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    Looking amazing man. You're going to shatter your goal into pieces with that kinda rock hard and sharp weaponry!
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    Here we go again, as Chuck D would say, time to BRING THE NOISE.

    This week's stats and pics

    Last week's weight 178.5
    This week 178

    No change in BF caliper reading.

    Had a hardcore week. HIIT everday excpet for Saturday. While posing yesterday I swear it felt like my hamstrings were going to rip in two. But tonight it was right back on the bike. I am officially in noticably better condtion than I was in June at the Show-Me Naturals.

    Even though stats didn't change much, I think the pics show improvement. Here they are. I compressed them with a different program this week, so I have no idea as to their quality. If I don't like them I'll post them at larger sizes.





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    Ok, those look way too compressed. I'll see what I can do to up load some higher quality shots. Gotta understand, I'm on dial up and it usually takes me hours to up load 9 pics and this took like 2 minutes.
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    Extremely lean bro, and you can really see the mass you put on, I see some serious mass added to shoulders, chest, arms and legs. Very good!

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    Originally Posted by ChokeOnStrength View Post
    Extremely lean bro, and you can really see the mass you put on, I see some serious mass added to shoulders, chest, arms and legs. Very good!

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    COS, thanks man. One day I'll get there. I plan on being onstage in my 60's. That way I'll have been training for 30 years. lol The goal right now is extreme conditioning, then add mass and work on symmetry improving every year. I know that my lats will join my legs as the 2 top priorities this offseason.

    First things first though, Time to get STRIATED!!!

    As for you keep doing what you're doing. You were smart and started young. The sky's the limit. Stay focused and attack the Lean Mass this week. Let's both look like superheros, and not the one's on Stan Lee's reality show.
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    Your really leaning out Bill,

    Those back shots are sick, your rockin the Christmas tree and all...

    I hope I see the same amount of success from my lean mass phase...

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    Originally Posted by Str8Focus View Post
    Your really leaning out Bill,

    Those back shots are sick, your rockin the Christmas tree and all...

    I hope I see the same amount of success from my lean mass phase...

    You got this Bill!!!
    Good to see you back Focus. This is just the start.

    When you're work load lightens up, post some progress from your Lean Mass. I want to see how you're doing.
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    Bill,
    Holy Crap I have been lurking these boards the past week, but I have not clicked on your contest link until well right now and all I can say is this lst week was the biggest change I have scene out of you, your back double bi is nothing less of sharp,and your legs from the back look great, abs also tightened up a ton, I can honestly say now your are a head of the game for sure, all there is to do now is keep pumping, keep biking, and all your gonna have to do is coast right in. Nice Job.


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    Thanks, Andro. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to do the Gateway Naturals. As recently as last January I had used a very popular estrogen blocker which I did not know was banned by the NANBF, one of two organizations which bans it. The other natural orgs just say to beware using it as it could result in a false positive thus disqualifying the athlete. I really wanted to do this show. I have been communicating with Shawna Meyer, the promoter. She is a great lady and I trust will run an awesome show. There is still a chance I might be in the crowd though. If I make it there I'll be looking for you. It would be great to meet.

    If you don't see me there, drive into the city after the show and go to the City Diner on South Grand. I'll be there after 11pm. I will be happy to buy you your post contest meal. We have HUGE pancakes and pastas. I'll also serve you up that glass of Xtend I promised.

    Now my sights are set on Nov. 17th, the OCB Midwest States. Sporto will be there and I will have to get super shredded to make it through my class and hopefully stand next to him for the overall. Gotta set your goals high, or why even set them.
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    Originally Posted by billfinkbiner View Post
    Thanks, Andro. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to do the Gateway Naturals. As recently as last January I had used a very popular estrogen blocker which I did not know was banned by the NANBF, one of two organizations which bans it. The other natural orgs just say to beware using it as it could result in a false positive thus disqualifying the athlete. I really wanted to do this show. I have been communicating with Shawna Meyer, the promoter. She is a great lady and I trust will run an awesome show. There is still a chance I might be in the crowd though. If I make it there I'll be looking for you. It would be great to meet.

    If you don't see me there, drive into the city after the show and go to the City Diner on South Grand. I'll be there after 11pm. I will be happy to buy you your post contest meal. We have HUGE pancakes and pastas. I'll also serve you up that glass of Xtend I promised.

