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    The Rational male. Break down of why girls cheat.

    http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/20...les-of-mating/

    This post pretty much explains why woman cheat on men. Its so simple yet most people choose to gloss things over and believe in "true love" and all the other crap hollywood feeds you. Wake up and don't be a bitch.

    Schedules of Mating
    By Rollo Tomassi
    There are methods and social contrivances women have used for centuries to ensure that the best male’s genes are selected and secured with the best male provisioning she’s capable of attracting. Ideally the best Man should exemplify both, but rarely do the two exist in the same male (particularly these days) so in the interest of achieving her biological imperative, and prompted by an innate need for security, the feminine as a whole had to develop social conventions and methodologies (which change as her environment and personal conditions do) to effect this. Men are not only up against a female genetic imperative, but also centuries long feminine social conventions established and adapted from a time long before human beings could accurately determine genetic origins.

    I’ve detailed in many prior threads that mate selection is a psycho-biological function that millennia of evolution has hardwired into both sexes. So internalized and socialized is this process into our collective psyches that we rarely recognize we’re subject to these motivators even when we continually repeat the same behaviors manifested by them (such as having the second kid with the Alpha Bad Boy). So saying that we’re not subject to conditions we’re or are only vaguely aware of is a bit naive.

    It’s simple deductive logic to follow that for a species to survive it must provide it’s offspring with the best possible conditions to ensure it’s survival – either that or to reproduce in such quantity that it ensures survival. The obvious application of this for women is sharing parental investment with the best possible mate her own genetics allow her to attract and who can provide long term security for her and any potential offspring. Thus women are biologically, psychologically and sociologically the filters of their own reproduction, where as men’s reproductive methodology is to scatter as much of his genetic material as humanly possible to the widest available quantity of sexually available females. He of course has his own criteria for mating selection and determining the best genetic pairing for his reproduction (i.e. she’s gotta be hot), but his criteria is certainly less discriminating than that for women (i.e. no one’s ugly after 2am). This is evidenced in our own hormonal biology; men possess between 12 and17 times the amount of testosterone (the primary hormone in sexual arousal) women do and women produce substantially more estrogen (instrumental in sexual caution) and oxytocin (fostering feelings of security and nurturing) than men.

    That stated, both of these methodologies conflict in practice. For a woman to best ensure the survival of her young, a man must necessarily abandon his method of reproduction in favor of her own. This then sets a contradictory imperative for him to pair with a woman who will satisfy his methodology. A male must sacrifice his reproductive schedule to satisfy that of the woman he pairs with. Thus, with so much genetic potential at stake on his part of the risk, he want’s not only to ensure that she is the best possible candidate for breeding (and future breeding), but also to know that his progeny will benefit from both parent’s investment.

    Side note: One interesting outcome of this psycho-biological dynamic is men’s ability to spot their own children in a crowd of other children more quickly and with greater acuity than even their mothers. Studies have shown that men have the ability to more quickly and accurately identify their own children in a room full of kids dressed in the same uniforms than the mothers of the child. Again, this stresses the subconscious importance of this genetic trade off.

    These are the rudiments of human sexual selection and reproduction. There are many other social, emotional, psychological intricacies that are associated with these fundamentals, but they are the underlying motivations and considerations that subconsciously influence sexual selection.

    Social Convention
    To counter this subconscious dynamic to their own genetic advantage women initiate social conventions and psychological schemas to better facilitate their own breeding methodologies. This is why women always have the “prerogative to change her mind” and the most fickle of behaviors become socially excusable, while men’s behavior is constrained to a higher standard of responsibility to “do the right thing” which is invariably to the advantage of a woman’s reproductive scheme . This is why guys who are ‘Players’, and fathers who abandon mothers to pursue their innate reproduction method are villains, and fathers who selflessly sacrifice themselves financially, emotionally and life decision-wise, often to the benefit of children they didn’t father, are considered social heroes for complying with women’s genetic imperatives.

