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    Originally Posted by mmater View Post
    videos look solid. I admire your dedication to getting the form down, especially with technical lifts. I get a little OCD with it myself. Norwichgrad is probably way more versed in the sport than I am, but just from my personal experience, I would say that you need to put a bit more weight on the bar. I tried going light when I was learning the move, problem was it was too light. Sometimes you need that extra weight to help you feel through the movement. If it's too light, you just "muscle" it up there. That looks like exactly what is happening in that last video. You can still be safe with a bit more weight. If that last video was 35lbs, I would easily tell you to go to 55lbs. But, that's Just my .02.
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    The angle is perfect! That was the reason I caught the mistake.

    And I agree with mmater ^^. I was going to suggest upping the weight. You can easily do 110-lb PC right now, but let's go slow first. Try at least 65-lbs next time. And make sure you pause first at the knee, per my previous input. NICE WORK!!
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    Originally Posted by DieselsMom View Post
    Good work at keeping it at 139 - there will be some yo-yos I am sure.

    Love your new workouts but throws me off see the big plates and going holy **** bombs then realize they are not 45#'s haha. Wish I had the guts to try that stuff, not there yet.
    The weight will settle I am sure, then it is just trudging and counting cals. We went to town today and had lunch at CFA and I did not get fries. Boom! Huge for me. So sauces either.
    And yes do not think that that bar is heavy. It is only 35# with the bumpers. Not that cool........yet!

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    Jani,

    The angle is perfect! That was the reason I caught the mistake.

    And I agree with mmater ^^. I was going to suggest upping the weight. You can easily do 110-lb PC right now, but let's go slow first. Try at least 65-lbs next time. And make sure you pause first at the knee, per my previous input. NICE WORK!!
    Okay, will load up with 65# for Friday. Oh this is going to be fun. Elbows up and slow first pull. I am ON IT!!!
    110# sounds like a lot BTW!

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    in for 135 DL rep out tomorrow
    Thanks HIL! I don't think it will be as epic as RB's though. Will get on vid!
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    JJ! I love that you and DM have a little competition going. Of course I will be cheering for both of you like a madwoman from my recliner

    I love that you are working on PCs - I've never done them before (really don't even have the equipment to try them out sadly) but would love to try someday.

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    I don't think it will be as epic as RB's though.
    it will be better!


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    it will be better!


    go JJ!
    RB, who close is the 225 to your body weight?
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    Originally Posted by jjeane View Post

    Okay, will load up with 65# for Friday. Oh this is going to be fun. Elbows up and slow first pull. I am ON IT!!!
    110# sounds like a lot BTW!


    You will get to 110# in no time; just be patient and always aim for perfection.

    This is 15.y.o Emily. One of my lifters. She does 102#here. Watch how she controls the first pull from floor to launch point, then BAM!


    The only difference is she receives the bar in the full squat clean position, you receive yours high (aka power clean).

    To recap:

    a) Deliberately controlled 1st pull, from floor to hip.
    b) Explosive 2nd pull.
    c) Blindingly fast 3rd pull. So fast that the world feels like it stopped.

    Do some pauses at the knee first, as previously mentioned. Then once you are comfortable go ahead and remove the hesitation and complete the first pull.

    Good luck!


    BTW, this is what I mean by pausing at the knee from the floor. (Just ignore the jerks and the fact that I also receive the bar low, like Emily.)

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    Originally Posted by jjeane View Post
    RB, who close is the 225 to your body weight?
    i hover around 220-225



    lowest i been in the last 10 years was 205 with 32" waist

    havent been under 200 since 5th grade
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    Originally Posted by RyouBakua View Post
    i hover around 220-225



    lowest i been in the last 10 years was 205 with 32" waist

    havent been under 200 since 5th grade
    I am 139, so the 225 is about your BW. 135 is just below mine. I am pretty sure I can do 15, but from there don't know. We shall see!!!
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post


    You will get to 110# in no time; just be patient and always aim for perfection.

    This is 15.y.o Emily. One of my lifters. She does 102#here. Watch how she controls the first pull from floor to launch point, then BAM!


