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    Should I bother with shoulder day?

    So I was just wondering, pretty new to working out only about a month, but I have a lot of time now and I'm able to go to the gym about 4 times a week, so I was thinking of now having a shoulder day. The only thing is I don't really get the benefits of doing shoulder exercises, like don't get me wrong I can feel it work when I'm working out, but does it help with my strength at all, or is it just for aesthetics?
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    Yes definetly a must to give the complex structure of the body or your going to look like a stick
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    Originally Posted by UntouchableLeb View Post
    Yes definetly a must to give the complex structure of the body or your going to look like a stick
    Yes I realise this, but I mean for strength in the real world, like self defence or throwing or any other things you need in sport... does it help?
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    shoulders tend to fit in with biceps triceps and etc required in most excericise do it and it will be easier as well its also usefull in bodybuilding rep me if you get a chance left side reputation bar approve
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    Originally Posted by Siy View Post
    Yes I realise this, but I mean for strength in the real world, like self defence or throwing or any other things you need in sport... does it help?
    Are you lifting weights for defense? Lol

    Look at boxers shoulders.
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    Shoulders are my favorite muscle group.



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    azza its liftandsleep whats up bro rep me i rep back
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    Originally Posted by Azza84 View Post
    Are you lifting weights for defense? Lol
    Well TBH I didn't want to sound like a ******* saying I'm lifting weights so I can knock people out easier. To answer your question no, but if someone messes with me or is a smartass I want to be able to deck them.
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    I love shoulders day, one of my favorites.
    To answer your questions:

    1. Definitely work out your shoulders.
    2. Big and wide shoulders can block a punch and lower the damage dealt, just look at any type of fighter.
    3. Shoulders are one of the main muscles used when throwing.
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    pretty sure you can throw a harder punch with bigger shoulders m8
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    Originally Posted by Siy View Post
    Well TBH I didn't want to sound like a ******* saying I'm lifting weights so I can knock people out easier. To answer your question no, but if someone messes with me or is a smartass I want to be able to deck them.
    Take up martial arts brah. Weight lifting won't make u better at decking people.
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    You don't need a shoulder day. Just put some OH presses and lat raises in on either Chest or Back day.

    Having an arm day is more beneficial IMO, if you were gonna pick one
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    Originally Posted by Siy View Post
    So I was just wondering, pretty new to working out only about a month, but I have a lot of time now and I'm able to go to the gym about 4 times a week, so I was thinking of now having a shoulder day. The only thing is I don't really get the benefits of doing shoulder exercises, like don't get me wrong I can feel it work when I'm working out, but does it help with my strength at all, or is it just for aesthetics?
    naahhh who even needs shoulders.
    lol.
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    brb forearms wider than shoulders
    brb becoming trianglebrah
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    Originally Posted by Azza84 View Post
    Take up martial arts brah. Weight lifting won't make u better at decking people.

    Once your big people dont fck with you..
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    If you don't do shoulders, you'll look retarded, and I'm pretty sure it could lead to problems when you do things like Bench Press. You can't ask whether there is any benefit of doing shoulders. They'll get bigger and stronger, which will help you in one way or another, even if it is just looking good compared to the rest of your body.
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    Originally Posted by 2HeadedEagle View Post
    If you don't do shoulders, you'll look retarded, and I'm pretty sure it could lead to problems when you do things like Bench Press. You can't ask whether there is any benefit of doing shoulders. They'll get bigger and stronger, which will help you in one way or another, even if it is just looking good compared to the rest of your body.
    Not having a shoulder day =/= not doing shoulders
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    Big thick shoulders can make puny guys look huge in jackets
    With 4 days you can hit every muscle group easily
    Day 1: Chest/Triceps
    Day 2: Back/Biceps
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: Shoulders.

    if you don't have a shoulder day what are you going to work out?
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    Personally, I didn't train shoulders for a long time. Definitely regret it now. My bench is lagging because of it and my OHP is weak as **** w/ non-existent rear delts.
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    Originally Posted by Siy View Post
    Yes I realise this, but I mean for strength in the real world, like self defence or throwing or any other things you need in sport... does it help?
    Obviously lmao. there's a reason why the people with the naturally wider shoulder are naturally stronger
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    Originally Posted by MrWaddles View Post
    Big thick shoulders can make puny guys look huge in jackets
    With 4 days you can hit every muscle group easily
    Day 1: Chest/Triceps
    Day 2: Back/Biceps
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: Shoulders.

    if you don't have a shoulder day what are you going to work out?
    this. put an off day between back and legs, and turn shoulder day into shoulders and arms.
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    Originally Posted by AesthetiKunt View Post
    this. put an off day between back and legs, and turn shoulder day into shoulders and arms.
    do not forget to work your forearms! If you get big shoulders nice arms and small forearms, it looks so wrong and people will laugh at you.
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    Originally Posted by Siy View Post
    So I was just wondering, pretty new to working out only about a month, but I have a lot of time now and I'm able to go to the gym about 4 times a week, so I was thinking of now having a shoulder day. The only thing is I don't really get the benefits of doing shoulder exercises, like don't get me wrong I can feel it work when I'm working out, but does it help with my strength at all, or is it just for aesthetics?
    Wow... Shoulders help bench press stabilizing the weight it's like the bread and butter for all your lifts if u fuuck them up don't plan on going to the gym bc they play a vital role in compound movements
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    why train at all...
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    Well TBH I didn't want to sound like a ******* saying I'm lifting weights so I can knock people out easier. To answer your question no, but if someone messes with me or is a smartass I want to be able to deck them.
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    Originally Posted by Siy View Post
    Well TBH I didn't want to sound like a ******* saying I'm lifting weights so I can knock people out easier. To answer your question no, but if someone messes with me or is a smartass I want to be able to deck them.
    Your def from Aus prob Syd 'deck'
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    Ill apologize to the misc for you OP. miscers this is the typical Australian western suburb child. & yes I'm 15 as well but defiantly do not talk like this. Sorry OP you shouldn't be training just to knock out people. Or maybe you got bashed by other guys. Do some boxing.
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    If you want to train to knock someone out quick, bodybuilding/powerlifting is not your main concern. The best way to improve your punching power is by punching more. Training your shoulders will make your progress faster but punching a heavy bag should be the staple of your workout. In terms of functional strength, shoulders, forearms, legs and back (especially traps and lower back) are crucial, then you have chest, and far out the biceps and triceps. Having stronger forearms, shoulders, back and legs are what's required to lend a perfect hit, because you really don't punch using your arm, your arm is just like a whip, the power comes from legs, goes up to the back, then to the shoulders, with your forearms being firmly pressed before impact. Shoulders are also the muscle that connects your arms to your torso, they are practically used in every workout you do to stabilize the weight as you lift it, being on back or chest lifts... Weak shoulders are a certain way to get an injury... Also, when it concerns aesthetics... Although most would say that chest and bis are the fanciest muscles, the minority that considers forearms, traps, shoulders and triceps to be more pleasing seem to be more correct.

    Summary :

    - To punch harder, punch more on a heavy back, weight training should only assist your progression
    - Shoulders are the link between your torso and arms, they are worked every session, not training them accordingly is a route to eminent injury.
    - Shoulders, legs, forearms, and back are curcial for power and functional strength.

    Putting too much mass on your biceps and triceps can be counter-productive because in terms of martial arts, speed is best.
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    Once your big people dont fck with you..
    Pretty much this.
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    Once your big pussies and ***gots dont fck with you..
    Fixed.
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