    This is also the root motivation for female-specific social dynamics such as LJBF rejections, women’s propensity for victimhood (as they’ve learned that this engenders ‘savior’ mental schemas for men’s breeding schedules – Cap’n Save a Ho) and even marriage itself.

    Good Dads vs Good Genes
    The two greatest difficulties for women to overcome in their own methodology is that they are only at a sexually viable peak for a short window of time (generally their 20s) and the fact that the qualities that make a good long term partner (the Good Dad) and the qualities that make for good breeding stock (Good Genes) only rarely manifest themselves in the same male. Provisioning and security potential are fantastic motivators for pairing with a Good Dad, but the same characteristics that make him such are generally a disadvantage when compared with the man who better exemplifies genetic, physical attraction and the risk taking qualities that would imbue her child with a better capacity to adapt to it’s environment (i.e stronger, faster, more attractive than others to ensure the passing of her own genetic material to future generations). This is the Jerk vs. Nice Guy paradox writ large on an evolutionary scale.

    Men and women innately (though unconsciously) understand this dynamic, so in order for a woman to have the best that the Good Dad has to offer while taking advantage of the best that the Good Genes man has, she must invent and constantly modify social conventions to keep the advantage in her biological favor.

    Reproductive Schedules
    This paradox then necessitates that women (and by default men) must subscribe to short term and long term schedules of mating. Short term schedules facilitate breeding with the Good Genes male, while long term breeding is reserved the Good Dad male. This convention and the psycho-social schemas that accompany it are precisely why women will marry the Nice Guy, stable, loyal, (preferably) doctor and still **** the pool boy or the cute surfer she met on spring break. In our genetic past, a male with good genes implied an ability to be a good provider, but modern convention has thwarted this, so new social and mental schemas had to be developed for women.

    Cheating
    For this dynamic and the practicality of enjoying the best of both genetic worlds, women find it necessary to ‘cheat’. This cheating can be done proactively or reactively.

    In the reactive model, a woman who has already paired with her long term partner choice, engages in a extramarital or extra-pairing, sexual intercourse with a short term partner (i.e. the cheating wife or girlfriend). That’s not to say this short term opportunity cannot develop into a 2nd, long term mate, but the action of infidelity itself is a method for securing better genetic stock than the committed male provider is capable of supplying.

    Proactive cheating is the single Mommy dilema. This form of ‘cheating’ relies on the woman breeding with a Good Genes male, bearing his children and then abandoning him, or having him abandon her, (again through invented social conventions) in order to find a Good Dad male to provide for her and the children of her Good Genes partner to ensure their security.

    I want to stress again that (most) women do not have some consciously constructed and recognized master plan to enact this cycle and deliberately trap men into it. Rather, the motivations for this behavior and the accompanying social rationales invented to justify it are an unconscious process. For the most part, women are unaware of this dynamic, but are nonetheless subject to it’s influence. For a female of any species to facilitate a methodology for breeding with the best genetic partner she’s able to attract AND to ensure her own and her offspring’s survival with the best provisioning partner; this is an evolutionary jackpot.

    The Cuckold
    On some level of consciousness, men innately sense something is wrong with this situation, though they may not be able to place why they feel it or misunderstand it in the confusion of women’s justifications for it. Or they become frustrated by the social pressures to ‘do the right thing’, are shamed into martyrdom/savior-hood and committed to a feigned responsibility to these conventions. Nevertheless, some see it well enough to steer clear of single mothers, either by prior experience or observing other male cuckolds saddled with the responsibility of raising and providing for – no matter how involved or uninvolved – another man’s successful reproduction efforts with this woman.

