.

like i said the first non christian source to mention jesus exists 80 years after supposed death of jesus. that could be because those christians spread their myths around and other people started believing them. htink logically. if jesus really perfomed such miracles why isnt there any other eyewitness source of that time

[LargeWill]

glad we don't have a r/p section for stuff like this

i would really hate to see this discussed somewhere where people who actually care about this could discuss it

[getz1]

He is referenced in Jewish lore however not considered a savior, as well as in the Quran.

[TheCon]

Well, I think everyone has pretty much been convinced by this thread. BRB closing Vatican.

[bbwinner]

If you are sincere and honest, you will find the truth... The Real Truth.

[migueloak]

I can confirm this, I was jesus

[Skywaysteve]

in4 DepressedBrah proving his existence with bible verses

LOl
This is gold!

[PissantSoldier]

why do historians think that there really was someone named jesus born in jerusalem back in the 1st century? there's no historical sources other than christian sources who talk about jesus. if jesus really existed did all those things christians say he did why aren't there any other sources mentioning jesus?

and we still have majority of historians using the fairy tales as source to prove existence of jesus

Because there was.

Virtually all modern history scholars agree that Jesus existed, and, with theologists see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted. Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born BC 7–2 and died AD 30–36. Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and some Greek.

Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

[NYbrah]

The historicity of Jesus refers to the analysis of historical data to determine if Jesus existed as a historical figure, approximately where and when he lived, and if any of the major milestones in his life, such as his method of death, can be confirmed as historical events. In contrast, the study of the historical Jesus goes beyond the question of his historicity and attempts to reconstruct portraits of his life and teachings, based on methods such as biblical criticism of gospel texts and the history of first century Judea.

Virtually all modern history scholars agree that Jesus existed, and, with theologists see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted. Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born BC 7–2 and died AD 30–36. Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and some Greek.] Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

thats what im saying. most histrians think that jesus existed while there is no non-christian source that mentions jesus. those that do are many years after his supposed death. they are taing gospel and its copies as sources for jesus;s existance

denying jesu's existance would be blasphemous just 50 years ago. so maybe in the near future we would have historians re-examining claims of jesus

[Maltese-Falcon]

thats what im saying. most histrians think that jesus existed while there is no non-christian source that mentions jesus. those that do are many years after his supposed death. they are taing gospel and its copies as sources for jesus;s existance

Trust the historians. These aren't Christians praising Jesus. Most of them are atheist historians and they all agree he existed.

[NYbrah]

Trust the historians. These aren't Christians praising Jesus. Most of them are atheist historians and they all agree he existed.

denying jesu's existance would be blasphemous just 50 years ago. so maybe in the near future we would have historians re-examining claims of jesus

[OnTheVolley]

Troy didn't exist either brah.

[blue_aviators]

lol, im pretty sure this is covered in any history 101 class. His existence was true and undeniable. You just havent found the sources...

[PissantSoldier]

thats what im saying. most histrians think that jesus existed while there is no non-christian source that mentions jesus. those that do are many years after his supposed death. they are taing gospel and its copies as sources for jesus;s existance

denying jesu's existance would be blasphemous just 50 years ago. so maybe in the near future we would have historians re-examining claims of jesus

Did you even go to the link? There are plenty of non-Christian sources. Practically all Historians and all Scholars that discuss this subject agree that he existed. What's disputed is who he was and what exactly he did.

See this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori...istian_sources

[Maltese-Falcon]

denying jesu's existance would be blasphemous just 50 years ago. so maybe in the near future we would have historians re-examining claims of jesus

You obviously have down syndrome. If you're interested in it, stop saying he never existed and educate yourself. I don't mean start saying he existed either, but go research the subject without being biased towards one possible outcome. Follow the Wikipedia article and learn.

[InnerThighChafe]

but duh world only b thousands years old. Jewbus b duh truff

[wulpurgis]

his name wasn't "Jesus" but there was probably some ******* who talked a lot of **** and got killed for it, then his wanker followers freaked out and invented Christianity.

it isn't a unique event. Socrates is the same.

[NYbrah]

Did you even go to the link? There are plenty of non-Christian sources.

See this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori...istian_sources

all those sources are atleast 50 years after jesus's supposed death.

[IanPhelps]

inb4 jesus was really black, when the two "parents" were arab. That cheating sloot craving the B B C since the Jesus times.

[Alibabayevich]

Are you ****ing stupid?
You really are denying the fact that Jesus existed?
Jesus did exist and he was a prophet but he wasn't the final one, when will you atheists get your ignorant heads out of the sand and realize that not everything is so black and white. Just because you can't see Allah doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
Can you see air?
No?
Does that mean it doesn't exist.
There are bigger things in this world than just us.
And they are in Jannah.
tl;dr. Not only DID Jesus exist, he was one of Allah's few prophets.

[seanb1979]

this finely carved jade baby jesus figurine dates to circa 1-3 BC and is proof he existed

[OnTheVolley]

Troy didn't exist either brah.

bump

[NYbrah]

You obviously have down syndrome. If you're interested in it, stop saying he never existed and educate yourself. I don't mean start saying he existed either, but go research the subject without being biased towards one possible outcome. Follow the Wikipedia article and learn.

are you retarded? i already told theres not a single contemporary source that mentions jesus. all the sources are many years after his supposed death. any logical thinker would doubt his existence based on that