    The only difference is she receives the bar in the full squat clean position, you receive yours high (aka power clean).

    To recap:

    a) Deliberately controlled 1st pull, from floor to hip.
    b) Explosive 2nd pull.
    c) Blindingly fast 3rd pull. So fast that the world feels like it stopped.

    Do some pauses at the knee first, as previously mentioned. Then once you are comfortable go ahead and remove the hesitation and complete the first pull.

    Good luck!


    BTW, this is what I mean by pausing at the knee from the floor. (Just ignore the jerks and the fact that I also receive the bar low, like Emily.)

    Oh I missed this Joel!! Thank you, will watch them a few times before I leave in the am! I am excited!
    When it gets heavier, will I catch it lower?
    BTW, you make it look too easy!
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    Originally Posted by jjeane View Post
    Oh I missed this Joel!! Thank you, will watch them a few times before I leave in the am! I am excited!
    When it gets heavier, will I catch it lower?
    No ma'am. Catching it lower requires a different level of skill set, namely flexibility and the ability to do ATG front squats. Keep catching the bar with your legs above parallel for now.
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    Cool, thanks again Joel!!
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    Happy Friday everyone!!
    Weight this am 139. Hoping for something over the weekend.
    I am beat. I mean beat. Please see workout below. I did 135 for AMRAP. Not a good as RB since I used mix grips and I found out that that vid was not his first set. Oh well.
    Please be nice on the PC vids. I took them at the end of the workout. All 4 are at 65#. pretty good weight. Not too easy not too hard.

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    5x95
    2x115
    5x5x122

    Chins
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    OHP
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    5x55
    3x5x57

    DL
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    PC from Knees
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    PC from floor



    3x5x65

    That is all I had. My arms are still twitching.
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    Wow - that looks like was a great workout no wonder your arms are twitching. Awesome job.

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    Thanks Lori and DM!! Wishing I could take a nap, but I took the kids to the park. I am so excited about pizza tonight. I am starving!!
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    Jani,

    GREAT WORK! I think you are ready for the next level of training. The question is are you ready for the next evolution?

    When we want to learn something new – riding a bike, swimming, cooking, driving, lifting, etc… - we start off with a huge task ahead of us. And as we try to learn, we face many problems. Big problems. And in order to get good at that ‘something’ we want to learn, one of the things we do is solve the big problems and hopefully make them smaller problems, and eventually make the problems go away . Another thing we do to get good at something is practice…and practice… and practice some more.

    Some activities require zero skills, like boiling pot of water. Some activities require a much higher level of skills, like flying a remote control toy helicopter. Olympic Weightlifting is one of those activities that require skills, and commitment, and lots of practice.. The sport also requires courage…Jumping under a heavy dynamic load is scary.

    A good analogy I use is the “crawl, walk, run method.” First we learn how to crawl, then we have to learn how to walk if we ever expect to run. What’s great about our journey to continuous improvement is that as we get good at something, we will always find something else to improve upon. Such is life. Weightlifting is a microcosm of real life. There is always room for improvement as we get better at it.

    You have met the expectations of this ‘crawl phase.’ Congratulations. Let me know if you are ready to start the ‘walk phase’ and I’d be glad to continue with your journey.

    The reason for this lengthy post is I don’t want you to think I’m nitpicky, because I will appear as one if you expect to keep progressing.

    Excellent progress you’ve made!! Bodyweight clean and jerk in a year! You think I’m kidding?
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    Jani,

    GREAT WORK! I think you are ready for the next level of training. The question is are you ready for the next evolution?

    When we want to learn something new – riding a bike, swimming, cooking, driving, lifting, etc… - we start off with a huge task ahead of us. And as we try to learn, we face many problems. Big problems. And in order to get good at that ‘something’ we want to learn, one of the things we do is solve the big problems and hopefully make them smaller problems, and eventually make the problems go away . Another thing we do to get good at something is practice…and practice… and practice some more.

    Some activities require zero skills, like boiling pot of water. Some activities require a much higher level of skills, like flying a remote control toy helicopter. Olympic Weightlifting is one of those activities that require skills, and commitment, and lots of practice.. The sport also requires courage…Jumping under a heavy dynamic load is scary.

