"new" craze vs "old" craze

[Hockeyaus33]

Has anyone out there taken craze since it first came out? Have you noticed a difference between craze around when it first came out and now? I bought my first tub of craze around april. I loved it so much that I bought 10 tubs of it about a week later, anticpating that it might possibly be pulled off shelves due to the lawsuit. Since only grape flavor was out, I had 11 tubs of grape only. So about a month ago I decided to get the lemonade flavor just so I could have some variation in flavor. I switch back and forth beween grape and lemonade day to day, while taking it the same way, at the same time, with the same supplements and I can safely conclude that the "old" grape gives that amazing euphoria that craze was/is known for. The lemonade on the other hand is wayyyy weaker, and it is obvious. My question, has anyone else out there noticed this, can any ds reps explain why it might be occuring?

[BenW22]

TBH, I've kinda noticed the same thing, but I thought it was my mind just playing tricks on me.

[_Smitty_]

Haven't noticed... Just a different flavor; effects are the same to me, and I always have a tub of each flavor at the ready at the same time.

[Hockeyaus33]

TBH, I've kinda noticed the same thing, but I thought it was my mind just playing tricks on me.

Yes I am 100% positive, absolutely certain there is a difference. No mind tricks at all, in fact I thought the same way because I would take grape one day, feel amazing. Then I would do lemonade and not feel it at all and I just thought I was getting tolerant to craze at. 1 scoop, until it finaly occured to me it was peculiarly the "newly bought" craze that was weak and the old grape was bringing the same amazing feeling time and time again.

[koard31]

I've not noticed any differences other than the flavor. Still powers me through the afternoons.

[BloodType3R]

TBH, I've kinda noticed the same thing, but I thought it was my mind just playing tricks on me.

^ This.

One thing is for sure though, the lemonade leaves my lips chapped as hell if I don't literally poar it down my throught.
I liked the grape flavor fine to start so, I'm sticking to that one.

[JamesGatz83]

I have noticed a slight difference as well. Grape seems to offer more stimulation.

[Hockeyaus33]

Haven't noticed... Just a different flavor; effects are the same to me, and I always have a tub of each flavor at the ready at the same time.

That's great but are these two tubs u are contrasting recently bought tubs? The distinction is not between flavors or between two newly bought tubs, I'm comparing tubs bought towards the beginning of the year and tubs bought recently.

[stewseo]

Did you buy your tub off of bb.com?

[_Smitty_]

That's great but are these two tubs u are contrasting recently bought tubs? The distinction is not between flavors or between two newly bought tubs, I'm comparing tubs bought towards the beginning of the year and tubs bought recently.

All my grape tubs were bought when it was first released, before any of that drama surfaced... though I'm down to my last one.

[Hockeyaus33]

Did you buy your tub off of bb.com?

Yes the "new" tub I'm reffering to was off of bb com. The "old" grape tubs I'm reffering to were all bought from a different site but all 10 from that same site. Why is there something I'm unaware of?

[ZeroInitiativE]

I feel the same way OP. When I first got craze (the grape version), the focus and euphoria feeling was amazing. Then once the new flavor came out, I didn't feel all that much from it...just thought maybe my body developed a tolerance to it. I don't even get the dry mouth anymore.

[jay8899]

All my grape tubs were bought when it was first released, before any of that drama surfaced... though I'm down to my last one.

Yup,check ingredients in grape and all the others,they should be diff,a few ppl @ the store where i get my supps from told me...

[stewseo]

Exact same results for me. Tubs of grape working great at 1 scoop. Bought the new flavor last month of bb.com, tried 1, 1.5, 2, 2, 2 scoops and felt nothing. Bought lemonade off a different site, and have same results as old grape. Maybe a bad batch of lemonade from bb.com?

[kevin1st]

to me, the newer grape doesn't taste as medicine-y/tussin-ish as the very first tubs i got when it released. i use a larger amount of the newer batch to get the same effect as the original tubs and just chalked that up to tolerance. i really like the taste of the berry lemonade flavor.

[TimMason91]

haven't really noticed a difference in effects. Then again I wasn't expecting a difference.

What I like to do is take 1 scoop of lemonade flavor 45 minutes before my workout, then half a scoop of grape flavor 10 mins before my workout. It kicks ass, try it!