    Men often fall into the role of the proactive or reactive Cuckold. He will never enjoy the same benefits as his mates short term partner(s) to the same degree, in the way of sexual desire or immediacy of it, while at the same time enduring the social pressures of having to provide for this Good Genes father’s progeny. It could be argued that he may contribute minimally to their welfare, but on some level, whether emotional, physical, financial or educational he will contribute some effort for another man’s genetic stock in exchange for a limited form of sexuality/intimacy from the mother. To some degree, (even if only by his presence) he is sharing the parental investment that should be borne by the short term partner. If nothing else, he contributes the time and effort to her he could be better invested in finding a sexual partner with which he could pursue his own genetic imperative by his own methodology.

    However, needless to say, there is no shortage of men sexually deprived enough to ‘see past’ the long term disadvantages, and not only rewarding, but reinforcing a single mother’s bad decisions (bad from his own interest’s POV) with regard to her breeding selections and schedules in exchange for short term sexual gratification. Furthermore, by reinforcing her behavior thusly, he reinforces the social convention for both men and women. It’s important to bear in mind that in this age women are ultimately, soley responsible for the men they choose to mate with (baring rape of course) AND giving birth to their children. Men do bear responsibility for their actions no doubt, but it is ultimately the decision of the female and her judgement that decides her and her children’s fate.

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    Originally Posted by jacko16 View Post
    give me cliffs per section and i'll rep
    Read it.
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    If you have an avi, gays are beating off to you. Congrats.

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    Originally Posted by TeenageBuilder View Post
    tl;dr
    Teen misc. Negged. (srs).

    The men are talking.
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    Read it. It all makes sense. Fuk single moms.
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    Originally Posted by SubwayToVenus View Post
    Read it. It all makes sense. Fuk single moms.
    **** them as in have sex with them yes.

    Cant really be mad at them its all instinct and they are looking out for number one. You just have to do the same. Dont be a martyr ******* and use your resources to advance someone else genetics.
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    It seems like women are undeveloped, unevolved, barely conscious pond scum totally convinced of their own superiority as they scurry about their short, pointless lives.

































    Just kidding. But seriously, they seem primitive.
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    so the reason girls cheat is because you are dad material? wtf
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    CLIFFS:
    -Sloots cheat because they want good genes for their children
    -They also want a good father
    -often they cannot have both cause 10k a day CEO's that look like Clooney are hard to come by
    - They faurk dudes that look like Clooney then settle with good provider brahs

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    lulz. Kind of funny, isn't it?

    All these "nice guys" just end up taking care of the offspring of the males that make sloots wet.

    As I've said before. These days, women don't want men for long term relationships. They want man-pets that double as wallets that'll take of them while they **** the "good genes" for their offspring. Blame society.
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    good read OP
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    Man, I read the whole thing and I must say all of it is true.

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    men gonna men. Women gonna women. Men and women cheat in equal amounts. Human beings in general are not supposed to be monogamous.
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    Originally Posted by amerikansjc View Post
    CLIFFS:
    -Sloots cheat because they want good genes for their children
    -They also want a good father
    -often they cannot have both cause 10k a day CEO's that look like Clooney are hard to come by
    - They faurk dudes that look like Clooney then settle with good provider brahs

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    The way I see it is..

    if you can make a girl fall head over heels for you along side of being attractive in the first, then she's less likely to cheat (if she's a good respectable girl, cuz they are out there) BUT ALWAYS ASSUME SHE WILL EVENTUALLY

    Now, here's what you must do emotionally, NEVER GET TO CLOSE OR ATTACHED! Maintain all independence..

    You can enjoy her, be blissfully happy, pretend you are in love and head over heels, hell you may even feel that way, and be willing to spend the rest of your life with her..

    BUT! in your mind, deep down inside YOU HAVE TO KNOW you are not!! And at the drop of a hat, IF THIS BITCH ever cheats, she is gone out of your life for good!!

    Now.. you must plant this in her mind, and it cannot be a bluff.