    A good analogy I use is the “crawl, walk, run method.” First we learn how to crawl, then we have to learn how to walk if we ever expect to run. What’s great about our journey to continuous improvement is that as we get good at something, we will always find something else to improve upon. Such is life. Weightlifting is a microcosm of real life. There is always room for improvement as we get better at it.

    You have met the expectations of this ‘crawl phase.’ Congratulations. Let me know if you are ready to start the ‘walk phase’ and I’d be glad to continue with your journey.

    The reason for this lengthy post is I don’t want you to think I’m nitpicky, because I will appear as one if you expect to keep progressing.

    Excellent progress you’ve made!! Bodyweight clean and jerk in a year! You think I’m kidding?
    Wow. For real? Yes, I want to run. I really enjoy it. Even after I was sucking wind on the deads today, I kept thinking as soon as I get my wind back I can do the PC drills. I look forward to them.
    So yes, I would love to continue the journey.
    How do I thank and repay you Joel?
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    Wow. For real? Yes, I want to run. I really enjoy it. Even after I was sucking wind on the deads today, I kept thinking as soon as I get my wind back I can do the PC drills. I look forward to them.
    So yes, I would love to continue the journey.
    How do I thank and repay you Joel?
    Great. I will give more detail this weekend. I will be leaving work soon.

    I don't expect anything from anybody. Karma usually takes good care of me. That's how the universe works.

    BTW, would you have any objections if you don't wear gloves when Olying?
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    Great. I will give more detail this weekend. I will be leaving work soon.

    I don't expect anything from anybody. Karma usually takes good care of me. That's how the universe works.

    BTW, would you have any objections if you don't wear gloves when Olying?
    That is so awesome of you Joel!!
    No I don't mind thanking off the gloves. I usually do I just forgot today!!
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    Wow, so much going on here! I wish I could see your vids but the phone did doesn't show them. But I gather from what Joel and everyone else is saying you are progressing nicely. Very happy for you and congrats on the 139 too. I remember being very happy to leave the 140's last yr too
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    Originally Posted by cmg1976 View Post
    Wow, so much going on here! I wish I could see your vids but the phone did doesn't show them. But I gather from what Joel and everyone else is saying you are progressing nicely. Very happy for you and congrats on the 139 too. I remember being very happy to leave the 140's last yr too
    I will be interested to see what you think of the vids. I don't want to see the 140 again, like ever. But it is hard lifting hard and heavy and cutting.
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    I am beat. I mean beat. Please see workout below. I did 135 for AMRAP. Not a good as RB since I used mix grips and I found out that that vid was not his first set. Oh well.
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    you did really great here! looked super tough

    way to push through it!

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    Originally Posted by RyouBakua View Post
    you did really great here! looked super tough

    way to push through it!

    (and i used mix grip too)

    definitely deserve your warrior pizza meal



    sorry for late response. had to go find food
    It was tough and I think if I had reset my grip I would have either
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    b. never gotten the thing back up!

    No big deal, how was your food? We even had salad with the pizza. Gotta get them greens!
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    It was tough and I think if I had reset my grip I would have either
    a. been able to do maybe 2 more or
    b. never gotten the thing back up!

    No big deal, how was your food? We even had salad with the pizza. Gotta get them greens!
    still did good



    i had leftover corned beef and cabbage with some deli meat

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    still did good



    i had leftover corned beef and cabbage with some deli meat

    (i had pizza on tuesday)
    Thanks RB!
    I love cabbage, with hot sauce!
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    man, lots of good stuff going on in here. Love your enthusiasm for the oly lifting. I will have to live vicariously through you for the next few weeks until I can devote more time to it (instead of running for a PT test, blah). Anywho, Joel sounds like (looks like) he knows what he is doing. I notice he didn't mention it in his lengthy post, and forgive me if I am overstepping my bounds, but even that 65 looked easy. You can tell you are still "muscling it up." I say this, because you look like me, and my coach gets on my butt about it all the time. It is such a unique skill set, and I am sure, that is why you - like me - are soo infatuated with the sport. I'm excited to follow along with you in this. Great work.
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