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    Capt. can't compare.. no contest.
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    Originally Posted by MickeyRourke View Post
    I think u're confusing Captain America with Batman who is supposed be the peak of HUMAN physical conditioning. Captain America is not natural because he was made this way through the SuperSoldier serum, which not only increases his reflexes, speed, healing ability, but also increases his strength. He is beyond peak physical conditioning.
    The super soldier serum gave Cap the epitome of human physical potential. The more dangerous variants that also resulted in physical deformities and mental illness (like the serum that was given to the Red Skull) far exceeded human potential. But the formula that was given to Cap was only human maximum potential.
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    Spidey is definitely stronger, faster and more agile. He's also been trained by Iron Fist who is one of the top fighters.

    Cap is one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the world.

    It could go either way really, but on paper, Spidey should be able to beat Cap. Cap would probably win because he's Captain America (just like no one really beats Batman or Supes) whereas Spider-man is typically used as a punching bag. But Spider-man going all out would be tough for anyone to beat.

    Spider-man beat a bunch of X-men (including Storm, Prof X, and Wolverine) single-handedly.

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    spiderman is supposed to have superhuman strength, capt america is just supposed to be at the peak of normal human strength
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    Originally Posted by jmstrings View Post
    The super soldier serum gave Cap the epitome of human physical potential. The more dangerous variants that also resulted in physical deformities and mental illness (like the red skulls) far exceeded human potential. But the formula that was given to Cap was only human maximum potential.
    It only becomes "maximum human potential" when he is given the SuperSoldier serum. Without the serum, this "potential" does not exist.





    Originally Posted by Vafongul View Post
    Spidey is definitely stronger, faster and more agile. He's also been trained by Iron Fist who is one of the top fighters.

    Cap is one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the world.

    It could go either way really, but on paper, Spidey should be able to beat Cap. Cap would probably win because he's Captain America (just like no one really beats Batman or Supes) whereas Spider-man is typically used as a punching bag. But Spider-man going all out would be tough for anyone to beat.

    Where the hell did you get the info that he is trained by Iron Fist? He teamed up with Iron Fist plenty of times, but Iron Fist never spend a lengthy period of time training him.






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    Originally Posted by Vafongul View Post
    Spidey is definitely stronger, faster and more agile. He's also been trained by Iron Fist who is one of the top fighters.

    Cap is one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the world.

    It could go either way really, but on paper, Spidey should be able to beat Cap. Cap would probably win because he's Captain America (just like no one really beats Batman or Supes) whereas Spider-man is typically used as a punching bag. But Spider-man going all out would be tough for anyone to beat.

    Spider-man beat a bunch of X-men (including Storm, Prof X, and Wolverine) single-handedly.

    Good comic reference.

    When spidey is pissed, he is much more than a formidable opponent. He seems to hold back a lot, i.e. "great power comes with great responsibility", doesn't want to hurt anyone, etc.
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    Originally Posted by MickeyRourke View Post
    It only becomes "maximum human potential" when he is given the SuperSoldier serum. Without the serum, this "potential" does not exist.

    Where the hell did you get the info that he is trained by Iron Fist? He teamed up with Iron Fist plenty of times, but Iron Fist never spend a lengthy period of time training him.
    Happened in the past few years. He lost his spider-sense and decided he had to learn how to fight w/o it.
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    Originally Posted by Vafongul View Post
    Spidey is definitely stronger, faster and more agile. He's also been trained by Iron Fist who is one of the top fighters.

    Cap is one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the world.

    It could go either way really, but on paper, Spidey should be able to beat Cap. Cap would probably win because he's Captain America (just like no one really beats Batman or Supes) whereas Spider-man is typically used as a punching bag. But Spider-man going all out would be tough for anyone to beat.

    Spider-man beat a bunch of X-men (including Storm, Prof X, and Wolverine) single-handedly.