    You have to be ready to sever all ties if she cheats, and never look back.
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    This thread deserves to be stickied.
    This. So glad you misc are aware of the rationalmale.
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    Originally Posted by jrhodez View Post
    The way I see it is..

    if you can make a girl fall head over heels for you along side of being attractive in the first, then she's less likely to cheat (if she's a good respectable girl, cuz they are out there)

    Now, here's what you must do emotionally, NEVER GET TO CLOSE OR ATTACHED! Maintain all independence..

    You can enjoy her, pretend you are in love and head over heels, hell you may even feel that way.. BUT! in your mind, deep down inside you know you are not and at the drop of a hat, IF THIS BITCH ever cheats, she is gone out of your life for good!!

    and you must plant this in her mind, and it cannot be a bluff.

    You have to be ready to sever all ties if she cheats, and never look back.
    This guy knows where his bread is buttered.

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    i'm sure that's an interesting read OP but

    srsly wtf that's the kind of **** that can really mess you up socially and srsly harm your relationship towards women. even if all of that stuff is true i would much rather live in my dream world were "true love" exists and where there is something MORE to it than sexual-biology. how can you not get depressed as **** over stuff like that?

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    Originally Posted by wickedwayz View Post
    never ever cheated....if i got bored with ex he became ex. No need to cheat. I would become psycho chop a d*ck off if, I was cheated on, I expect the same respect.
    There is no way to say this without coming across as a prick, but to get an idea of what is going on, you have to watch what woman do and disregard what they say.
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    Originally Posted by ParasiteComplex View Post
    All these "nice guys" just end up taking care of the offspring of the males that make sloots wet.

    As I've said before. These days, women don't want men for long term relationships. They want man-pets that double as wallets that'll take of them while they **** the "good genes" for their offspring. Blame society.
    Society? Nah. Like it or not, it's the genetically optimal strategy. Society (and its stated attitudes about cheating) just gives them a reason to be more discreet about it. If you need to blame something, blame the genes.
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    Originally Posted by lemonic View Post
    i'm sure that's an interesting read OP but

    srsly wtf that's the kind of **** that can really mess you up socially and srsly harm your relationship towards women. even if all of that stuff is true i would much rather live in my dream world were "true love" exists and where there is something MORE to it than sexual-biology. how can you not get depressed as **** over stuff like that?

    brb staying in my happy dreamworld
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    Your dreamworld we be crushed at some point and you will become a rational male. Even if it doesn't surely you can see the evidence all around you. Be rational and logical, not some hollywood fantasist.
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    Originally Posted by lemonic View Post
    i'm sure that's an interesting read OP but

    srsly wtf that's the kind of **** that can really mess you up socially and srsly harm your relationship towards women. even if all of that stuff is true i would much rather live in my dream world were "true love" exists and where there is something MORE to it than sexual-biology. how can you not get depressed as **** over stuff like that?

    brb staying in my happy dreamworld
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    I''m not sure which link, but actually Rollo (the author of the blog in question) made a post about this too.

    He also addresses people living in a dreamworld. It's not conducive to good relationships with girls. Better be aware and know how to manage.

    :EDIT: wizard chief ^ - better to be aware and know how the game works than have your world get crushed.

    Originally Posted by trygve View Post
    Society? Nah. Like it or not, it's the genetically optimal strategy. Society (and its stated attitudes about cheating) just gives them a reason to be more discreet about it. If you need to blame something, blame the genes.
    Correct. Society SUPPORTS it because they support women. Society is made up of women, btw. Not sure the link where it gets explained, but basically a man can live by himself, independent of society. A woman cannot. The feminine imperative takes priority, and its your choice as a man to suck up to it as a beta WK or to live opposed.

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    Now that you have read rationalmale, read up on this:

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    A younger guy's perspective on the matter.
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    Originally Posted by ChickenDippaz View Post
    Now that you have read rationalmale, read up on this:

    http://flyfreshandyoung.wordpress.co...-more-or-less/


    A younger guy's perspective on the matter.
    I also subscribe to this. Rapes for you.
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