    Now my sights are set on Nov. 17th, the OCB Midwest States. Sporto will be there and I will have to get super shredded to make it through my class and hopefully stand next to him for the overall. Gotta set your goals high, or why even set them.

    I'm excited you decided on this show...we are going to OWN the overall positions and make it incredibly difficult for the judges to make a decision. They'll be talking about this show until next year...

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    Dude your looking lean as hell. I feel you on the offseason leg growth, mine are so behind that I cant stop planning my offseason approach and I havent even done this contest yet. Your gonna do great my man you are a hell of a company rep and a class act, NOW GO KICK ASS!!!
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    You look bigger and leaner this week Bill. Looks like those extra carbs in your refeeds are treating your body good.
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    Thanks, Andro. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to do the Gateway Naturals. As recently as last January I had used a very popular estrogen blocker which I did not know was banned by the NANBF, one of two organizations which bans it. The other natural orgs just say to beware using it as it could result in a false positive thus disqualifying the athlete. I really wanted to do this show. I have been communicating with Shawna Meyer, the promoter. She is a great lady and I trust will run an awesome show. There is still a chance I might be in the crowd though. If I make it there I'll be looking for you. It would be great to meet.

    If you don't see me there, drive into the city after the show and go to the City Diner on South Grand. I'll be there after 11pm. I will be happy to buy you your post contest meal. We have HUGE pancakes and pastas. I'll also serve you up that glass of Xtend I promised.

    Now my sights are set on Nov. 17th, the OCB Midwest States. Sporto will be there and I will have to get super shredded to make it through my class and hopefully stand next to him for the overall. Gotta set your goals high, or why even set them.
    That's too bad about the Gateway Naturals. Now you just have that much more time though to be even better for the OCB Midwest! Good luck!
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    Was hoping to see you compete at the Gateway Bill. Sorry thing's took a wrong turn. There is a distinct difference between being shredded and being sliced. You my friend are without a doubt going to be SLICED !!! A real life anatomy chart!!! Bring it home brother!
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    Originally Posted by billfinkbiner View Post
    Thanks, Andro. Unfortunately I'm not going to be able to do the Gateway Naturals. As recently as last January I had used a very popular estrogen blocker which I did not know was banned by the NANBF, one of two organizations which bans it. The other natural orgs just say to beware using it as it could result in a false positive thus disqualifying the athlete. I really wanted to do this show. I have been communicating with Shawna Meyer, the promoter. She is a great lady and I trust will run an awesome show. There is still a chance I might be in the crowd though. If I make it there I'll be looking for you. It would be great to meet.

    If you don't see me there, drive into the city after the show and go to the City Diner on South Grand. I'll be there after 11pm. I will be happy to buy you your post contest meal. We have HUGE pancakes and pastas. I'll also serve you up that glass of Xtend I promised.

    Now my sights are set on Nov. 17th, the OCB Midwest States. Sporto will be there and I will have to get super shredded to make it through my class and hopefully stand next to him for the overall. Gotta set your goals high, or why even set them.

    Man Bill that sucks bro, i am so sorry to hear that. i can't even imagine how bad that must've made you feel. I was really hoping to meet you too. I thank you for the post contest offer and i may take you up on it. it all depends on my family though (they are my ride). but i'm sure i could've sat there and we could've talked bodybuilding for hours, and maybe we still can. thanks for the offer, maybe i'll get to take you up on it. but like everybody else has said, you will just be that much better at the Nov show. i'll be keeping up on ya through your journal. SHREDDED TIME
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    Originally Posted by Sporto1633 View Post
    I'm excited you decided on this show...we are going to OWN the overall positions and make it incredibly difficult for the judges to make a decision. They'll be talking about this show until next year...

    Sporto
    I'll be a middleweight. Usually one of the tougher classes, not that any class will be easy at this level and show. Let's just get some EXTREME conditioning and have the judges keep us out there forever to make the decision.

    Originally Posted by TCannon View Post
    Dude your looking lean as hell. I feel you on the offseason leg growth, mine are so behind that I cant stop planning my offseason approach and I havent even done this contest yet. Your gonna do great my man you are a hell of a company rep and a class act, NOW GO KICK ASS!!!
    Thanks, T. You are going to kill down there in H-Town. You're dialing in well and still HUGE. Once the diet is over you're body is going to GROW. X-Frame!!!

    Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    You look bigger and leaner this week Bill. Looks like those extra carbs in your refeeds are treating your body good.
    I like the larger refeed. Today is refeed day and my chest was still SWOLLEN while training.

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    That's too bad about the Gateway Naturals. Now you just have that much more time though to be even better for the OCB Midwest! Good luck!
    Thanks, Kevin. My split has changed now. I've got high volume legs on Saturday. If you're up for it you are always welcome to train with me. Nobody at my gym will ever do legs with me.

    Originally Posted by semper27 View Post
    Was hoping to see you compete at the Gateway Bill. Sorry thing's took a wrong turn. There is a distinct difference between being shredded and being sliced. You my friend are without a doubt going to be SLICED !!! A real life anatomy chart!!! Bring it home brother!
    It sucks, I used the estrogen blocker before I even new I was going to compete in any org. I was shocked to find out that anything over the counter would be banned.

    Big Nate said you were coming up to watch. I don't know if I'll be able to make it since I'll need to train and eat on Saturday. You guys should come to my work that night and get some hardcore bulking cheat food.

    I was looking forward to seeing you and hearing you in the crowd. I will finally get to meet Layne at the Midwest States though. Your still an inspiration man. Can't wait until this Spring to see version 3.0.


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    Man Bill that sucks bro, i am so sorry to hear that. i can't even imagine how bad that must've made you feel. I was really hoping to meet you too. I thank you for the post contest offer and i may take you up on it. it all depends on my family though (they are my ride). but i'm sure i could've sat there and we could've talked bodybuilding for hours, and maybe we still can. thanks for the offer, maybe i'll get to take you up on it. but like everybody else has said, you will just be that much better at the Nov show. i'll be keeping up on ya through your journal. SHREDDED TIME
    Dude it sucks. I went to the website and saw that it was banned and right then things felt bad. I pride myself on being totally sober and drug free. Go out there and represent. You're looking great and still have time to improve.
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    I just got my new training program from Derek. Tomorrow everything changes. I am chomping at the bit to rock the new Pull/Push Load/Volume program. Since I have more time now, I asked him to design me a program to bring up my lower lats and lat width. I feel this will add to my lines and symmetry. Of course legs are going to be hammered as well. Gotta get that X-FRAME!!!

    But this is what Monday looked like.

    DB Incline Press
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    Flat DB Press
    60x8
    60x6
    50x10

    Incline DB Fly
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    Pushups
    28

    AbBench Crunches
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    My chest was THICK and SWOLLEN. I was surprised since I was pretty flat on the way to the gym. I did this workout in about 25 minutes which definately helps the pump. Still hit some poses between sets.

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    5 minutes warm up 15 sprints at 14, 15 LI at 10
    20 minutes reverse True Strider Eliptcal

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    Bill,
    Holy Crap I have been lurking these boards the past week, but I have not clicked on your contest link until well right now and all I can say is this lst week was the biggest change I have scene out of you, your back double bi is nothing less of sharp,and your legs from the back look great, abs also tightened up a ton, I can honestly say now your are a head of the game for sure, all there is to do now is keep pumping, keep biking, and all your gonna have to do is coast right in. Nice Job.


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    Thanks, Joe. I've got extra time now which means I've got to get EXTREME CONDITIONING!!! Walking anatomy chart time.

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    Your midsection is something else! Efforts must be doubled!
    Efforts will be doubled. Still hitting the HIIT 6 days a week. Started my new program today and am LOVING IT!!! Today was Pull Load Day, or as I like to call it

    THE TRIUMPHANT RETURN OF DEADLIFTS

    I'll post a full recap later, but I am still psyched from training. The focus is on lat width and lower lat devlopement/separation. I need to improve that line.
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    I just got my new training program from Derek. Tomorrow everything changes. I am chomping at the bit to rock the new Pull/Push Load/Volume program. Since I have more time now, I asked him to design me a program to bring up my lower lats and lat width. I feel this will add to my lines and symmetry. Of course legs are going to be hammered as well. Gotta get that X-FRAME!!!
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    Thanks, Kevin. My split has changed now. I've got high volume legs on Saturday. If you're up for it you are always welcome to train with me. Nobody at my gym will ever do legs with me.
    I'll check my schedule, but yeah, I'm willing to give the high volume leg training a try
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    looking good bill....you will for sure rock the house.
    hey man i know we have busy schedules but if you would wanna train one day let me know.
    Thanks, man. Saturday is probably the only day you'd be able to make it into the city, can't take my g-fab car out to the county. Let me know if your up for some hardcore leg work.

