Hello,
Been having this problem when i squat, but only when i go "heavy." It only starts when i put my work-out weight on, which is, 405-445. I can rep it for 8-12, depending on how strong i am that day. I keep my chest out and heels down, but one side of the bar is more forward. I believe it's my right side and i have no idea how to correct it. I would say go lighter, but i don't have the problem when i go light?
If anybody knows why this is happening or has experienced this, please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Edit: Thank so far for the information, any other suggestion??
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01-10-2012, 10:36 AM #1
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Heavy Squater's, GTFIH please need help!
Last edited by LiftStrong21; 01-11-2012 at 07:28 AM.
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01-10-2012, 10:38 AM #2
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01-10-2012, 10:42 AM #6
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I'll pay more attention to see if it's even, that could be it. I usually set it on my trap shelf for comfortablility,but maybe if i set it further up?
I do have difficulty keeping my feet even, maybe because i'm wearing running shoes? Not sure if that would cause it, but they are supper flexible. Looks like my feet are about to burst out from the pressure.
Edit: yes, i always use the same size and weight bar.I strive to be like myself because I know that I can always improve. If I sculpt my goals towards another persons, I will eventually reach it. No matter how far I advance, I will strive to be better than the previous day.
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01-10-2012, 10:43 AM #7
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01-10-2012, 10:54 AM #12
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Running shoes are not suitable for squatting, especially at higher weights, you should buy some actual squatting / weightlifting shoes. The squishy heel in running shoes actually absorbs a certain percentage of the force you're of your drive and makes your squats less efficient.
Also if the above suggestions don't work you might want to see a chiropractor. I found out I have a very light bend in my lumbar spine (scoliosis) which makes one leg slightly shorter which throws me off just a little on certain exercises."When you fall into a pit, you either die or get out."
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01-10-2012, 11:12 AM #14
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TBH, only when i try to correct the form with the heavy weight, do i feel discomfort in my left leg. It mentally distracts me, therefore, in a sense, it can alter my confidence. Today i had a lot of discomfort right below my quad and above my knee. I was trying to fix my form with 455 on my back...stupid me.
Will try new shoes, i also have naturally flat feet. I am currently wearing Gel Evolution 6 asics.
Really hoping this isn't the problem, if the other suggestions don't work; will be my last resort.
Thanks, might try barefoot first, but not sure if that's safe?? Guess it's more natural.I strive to be like myself because I know that I can always improve. If I sculpt my goals towards another persons, I will eventually reach it. No matter how far I advance, I will strive to be better than the previous day.
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01-10-2012, 05:02 PM #18
I'd try going lighter....not just cause of your issue here.....but cause there aint no way in frozen over h*ll that you're squating properly at your size with 445lbs for 12 reps. Id focus on a weight that you can actually squat all the way down with and keep your body tight. I think that will also alleviate your problem
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01-11-2012, 07:11 AM #19
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I have been meaning to film, but haven't had time recently. Pretty sure it's centered on my back, so have me stumped there. Could probably work on some more flexibility.
What is the reasoning behind this, not sure why it's bad?
Yes, i do keep my chest out, was saying heels are always down. I am going to start with single leg-press, then maybe i can isolate each leg.
445 for 12 no, sorry was misleading there. 405 i can 8-12 rep, 12 reps being the most i have ever repped(with a spotter, keep that in mind). The last two reps were terribly hard. Now, can i rep 445 for 5, yes. I am trying to figure out what's going on here, so i will continue to lift 315 for reps.
Thanks to everybody for the help.I strive to be like myself because I know that I can always improve. If I sculpt my goals towards another persons, I will eventually reach it. No matter how far I advance, I will strive to be better than the previous day.
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01-11-2012, 07:29 AM #20
The sole of a running shoe is soft and squishy. If I am going to load 400 lbs on my back, I don't want anything squishy between me and the ground. The more solid the better as more load is transferred into the ground, and less out the side of the shoe. A running shoe is not going to be as stable either.
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01-11-2012, 07:37 AM #22
Yes. Although I wouldn't recommend buying them specifically for weightlifting as they are expensive. I have used Converse Chuck Taylor's with success, and just recently got some olympic shoes with an incompressible elevated heel that I am using now. Both better options than Vibrams IMO.
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01-11-2012, 07:47 AM #24
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300+, leave a link.
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01-11-2012, 08:09 AM #26
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Pics/vids for sure.
I'm having a hard time sorting through everything to tell what it is you're describing.
Are you looking in the mirror and seeing that one end of the bar is farther forward than the other?
If your feet aren't even, wouldn't it mean that one end of the bar should be farther forward?
If you get your feet even and still have one end farther forward, does one shoulder appear to be farther forward as well?
Should make it easier to help if you can clarify a bit.
Are you a high-bar/oly style squatter or a low-bar/PL style squatter?
As you can see, you're getting advice that says to go with a heeled shoe (Oly/weightlifing shoe) and advice that says go with a flat shoe (vibrams, Chucks, barefoot) - your style (OLY vs PL) will make a difference in the type of footwear you'll need and in the form tips that people are giving you.
If you're high-bar, I'd ask for help in the OLY subsection of the PL area.
If you're low-bar, I'd ask for help in the main PL section.
Both groups are helpful and knowledgeable about "their" style of squat.No shoes, no shirt, and I still get service.
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01-11-2012, 08:27 AM #27
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Great information here, really didn't know there were classess of squatting. I would say i am high-bar because of my placement. I would like to get a video up to give a better example. I'll work on that, but for the meantime, thanks.
Edit: People tell me the bar is farther forward on my right, meaning the left would be slanted back. Assuming it has to do with my feet/upper-body placement. Not sure if my right shoulder can't support the weight, therefore, causing the bar to stray forward.I strive to be like myself because I know that I can always improve. If I sculpt my goals towards another persons, I will eventually reach it. No matter how far I advance, I will strive to be better than the previous day.
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01-11-2012, 08:39 AM #28
Bear in mind it's pretty common, and perfectly fine, to see people doing something in between a "pure" Olympic style squat and Powerlifting style squat. Bar placement doesn't dictate how the person actually squats.
It all depends on what that person seeks out of squatting. Powerlifters are trying to lift the most weight possible so they squat in a way that lets them put up the most weight. Oly lifters are trying to strengthen the bottom position of the snatch and C&J so they squat to emulate that position. Many people however are not in either of those two categories and their squat ends up somewhere in between, usually leaning towards one side or the other.
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01-11-2012, 08:41 AM #29
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Post a video and we can help.
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01-11-2012, 08:59 AM #30
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Absolutely agree, just trying to introduce the subject without too many shades of grey.
If nothing else, forces the OP to address the "it depends on what that person seeks...." issues - I'm guessing size/appearance over sheer poundage or improving other lifts, but I hate to take that for granted.
Mostly, I asked about bar position because I was thinking that a high-bar position might lead to this problem more frequently. It would seem to be easier to off-center the bar that way.No shoes, no shirt, and I still get service.
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