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[spiderman997]

white rice increase insulin, so i use white.

I'm dying lol

[KrazyEyezKillah]

Afk disregarding studies

This. Gets owned by studies, recognizes ownage, responds to the following post instead.

[spiderman997]

...you proved my point thanks. if they give steroids to people who are injured and even give testosterone to males with decreasing test levels.....then why aren't they ****in huge? BECAUSE THEY ARENT TRAINING AND DIETING PROPERLY. my point exactly you can trust take steroids and expect to get massive just sitting there...without putting in insane work and on a strict diet and eating like an animal its simply not gonna be effective. same for a person not using steroids, you eat according to your goal. someone training hard as **** and eating according to their goals is gonna have much quicker and better results than someone train hard as ****, but just eating at random times and eating whenever they want. thanks for your time bro. glad i taught you something.

I'll post this one more time

Citation: The first link I posted.

In case you are too dumb to read a chart: the guys taking testosterone put on more LBM WHILE NOT TRAINING than the natural guys did while training. They put on 17lbs of muscle while sitting on their asses.

Inb4 ignored again.

[KrazyEyezKillah]

white rice increase insulin, so i use white.

All credibility is now lost.

[BradCathie]

What's the ratio of extra gains I will make if I have my protein shake after 30 minutes in comparison to the gains I will make if I have it after an hour?

[BRAHdley]

All credibility is now lost.

ever hear of antoine valilant? go check out his diet and the reasons why he eats everything he does

[Visagex]

op whats your thought on creatine?

my friend is taking it and i keep telling him that steroids are bad but he doesn't listen

[BRAHdley]

I'll post this one more time

In case you are too dumb to read a chart: the guys taking testosterone put on more LBM WHILE NOT TRAINING than the natural guys did while training. They put on 17lbs of muscle while sitting on their asses.

Inb4 ignored again.

and ill let you know, being friends and training with many people who have used. you're definitely not gaining 17lbs just sitting there....let alone 5lbs.... you're lucky to gain 17lbs training and dieting properly, and with that 17lbs you're lucky to keep 12lbs after water retention goes away.

[BRAHdley]

op whats your thought on creatine?

my friend is taking it and i keep telling him that steroids are bad but he doesn't listen

just keep telling him steroids are bad

[Visagex]

just keep telling him steroids are bad

and he also started doing these things called "deathlifts"?

sounds dangerous, but i think hes gonna really hurt his back

[KrazyEyezKillah]

ever hear of antoine valilant? go check out his diet and the reasons why he eats everything he does

So far it sounds like the defenses you've provided are all based on what other individuals are telling you/doing, "I train with Mr. Universe, so I'm right," "antoine valilant does it, so I'm right." Meanwhile we're laughing at you for you using white rice to spike insulin because we're basing our knowledge of what is actual scientifically valid fact.

In fact, stop responding to me. Respond to spidey. It's fun watching you try and talk your way around peer-reviewed science.

[BRAHdley]

What's the ratio of extra gains I will make if I have my protein shake after 30 minutes in comparison to the gains I will make if I have it after an hour?

everybody works differently man, play with different methods and find what works for you. there is no one right way to do things.

[spiderman997]

ever hear of antoine valilant? go check out his diet and the reasons why he eats everything he does

[BRAHdley]

and he also started doing these things called "deathlifts"?

sounds dangerous, but i think hes gonna really hurt his back

tell him to add the deadlifts into his shoulder workout, hell be safe then

[grux12]

This. Gets owned by studies, recognizes ownage, responds to the following post instead.

This sounds familiar...

[spiderman997]

and ill let you know, being friends and training with many people who have used. you're definitely not gaining 17lbs just sitting there....let alone 5lbs....

Yeah, research that was conducted by leading experts in the field, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine after months of peer review is totally just ****ing with us. They just want us to feel bad.

[BRAHdley]

So far it sounds like the defenses you've provided are all based on what other individuals are telling you/doing, "I train with Mr. Universe, so I'm right," "antoine valilant does it, so I'm right." Meanwhile we're laughing at you for you using white rice to spike insulin because we're basing our knowledge of what is actual scientifically valid fact.

In fact, stop responding to me. Respond to spidey. It's fun watching you try and talk your way around peer-reviewed science.

no one is right in this sport? because everything works differently for peoples bodies. i find that i digest pasta and white rice better so i use them as my staple carbs. its all about what works for you. never said i do it because people tell me to, i do it because I've learned from people who have been around the block. why do you think half these people look the same still? taking someone else's diet and putting it into your body isn't going to have the same effect on you as it has on them, we all respond differently to things. thanks for your time bro.

[BRAHdley]

Yeah, research that was conducted by leading experts in the field, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine after months of peer review is totally just ****ing with us. They just want us to feel bad.

...dont they also say dark chocolate cause cancer or some ****? theres studies for everything bro, doesn't mean they're right. what I'm saying is go give it a try if you want. they give steroids to cancer patients too...so why aren't all cancer patients walking around looking like jay cutler or arnold? idk man

[spiderman997]

...dont they also say dark chocolate cause cancer or some ****? theres studies for everything bro, doesn't mean they're right.