[Hockeyaus33]

Exact same results for me. Tubs of grape working great at 1 scoop. Bought the new flavor last month of bb.com, tried 1, 1.5, 2, 2, 2 scoops and felt nothing. Bought lemonade off a different site, and have same results as old grape. Maybe a bad batch of lemonade from bb.com?

Hey could u pm me the cheapest place to purchase the lemonade flavor. I don't think the site I use carries lemondae. Also, I forgot to mention that its not so much the energy that's lacking with "the new" batch, its the euphoria, the mind enhancment where it makes u feel like ur in a video game that it lacks. Its hard to explain but its very very obvious. My next step is to order a new tub of lemonade from a diff site, and in addition to that a new grape tub. I will compare the new grape, to the new lemonade from non bb com site, and the old grape.

[itzDodge]

gnomes are the only logical explanation

[koard31]

Yup,check ingredients in grape and all the others,they should be diff,a few ppl @ the store where i get my supps from told me...

Sure they did Ron.

[jay8899]

Sure they did Ron.

What,LMAO....i keep see'ing this ron name.... iDk what the **** your talking about..Im jay from Queens and train at force Fitness buddy..... im stating what i was told..im not a supp whore like everyone here,i just stated what i was told,i could give 2 ****s less kiddo

Wait you 6'1" 172LBS....LOL,why i bother to reply...your a no body in the gym,your #'s say it all...LMAo

[Hockeyaus33]

gnomes are the only logical explanation

If I would have taken the old grape craze today instead of the new lemonade, I would probably be inclined to believe this and consider it a possibility.

[koard31]

What,LMAO....i keep see'ing this ron name.... iDk what the **** your talking about..Im jay from Queens and train at force Fitness buddy..... im stating what i was told..im not a supp whore like everyone here,i just stated what i was told,i could give 2 ****s less kiddo

Wait you 6'1" 172LBS....LOL,why i bother to reply...your a no body in the gym,your #'s say it all...LMAo

Uh huh, it's amazing how you develop each personality so vividly. Well done sir.

[itzDodge]

If I would have taken the old grape craze today instead of the new lemonade, I would probably be inclined to believe this and consider it a possibility.

You sure there is no way you're placeboing yourself broski? Not implying anything but I haven't noticed any difference and I've been using it virtually non stop since the release, maybe you just really really like Grape

[jay8899]

If I would have taken the old grape craze today instead of the new lemonade, I would probably be inclined to believe this and consider it a possibility.

well i have the old grape and havent tried anything new craze wise....but the grape i have is some intense stuff man.

[Hockeyaus33]

You sure there is no way you're placeboing yourself broski? Not implying anything but I haven't noticed any difference and I've been using it virtually non stop since the release, maybe you just really really like Grape

Dude I swear its different! But placebo is always a possibility. How could I go about doing a "placebo" test. Capsule both powders, have someone else keep track of which one I take on which days and track the results?

[sdfan13]

This is actually pretty funny cause I feel like i've noticed the same exact thing. I always just wrote it off as my mind playing tricks.

[itzDodge]

Dude I swear its different! But placebo is always a possibility. How could I go about doing a "placebo" test. Capsule both powders, have someone else keep track of which one I take on which days and track the results?

That would certainly work, I'd be trying this myself but I always finish my tubs before buying new ones so no old tubs on hand.

[GetRippedInc]

Exact same results for me. Tubs of grape working great at 1 scoop. Bought the new flavor last month of bb.com, tried 1, 1.5, 2, 2, 2 scoops and felt nothing. Bought lemonade off a different site, and have same results as old grape. Maybe a bad batch of lemonade from bb.com?

Check lot numbers on the bottles and see if they are the same from bb.com and that other sick site.. If everyone checks the batch number maybe its the same batch that its happening with. I personally have used new versions of both and results were exact same as original batch that I still have

[ajerone]

I am not sure about the chronology of events, or if anything has in fact changed, but I have seen both of these profiles for Craze. It remains a favorite of mine and many of my close friends and team mates, regardless.

[Hyperflux]

I am interested to know if there is a difference, because I just bought my first tub of Craze (Berry Lemonade), and frankly it was a let-down compared to what most people have been saying here.