    This is 80's Spiderman, back then the X-Men were not considered as strong and were not as popular. Since then X-Men's stock grew significantly, especially for Wolverine. Wolverine is unkillable nowadays. I mean they kept his skeleton in a vat of acid and all of his flesh dissolved, and once his skeleton was taken out, he regenerated his flesh and killed everybody.
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    Originally Posted by Vafongul View Post
    Happened in the past few years. He lost his spider-sense and decided he had to learn how to fight w/o it.
    Yeah Iron Fist helped him improve his reflexes to compensate for the loss of his Spider-Sense but he did not train him to improve his fighting style.
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    Captain would win. He is a trained soldier with years of tactical training involving weapons and hand to hand scenarios.

    Spider Man is not.

    Both are equal in strength.
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    edit: damn, that shows a comic but in spanish..

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    damn, **** got real on the second page....

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    spiderman, when he's not fuking around, can lift up to 90 tons. he has the strength to lift buildings but he usually focus on being angile and fast capt a and he get locking in the octogon theres no way cap could match his speed and focused strength

    mind you, spiderman kicked hulks ass a few times
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    Originally Posted by MickeyRourke View Post
    Yeah Iron Fist helped him improve his reflexes to compensate for the loss of his Spider-Sense but he did not train him to improve his fighting style.
    You're right, it was actually Shang Chi that taught him.
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    plus spidey is a boss

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    Capt American is the pinnacle of human strength with the sharpest mind a human can have. He Also has the level of bravery that is his greatest quality.



    This is why Iron Man seemed more impressive than Capt America in the movie Avengers.
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    Capt American is the pinnacle of human strength with the sharpest mind a human can have. He Also has the level of bravery that is his greatest quality.



    This is why Iron Man seemed more impressive than Capt America in the movie Avengers.
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    Originally Posted by kneeonbelly View Post


    spiderman, when he's not fuking around, can lift up to 90 tons. he has the strength to lift buildings but he usually focus on being angile and fast capt a and he get locking in the octogon theres no way cap could match his speed and focused strength

    mind you, spiderman kicked hulks ass a few times
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    Just went trough that Marvel Universe Wiki where supposedly they list the official ratings on different categories for every character... and not sure if srs.

    It says Captain America has 3 out of 7 in strenght and Spidey and Cyclops (who i thought it was just a human with laser eyes) have 4 out of 7.

    It says Wolverine has 4 out of 7 durability but people in the misc have always said he is like inmortal or close to it. Mind you this are the official ratings.
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    spiderman would probably win a fight between the two. you just can't argue his strength and speed. toooooo fast. plus the spider sense. but its REALLY close. cap is smarter, tactically superior, and the better hand to hand fighter.


    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    Just went trough that Marvel Universe Wiki where supposedly they list the official ratings on different categories for every character... and not sure if srs.

    It says Captain America has 3 out of 7 in strenght and Spidey and Cyclops (who i thought it was just a human with laser eyes) have 4 out of 7.

    It says Wolverine has 4 out of 7 durability but people in the misc have always said he is like inmortal or close to it. Mind you this are the official ratings.
    idk how to say this without sounding like a phaggot, but when arguing comics people usually rely on their comics feats rather then wiki. most of the time wiki's are disregarded completely. its all about what that character has done in actual comics.
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    Is this real life? Spider-Man. He can lift approximately 10 tons (may be more these days), meaning he can throw a ****ing car like he's tossing a big bag of potatoes. I can recall more than one occasion where he's knocked guys out by flicking them with his finger. Captain America is a roided up dude who can lift MAYBE half a ton if he's having a really really good day. Lettuce beef cereal: Spider-Man could kill Captain America if he threw an honest-to-God punch.



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    Originally Posted by RevSpunkwater View Post
    Is this real life? Spider-Man. He can lift approximately 10 tons, meaning he can throw a ****ing car like he's tossing a big bag of potatoes. Captain America is a roided up dude who can lift MAYBE half a ton if he's having a really really good day. Lettuce beef cereal: Spider-Man could kill Captain America if he threw an honest-to-God punch.

    End thread, phaggot.
    not really, cap can take a beating. gambit tried to blow him up and it did pretty much nothing but shred his uniform. i'd still give a slight edge to spiderman, but when it comes to winning and losing... cap gets the win 9/10 times simply because he is captain america. spiderman is infamous for getting the sh*t kicked out of him.

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