Kai Greene 3/5 Aesthetic?

[ndog]

While reading the Olympia edition MD issue I noticed it gave Kai a 3/5 on aesthetics. After flipping through the pages Mike Kefalianos had a 5/5 on aesthetics which really surprised me. What does aesthetics really mean, I have only really heard the term used in vague ways and does it really have anything to do with the way bodybuilding is currently judged?

[FAN0FdaSport]

i really love all these things writers or whatever come up with in magazines and radio shows about Kai specifically just to be negative.

dem righteous fruit protection morals!!

[aussieryan]

While reading the Olympia edition MD issue I noticed it gave Kai a 3/5 on aesthetics. After flipping through the pages Mike Kefalianos had a 5/5 on aesthetics which really surprised me. What does aesthetics really mean, I have only really heard the term used in vague ways and does it really have anything to do with the way bodybuilding is currently judged?

Well, I feel like Kai is more aesthetic than Kefalianos, and I'm sure a large portion of others would agree. Regardless, the term "aesthetic" is entirely subjective. One persons version of what is aesthetic may differ from another. It basically means pleasing to the eye or something along those lines. I don't think it has anything to do with how bodybuilding is judged, Branch won the Arnold, and I'm sure 90% of people will agree he's far from aesthetic, however subjective the term may be.

[GetMassive99]

just another stupid Kai hater from MD writing a ridiculous article.
Aesthetics =/= bodybuilding.

[featureless]

Worry about proportions and symmetry. Forget aesthetics - it is irrelevant and shouldn't even be mentioned in a bodybuilding magazine.

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

Worry about proportions and symmetry. Forget aesthetics - it is irrelevant and shouldn't even be mentioned in a bodybuilding magazine.

I couldn't agree more mate. Aesthetics has become some crappy new buzzword thanks to the stupid cult of whatever-that-miscer's-name-was (began with a z I believe) with idiots bemoaning ''lack of aesthetics'' Seriously, who gives a turd. It's bodyBUILDING. Not ''aesthetics'' building.

[2276]

I couldn't agree more mate. Aesthetics has become some crappy new buzzword thanks to the stupid cult of whatever-that-miscer's-name-was (began with a z I believe) with idiots bemoaning ''lack of aesthetics'' Seriously, who gives a turd. It's bodyBUILDING. Not ''aesthetics'' building.

Zorg.

No, wait, that's not it.

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

Zorg.

No, wait, that's not it.

Zarg?

[FAN0FdaSport]

zoidberg i believe

[2276]

Zarg?

That's it!

No, no, no. It's can't be.

Come to think of it I think it was Zork

[featureless]

I couldn't agree more mate. Aesthetics has become some crappy new buzzword thanks to the stupid cult of whatever-that-miscer's-name-was (began with a z I believe) with idiots bemoaning ''lack of aesthetics'' Seriously, who gives a turd. It's bodyBUILDING. Not ''aesthetics'' building.

Spot on! Gotta love the unthinking majority. Ignorance is bliss.

[Abi52]

Worry about proportions and symmetry. Forget aesthetics - it is irrelevant and shouldn't even be mentioned in a bodybuilding magazine.

In bodybuilding, there should be NO LIMITS. Bodybuilders are not developed normally, but EXTREMELY. Therefore they look SUPERHUMAN. That's a different kind of aesthetics.

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

zoidberg i believe

He possessed great claw development IMO.

[beefyron]

it was zoidberg.

i once described kai as looking like a centaur because of his giant legs. if you think of frank zane vs arnold vs franco, franco is my favorite BBer of the bunch, and i love his physique, but he didn't have the "michelangelo's david"/greek sculpture thing the way the other guys did. and, like was said, branch has taken home trophies despite not being "aesthetic".

[featureless]

He possessed great claw development IMO.

But more importantly, aesthetic claw development...

[Abi52]

Stop fuzzing about aesthetics! If bodybuilding is to be taken seriously as a sport, aesthetics can never be a judging criterion. Muscularity (mass, density, condition), symmetry (balanced development of all parts of the body) and presentation are evaluated, not good looks.

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

But more importantly, aesthetic claw development...

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

Or was it Dr Roidberg???

[Big Slim DaDDy]

When I hear aesthetic I think Dexter Jackson or maybe Ronny Rockel. I don't consider many IFBB pros to actually be aesthetic.