This is literally the ****tiest cop out you could possibly use

Did not read methodology
Did not read data results
Did not look at statistical analysis
Doesn't know the sample size
Excuse for not doing or knowing any of this is "theres studies for everything"

Take a research methods class and stop being a ****ing retard. You think you are qualified to have an opinion on something that you obviously know jack **** about.

[BRAHdley]

This is literally the ****tiest cop out you could possibly use

Did not read methodology
Did not read data results
Did not look at statistical analysis
Doesn't know the sample size
Excuse for not doing or knowing any of this is "theres studies for everything"

Take a research methods class and stop being a ****ing retard. You think you are qualified to have an opinion on something that you obviously know jack **** about.

and what exactly makes your opinion qualified? I'm done this discussion. all i gotta say is ill buy you some test and deca and all you gotta do is inject it and sit on the couch and eat chips....i can guarantee after 4 cycles you won't be anywhere close to stepping onto the olmypia stage bro...takes a lot more work than that.

[grux12]

...dont they also say dark chocolate cause cancer or some ****?

Quit pulling chit out of your ass; source it, please.

theres studies for everything bro, doesn't mean they're right.

So what you're saying is the fact that there are studies for everything means those studies are wrong.

what I'm saying is go give it a try if you want.

inb4 hodge twins joke

they give steroids to cancer patients too...

Tell me, OP: what's the difference between a corticosteroid and gear?

so why aren't all cancer patients walking around looking like jay cutler or arnold? idk man

What kind of steroids are given to cancer patients, Op? Please source a legitimate, respected, PEER-phucking-REVIEWED source claiming that oncologists use anabolic steroids as a staple in cancer treatment.



Dumb ass.

inb4 Op gives himself a Darwin Award.

[spiderman997]

and what exactly makes your opinion qualified?

5'6" 215lbs, squat 625lbs, bench 405lbs, deadlift 660lbs.

I can play the same game as you you dumb ****.

[BRAHdley]

Quit pulling chit out of your ass; source it, please.


So what you're saying is the fact that there are studies for everything means those studies are wrong.




inb4 hodge twins joke


Tell me, OP: what's the difference between a corticosteroid and gear?


What kind of steroids are given to cancer patients, Op? Please source a legitimate, respected, PEER-phucking-REVIEWED source claiming that oncologists use anabolic steroids as a staple in cancer treatment.



Dumb ass.

inb4 Op gives himself a Darwin Award.

if you go back and read i wasn't the one who said they give steroids to medical patients. i simply said if they give steroids to burn victims why aren't they huge?

like i said I'm done with this argument. but if you guys ever give this taking steroids, sitting on the couch, and then trying to compete in the olympia a try let me know how it goes. I'm sure you'll be huge!

[BRAHdley]

5'6" 215lbs, squat 625lbs, bench 405lbs, deadlift 660lbs.

I can play the same game as you you dumb ****.

exactly, so what makes you more qualified than me? congratulations on your stats bro

[spiderman997]

exactly, so what makes you more qualified than me?

What makes you more qualified than me you dumb mother****er.

I have:
An academic background in exercise science
More knowledge on the current research
I am much larger than you
I am much stronger than you
I have trained many more people than you

You have:
Neat posters on an internet bulletin board that you claim to hate
?????

[grux12]

if you go back and read i wasn't the one who said they give steroids to medical patients.

Oh, then maybe this is a different BRAHdley on a different forum in a different reality who said this:

they give steroids to cancer patients too...so why aren't all cancer patients walking around looking like jay cutler or arnold? idk man

Still awaiting your rebuttal to the rest of my post.

[BRAHdley]

What makes you more qualified than me you dumb mother****er.

I have:
An academic background in exercise science
More knowledge on the current research
I am much larger than you
I am much stronger than you
I have trained many more people than you

You have:
Neat posters on an internet bulletin board that you claim to hate
?????

never said i was more qualified than you lol
but thanks for your list of qualifications.

i don't really care to compare our qualifications

but if we must
i also have an academic background is exercise science
you're not that much larger than me...at all i am 205lbs...you have 0 thickness to you.
our lifts are pretty identical
and true you may have trained more people than me...but i am coached and trained by greg long, and fairly good friends with many of the universal/animal team members.

don't know if that qualifies me to speak my opinion though...but i also don't really care.

lets just end this discussion.

[spiderman997]

you're not that much larger than me...at all i am 205lbs...you have 0 thickness to you.

5'6" 215 not much bigger than 5'11" 205... seems legit.

[grux12]

lets just end this discussion.

ITT: Op attempts to pass his misinformed opinions off as facts, ignores crushing evidence against said opinions, claims he never made several posts in the first place, then wants to end the discussion.

I'm reasonably certain we'll be seeing you as a nominee at the 2012 Darwin Awards.






STILL awaiting responses to my calling you out on your bull chit.

[BRAHdley]

5'6" 215 not much bigger than 5'11" 205... seems legit.

but if you go on my page and compare the picture you sent me to any of my pictures....you will see that i am actually much thicker than you.....arms, chest, lats, and just overall....all you have is abs.

this is the least time I'm replying so good luck with the rest of your training and training people.
and that wasn't even sarcastic, good luck.