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    Exclamation MISC weed smokers - enjoy your Mary Jane - Good Night Sweet IQ (study)

    First off, the study: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20...20109.abstract

    The purpose of the present study was to test the association between persistent cannabis use and neuropsychological decline and determine whether decline is concentrated among adolescent-onset cannabis users.

    There haven't been many (any?) studies on long-term effect and this is one of the first ones. This one showed that there is decline in neurophysiological performance. Direct link between use and decline rate. The more you smoke, the dumber you get.

    Cliffs:
    - smoking weed makes you literally dumber

    inb4 30 pages of potheads justifying it nonetheless

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    No... and from the abstract of that study, it's only testing those who start smoking at adolescence... and then I don't know what they mean by "heavy" use.

    You're the one who is drawing conclusions that the scientists didn't reach, i.e. The more you smoke the dumber you get. That conclusion is only correlative with the adolescent onset of heavy use.

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    In my personal experience with friends who smoke everyday i think this is somewhat accurate, my friend used to get A's and ever since he started smoking weed everyday his grades dropped and he just seemed more stupid tbh, oh he's also now on anti-depressants & anti-psychotics.

    Also im not some anti-drug guy, i actually indulge in abit of substance abuse, just dont smoke the maryjane.
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    I got nothing against the pots what so ever but I just choose not to smoke them.

    That being said I know a ton of intelligent mothaphuckas that smoke those marijuanas, and also some dummies. Just like the people i know who don't indulge in marijuanas.

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    If you're over 18 and smoke weed you are a ****ing loser. You're pathetic. This is the most useless substance on planet earth and you sit on your worthless ass everyday and smoke it. Pathetic.

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    no ****? anyone thats ever smoked or been a pot head (me) would know this is fact. haven't smoked pot in 4 years.

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    Originally Posted by nervy View Post
    If you're over 18 and smoke weed you are a ****ing loser. You're pathetic. This is the most useless substance on planet earth and you sit on your worthless ass everyday and smoke it. Pathetic.

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    Originally Posted by nervy View Post
    If you're over 18 and smoke weed you are a ****ing loser. You're pathetic. This is the most useless substance on planet earth and you sit on your worthless ass everyday and smoke it. Pathetic.
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    wutlol?


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    so 90% of holland is becoming more stupid?

    thanks op

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    I actually agree. When I was a kid I was in all accelerated classes and in the gifted and talented program. Then when I was 13 I started smoking pot...a LOT....for roughly 10 years. Not only is my ability to retain information chitty, my mind just seems to work slower.

    Moral? Don't smoke a ton of pot in your teen years.
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    did you heavy alcohol use can fuk up your liver? and cigarettes give you cancer? no sh*t sherlock weed has adverse side effects just dont be a fukin stoner wake n bakin all day and you'll be fine jesus

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    Originally Posted by lincolnmkv View Post
    No... and from the abstract of that study, it's only testing those who start smoking at adolescence... and then I don't know what they mean by "heavy" use.

    You're the one who is drawing conclusions that the scientists didn't reach, i.e. The more you smoke the dumber you get. That conclusion is only correlative with the adolescent onset of heavy use.

    this


    OP get over it

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    You mad that I live a succcessful life, go to college full time, oh an also own myown business? Been smoking for 4 years and not a difference OP.

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    Originally Posted by Janzza View Post
    so 90% of holland is becoming more stupid?

    thanks op
    90% of Holland is stupid to begin with, bro.

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    Originally Posted by lincolnmkv View Post
    No... and from the abstract of that study, it's only testing those who start smoking at adolescence... and then I don't know what they mean by "heavy" use.
    When did I say anything about kids smoking? This is not TeenMISC, fyi.

    If you want to refute something I said, then do it with something I actually said, please.

    They tested for cannabis starting at 18 y/o, but they performed neurophysiological tests starting with age 13, so - and they say they do - given adjustments for years of education, they can very well show the effect.

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    Originally Posted by nervy View Post
    If you're over 18 and smoke weed you are a ****ing loser. You're pathetic. This is the most useless substance on planet earth and you sit on your worthless ass everyday and smoke it. Pathetic.
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    Seen it happen to people I know. Cannabis is one of the most dangerous drugs out there (srs). People don't think it's dangerous and it deystroys peoples motivation.

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    Originally Posted by lincolnmkv View Post
    No... [b]and from the abstract of that study, it's only testing those who start smoking at adolescence[b]... and then I don't know what they mean by "heavy" use.

    You're the one who is drawing conclusions that the scientists didn't reach, i.e. The more you smoke the dumber you get. That conclusion is only correlative with the adolescent onset of heavy use.
    That's probably the largest crowd.
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    I don't understand why so many people defend weed......your lives are so ****ty that you need to alter your mind state every day and you defend it to the death. It's a ****ing drug, and there ARE adverse affects. Every person I know that smokes regularly is a waste of life who's going nowhere.

    Enjoy your controlled substances. Meanwhile us folks that stay sober will run the world for your pathetic asses.
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    it makes me stupid when i am high yes i agree.


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    Did the people who they tested stop smoking for a few weeks (even a month or two) before being tested?

    I've noticed the "foggy brain" feeling begins to subside even after a few days of being clean. I bet after a few weeks I'd be back at 100% mental clarity
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    Originally Posted by HeliBrah View Post
    When did I say anything about kids smoking? This is not TeenMISC, fyi.

    If you want to refute something I said, then do it with something I actually said, please.

    They tested for cannabis starting at 18 y/o, but they performed neurophysiological tests starting with age 13, so - and they say they do - given adjustments for years of education, they can very well show the effect.
    It's not what you said - it's what you're inferring from what wasn't said.

    They're showing cognitive decline from heavy use with onset during adolescence. Not with respect to heavy use, say, starting in college.

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    so what your saying is it is safe not in heavy doses?

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    Originally Posted by CalmBrah View Post
    You mad that I live a succcessful life, go to college full time, oh an also own myown business? Been smoking for 4 years and not a difference OP.
    You mad this is the internet and you can say whatever the **** you want? lol

    yeah prove to me that you're doing GOOD in college with a legit degree from a legit school, show me proof you own a business (lol) and then I'll be quiet.
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    Originally Posted by lincolnmkv View Post
    It's not what you said - it's what you're inferring from what wasn't said.

    They're showing cognitive decline from heavy use with onset during adolescence. Not with respect to heavy use, say, starting in college.
    like it will make a difference if you're 15 or 21??? lol. The brain is delicate at any age. Find a better argument
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    Originally Posted by nervy View Post
    90% of Holland is stupid to begin with, bro.
    Explains why our average IQ is so much higher than in the US.

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    Originally Posted by CalmBrah View Post
    You mad that I live a succcessful life, go to college full time, oh an also own myown business? Been smoking for 4 years and not a difference OP.
    You mad that my girlfriend's dad is richer then you, more powerful then you, didn't go to college, smokes weed and beats the women in his family? Been smoking weed his whole life and he puts his hands on his loved ones and sometimes sends them to the hospital with injuries. And yes, this is srs.
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    Didnt read the study or any posts but in my honest opinion from personal experience, I would agree with you OP. I am literally the only in a my group of friends who doesn't smoke weed (used to in highschool). I can confidently say that all those who do around me do seem to have lower commonsense. Not saying there stupid by any means, most of my friends are from law school, a couple a doing PHD's, engineering things like that. Just when it comes to every day things they seem to be a bit slower at understanding consequences and are awful at making plans very unorganized in general. On the other hand you take Joe Rogan as a prime example of how you can smoke weed and not be brain dead.

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