2 Texas Method Workouts - Which One?

[aurelius381]

My current workout looks like this:

Volume Day
5x5 Squat
1x10 Squat (70%)
5x5 Press
1x10 Press (70%)
5x3 Powerclean
5x10 Chinup

Moderate Day
2x5 Front Squat
1x10 Front Squat (70%)
3x5 B. Press
2x10 D.B. Press (70%)
5x10 Dips

Intensity Day
1x5 Squat
1x5 Press
1x5 Deadlift
1x10 Deadlift (70%)
5x10 Pullups

My Volume day is long and SUCKS and I rarely have the energy or strength to do the chins.

Would it kill the program if I split the volume day into two volume work outs per week? Something like this:

Volume Day 1
5x5 Squat
2x10 Squat
5x3 Powerclean
3x5 PowerClean

Volume Day 2
5x5 Press
2x10 Press
5x10 chinups

My current 5RM's: Squat 375, Deadlift 375, Press 165, Bench 215, Powerclean 160 (bad form on bench caused shoulder injury which has set back gains several months)

[justroberson]

I've seen plenty of people split the volume day into 2 days, should be fine. Usually they have it as Squat/Press the first day, then Power Clean/Assistance the next day. A "lower/upper" VD split should work as well.

But before doing that i'd consider dropping all those extra 10 rep sets (70%). They seem completely unnecessary.

[GinjaNinja85]

I've seen plenty of people split the volume day into 2 days, should be fine. Usually they have it as Squat/Press the first day, then Power Clean/Assistance the next day. A "lower/upper" VD split should work as well.

But before doing that i'd consider dropping all those extra 10 rep sets (70%). They seem completely unnecessary.

Completely agree, no need for the extra sets. And splitting the volume up over two days is no reason to up the back off sets further. That's even worse.

Splitting the squat and bench/press volume up seems ok to me. I've seen it work just fine although you should only do it if you really struggle to get through volume day.

[aurelius381]

Thanks for the input. Splitting it along the squat/press and powerclean/assistance lets me put maximal effort into the most difficult lifts. Makes sense. If I can't recover from volume workouts by intensity day, then something is wrong.

The back off sets are at 70% of the work set weight and not my 1RM. I added them for some hypertrophy (yeah, aesthetics are nice too) and more volume. Similar to 5/3/1 Boring But Big. I can see where the added volume will fatigue me before I do powercleans on my current volume day (which a two day split would solve) but I don't see the disadvantage of back off sets otherwise.

[GinjaNinja85]

Thanks for the input. Splitting it along the squat/press and powerclean/assistance lets me put maximal effort into the most difficult lifts. Makes sense. If I can't recover from volume workouts by intensity day, then something is wrong.

The back off sets are at 70% of the work set weight and not my 1RM. I added them for some hypertrophy (yeah, aesthetics are nice too) and more volume. Similar to 5/3/1 Boring But Big. I can see where the added volume will fatigue me before I do powercleans on my current volume day (which a two day split would solve) but I don't see the disadvantage of back off sets otherwise.

I see your intention. I just had a read of the Swollertrophy section of the Texas Method e book and it suggests that if you add back off sets, you should do 2-5 sets of 8-12 at 75-80% of your training weight and use rest pause (15 secs) to get a pump.

However, it also says to do just 3-5 sets of triples as your volume work to account for it. You might give yourself recovery problems by adding back off sets to a 5x5 volume setup and it might interfere with the all important intensity day.

[aurelius381]

Makes sense. I am wanting to push my 1RM more than 'get big'. I am going to compete in an invitational Nov. 3rd (Squat/DL/OHP) and want a 1000# total. So I will take y'alls advice and drop the back off sets except for on the DL. Stupid me...trying to come up with a 'perfect' work out plan. If it works, don't **** with it! lol.

I'm going with this:

Volume 1
5x5 Squat
5x5 Press
5x10 Chins

Volume 2
5x5 Powerclean
5x10 Dips (moved dips off of light day)
5x5 Rows

[rancid_theclash]

this thread is so relevant to my interests!! just gotta knew job and voume day is just RIDICULOUS to do before work!!!

[Sinaku5]

I see your intention. I just had a read of the Swollertrophy section of the Texas Method e book and it suggests that if you add back off sets, you should do 2-5 sets of 8-12 at 75-80% of your training weight and use rest pause (15 secs) to get a pump.

However, it also says to do just 3-5 sets of triples as your volume work to account for it. You might give yourself recovery problems by adding back off sets to a 5x5 volume setup and it might interfere with the all important intensity day.

im going to be starting Texas method next week. im interested in the swollertrophy u speak bout.

can u explain how the e book advises on including it into your workout. i was going yo just include hypertrophy work after volume and intensity days but is there a more effective way of adding these in that u know of?

[GinjaNinja85]

im going to be starting Texas method next week. im interested in the swollertrophy u speak bout.

can u explain how the e book advises on including it into your workout. i was going yo just include hypertrophy work after volume and intensity days but is there a more effective way of adding these in that u know of?

As well as what I put above for the OP, it also suggests a ten rep set up. That's volume 3x10, intensity 1x10. Alternatively you can use a reverse pyramid for the volume 3x10 reducing each set by 10% from the first top set and then set a new 5, 8, 10 or 20RM on intensity day. You can cycle through these as in the basic setup where you can cycle through 5s, 3s and singles to stop you getting stuck.

It's a good e book. I cannot wait to start TM.

[Sinaku5]

As well as what I put above for the OP, it also suggests a ten rep set up. That's volume 3x10, intensity 1x10. Alternatively you can use a reverse pyramid for the volume 3x10 reducing each set by 10% from the first top set and then set a new 5, 8, 10 or 20RM on intensity day. You can cycle through these as in the basic setup where you can cycle through 5s, 3s and singles to stop you getting stuck.

It's a good e book. I cannot wait to start TM.

Ty. I've drafted my own way to incorporate assistance exercises while keeping the 5x5 scheme listed in practical programming.

ill be starting it Sunday with a log. ill prolly also buy the e book for ****s and giggles.

[GinjaNinja85]

Ty. I've drafted my own way to incorporate assistance exercises while keeping the 5x5 scheme listed in practical programming.

ill be starting it Sunday with a log. ill prolly also buy the e book for ****s and giggles.

Let me know so I can sub. I have a filthy interest in Texas Method journals

[Sinaku5]

Let me know so I can sub. I have a filthy interest in Texas Method journals

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