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    Get that X-frame man! Gotta love when you get that new training game plan. It can give you new life both mentally and physically! Go get it!
    I'm just glad that there's a show that I can do after dieting only to find out I wasn't eligible for the local NANBF show. I was aiming to be ready in 3 weeks. Now I've got 8 so conditioning will be EXTREME and I also have a chance to refine my shape.

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    I'll check my schedule, but yeah, I'm willing to give the high volume leg training a try
    Get ready, this is going to be sick. I'm sure you can handle it though. Now that I'm 8 weeks out we're a lot closer on each others Cut Diet timeline.

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    Thanks, Joe. I've got extra time now which means I've got to get EXTREME CONDITIONING!!! Walking anatomy chart time.



    Efforts will be doubled. Still hitting the HIIT 6 days a week. Started my new program today and am LOVING IT!!! Today was Pull Load Day, or as I like to call it

    THE TRIUMPHANT RETURN OF DEADLIFTS

    I'll post a full recap later, but I am still psyched from training. The focus is on lat width and lower lat devlopement/separation. I need to improve that line.
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    GOD BLESS DEADLIFTS!!!

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    Here's Tuesday's recap aka

    THE TRIUMPHANT RETURN OF DEADLIFTS

    Pull Load Day

    Deadlifts
    135x10 warm up
    225x10 warm up
    3x275x8
    These felt F'N GREAT!!! Deads give me a full body pump. I didn't know how my body would react due to the hernias, but they were fine. I will definately be going heavier next Monday which will be my Pull Load day.

    Wide Grip Pullups
    8
    +10x8
    +10x7

    Bent Over Rows
    3x185x8
    Form on these was exceptional today. I really felt it in my lower lats

    BB Shrugs
    275x6
    275x5
    275x5
    225x10
    Even though I use straps, the grip on my left hand kept giving out; weird and frustrating.

    BB Curls
    3x80x8
    Again great form today.

    Posing: 2 rounds of mandatories

    Cardio
    HIIT
    5 min warm up 15 sprints at 14, 15 LI at 10
    30 mins reverse True Strider Eliptical.

    PM Cardio
    40 mins 9 incline speed 3 on treadmill

    Today's lifting had me looking JACKED!!! Legs are slicing up and vascularity is getting more pronounced on upper body and qauds. Lower legs and calves are thick with veins.

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    1 scoop Glutaform
    1 scoop Beta-Alanine
    2 Cissus
    2 Anagen/2 Fenotest
    4 Alcalean
    4 Yohimbine HCL
    2g Vitamin C
    50mg Zinc

    Pre Workout
    2 scoops VasoCharge
    2 Scoops Xtend

    Workout Nutrition
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    1 scoop Primal EAA

    Pre Cardio
    4 Alcalean
    3 Dialene4
    2g Vitamin C

    Post Workout
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    1 Scoop Primal EAA
    1 Scoop Glutaform
    1 scoop Creaform
    2 scoops Beta-Alanine
    2 Anagen/2 Fenotest

    Pre PM Cardio
    3 Dialene4
    4 Alcalean
    4 Yohimbine HCL
    2 scoops VasoCharge

    PM Cardio
    4 scoops Xtend
    1 scoop Primal EAA

    Meals 1,3,5
    1 Sesamin
    2 Fish oil

    Meals 2,4,6
    2 Max CLA

    Meal 4
    2 Anagen/2 Fenotest

    Pre Bed Cocktail
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    2 Cissus
    3 ZMA
    2 Anagen/2 Fenotest
    2g Vitamin C

    Meal 1
    9 eggwhites
    1 whole egg
    3oz Tilapia
    2oz Avacado
    1 1/3cups spinach
    6.5oz Grapefruit

    Meal 2
    14 eggwhites
    1 1/3cups spinach
    2tblsp PB

    Meal 3
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    12oz Asparagus
    2tblsp PB

    Meal 4
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    2tblsp PB
    6.5oz Grapefruit

    Meal 5
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    1 1/3 cup spinach
    3tsp Enova

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