[Unbiasedfan]

Aesthetics is what you personaly find atractive, and has nothing to do with bodybuilding. Only ignorants argue that x should of beaten z in a bodybuilding contest, because x was more aesthetic. It has his place, everyone has that favoutite look they prefer in a bodybuilder, theres no use in deniying it. The key is to put that aside when judging a contest, and try to be objective, according to the criteria. Shawn ray has the body that most appeals to me in that sense, and in no way do i feel like he should have won one single olympia against yates, nor that the sport would be better if he did.

Before i started posting in this forum, i spent 1 year lurking, researching and learning what bodybuilding really is and how it's judged, so i didn't make a fool of myself. I wish more people did that, maybe then we could avoid the "how good the 70's were and how bad the 2000's are" weekly stupid threads.

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

Aesthetics is what you personaly find atractive, and has nothing to do with bodybuilding. Only ignorants argue that x should of beaten z in a bodybuilding contest, because x was more aesthetic. It has his place, everyone has that favoutite look they prefer in a bodybuilder, theres no use in deniying it. The key is to put that aside when judging a contest, and try to be objective, according to the criteria. Shawn ray has the body that most appeals to me in that sense, and in no way do i feel like he should have won one single olympia against yates, nor that the sport would be better if he did.

Before i started posting in this forum, i spent 1 year lurking, researching and learning what bodybuilding really is and how it's judged, so i didn't make a fool of myself. I wish more people did that, maybe then we could avoid the "how good the 70's were and how bad the 2000's are" weekly stupid threads.

^^^Another post I totally agree with. If I could rep you I would-on recharge from repping you yesterday alas.

[DPNZ]

You're a great poster, Unbiasedfan.

[wala]

I believe it was Zohan, yes that was it.

Or was that a movie?

[ROMMYromboid]

Aesthetics is what you personaly find atractive, and has nothing to do with bodybuilding. Only ignorants argue that x should of beaten z in a bodybuilding contest, because x was more aesthetic. It has his place, everyone has that favoutite look they prefer in a bodybuilder, theres no use in deniying it. The key is to put that aside when judging a contest, and try to be objective, according to the criteria. Shawn ray has the body that most appeals to me in that sense, and in no way do i feel like he should have won one single olympia against yates, nor that the sport would be better if he did.

Before i started posting in this forum, i spent 1 year lurking, researching and learning what bodybuilding really is and how it's judged, so i didn't make a fool of myself. I wish more people did that, maybe then we could avoid the "how good the 70's were and how bad the 2000's are" weekly stupid threads.

Agree and most of the body builders considered aesthetic are the lower ranked competitors, good example plucked from my 20 years of bodybuilding knowledge would be Ray v Dorian. Dorian destroyed Ray each time and was not often described as aestetic yet he was by far the better athelete.

[BlondeOak]

Absolutely correct. I think Unbiasedfan has hit the nail on the head!!

[Ovillaz]

clever guys...ripping on a dead guy......really???

[BartPimpson]

clever guys...ripping on a dead guy......really???

He's not gonna mind.

[Abi52]

Aesthetics is what you personaly find atractive, and has nothing to do with bodybuilding. Only ignorants argue that x should of beaten z in a bodybuilding contest, because x was more aesthetic. It has his place, everyone has that favoutite look they prefer in a bodybuilder, theres no use in deniying it. The key is to put that aside when judging a contest, and try to be objective, according to the criteria. Shawn ray has the body that most appeals to me in that sense, and in no way do i feel like he should have won one single olympia against yates, nor that the sport would be better if he did.

Thank you, Unbiasedfan! That's exactly what I meant 4 post before yours. I have always tried to follow this path as a judge.

[JimRuffles]

Leave the aesthetics to the 202/212 guys. Let the freaks be freaks in the open class. Now I feel of you can balance mass with aesthetics and flow plus great conditioning then you will do better and be rewarded bc you will be more pleasing to the eye, example: Phil Heath. Yeah hes a freak, but outta the top ten who is more aesthetically pleasing, Dexter maybe, but hes losing size and his conditioning isn't up to par with what we are used to from him.

[MoziPozi]

Are you guys serious saying that aesthetics should not be judged in building but it should be based on symmetry and proportion even when those two things are synonymous, you can't be aesthetic and not have symmetry and proportion. Besides if bodybuilding ever wants to be mainstream it NEEDS to focus on a more tapered and streamlined aesthetic look then what current bodybuilding fans think as aesthetic. Brb thinking people like Dorian,branch,and there I said it Coleman ever stepping on an Olympia stage with a huge gut that not even the die hard bodybuilding fans seem to enjoy. Honestly people like Shawn ray and currently Phil Heath are good examples of bodybuilders that were heading towards and heading towards the right direction.

Inb4 negs