Whats up bros (and ladies). My name is Ross. My training partner and I won the first Bodybuilding.com HRT transformation challenge last year, and had the privilege of working with Tom on the new HRT videos as well as training HRT with him in the gym on multiple occasions. Working with Tom is a great opportunity, and I'm glad to see so many of you are taking advantage of that. This guy knows what he's doing.
As help to the big guy (since there's so many of you), I'm here to help specifically with anyone who is unclear on how to do the HRT technique. Based on Tom's responses to some of your check-ins, it looks like a lot of you are confused as to how the actual HRT method is done.
Here's the deal: I'm here to critique the incorrect form in your training vids. I've posted on some of your threads, but there are a lot of you and its difficult to keep track. If Tom says you're doing the technique wrong, the best thing you could do is post your vids here to me directly, so I can work with you help out. This way I don't miss anyone. However, this is a public thread for anyone confused or doubting their technique.
If you think you may be doing this wrong, or if Tom specifically said you're doing it wrong, you can post your videos and questions here to me and I'll help out individually. Taking the initiative and asking for help is a big part of this contest. We wouldn't have won the partner HRT contest if we weren't doing that.
IMPORTANT NOTE: There are TWO versions of HRT, solo and with a partner. The technique is DIFFERENT for both of these.
Solo HRT is simply 8 regular reps followed immediately by 6 SLOW NEGATIVE REPS (at a 5-second count).
Partner Hellcentrics is 8 regular reps followed by 4 HELLCENTRIC REPS (these are the reps you saw done in the original HRT videos done with Tom and Mike Van Wyck)
We will be filming a very detailed demo training video for you guys. So keep your eyes peeled for that. No fancy music and effects. This will just be a step-by-step explanation of how to do this the right way. Until then, feel free to post your questions and training vids for critique.
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Thread: HRT Technique Assistance
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08-22-2012, 10:17 AM #1
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HRT Technique Assistance
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08-22-2012, 10:31 AM #2
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08-22-2012, 10:34 AM #3
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Rock solid bro. Post any vids or questions you need answered and I'll help out. However, if you don't post a vid and just have a written question, please specify if you are doing SOLO hrt or PARTNER hrt. Because my help will be different based on the different techniques. Here is a picture of us flexing with Tom, in case you needed any motivation (I strongly suggest everyone print this out, and hang it on the ceiling above your beds).
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08-22-2012, 10:03 PM #4
MY vidz for QUADS AND HAMS HRT SOLO
Hopefully this is "perfect form" that way it can be a video for others to see. YOUR RIGHT IT HURT A LOT MORE. My pump was through the roof man.
leg Press ( remember im 5'5 so my legs are short.Also you can see im bottoming out on the stopper and that my full negative is to fast. this was corrected immediately after i was told)
380x8+6
470x8+6 ( my buddy said my negative was to short so i did a redo set)
425x8+6
NO Hack squat---SO Smith Squat
155x8+6
205x8+6
Leg Ext
150x8+6
160x8+6
Deadlift
135x8+6
185x8+6
Seated Leg Curl
50x8+6
60x8+6
Is the HRT SOLO routine different than HRT Partner? Im thinking yes because when i looked at the main forum one of the threads shows the HRT Solo workouts and it has a list of all the workouts. Some workouts like this one i just posted are a lil tweaked. let me knowGoing to HELL and COMING BACK an ANIMAL THREAD>>>>>http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147315213
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08-23-2012, 07:22 AM #5
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Definitley getting better bro! I am noticing some improvement with the form, so here is what I would work on to make it perfect:
Slow down your negatives even more. I counted about a 3.5 second negative on most of them. It should be the full 1...2...3...4...5 on the way down. Have you're partner count out loud if you need to. Slow it down even more and you'll be on your way.
On the leg press, try to take your hands off your knees during the regular reps. It's okay to self-spot on the negative part if you need a boost up, but its best to let the quads work completley by themselves. Remember, we're trying to ISOLATE the muscle group here, not move weight for the hell of it.
The exercise routine for solo IS the same as the partner version. The only difference is the technique. However, the specific exercises and split that is set up in the partner version should be the same as the solo. The only difference is, you're doing 8+6 slow negatives rather than 8+4 hellcentrics with a partner.
One last thing I would adjust is the barbell deadlifts. Deadlifts are a predominantly LOWER BACK exercise. If you want to hit your hamstrings, which you should be doing on leg days, you need to be doing STIFF LEG DEAD LIFTS. The name sounds misleading though, because you're legs won't be completley straight. Tom has a demo vid of him doing HRT Stiff Leg Deads on a smith machine in the video thread.
I'm assuming you are doing those deads because you dont have a way of doing a reverse hack squat. My partner and I had the same issue, so instead of reverse hack, we just did Seated Hamstring Leg Curls (the opposite of the leg extension machine). Be sure to fully contract your hamstrings on the negatives by squeezing the glutes together. Anytime you work your hams, you should be squeezing your ass in order to actually engage the muscle to its full potential. It sounds weird, but try it and youll see why. You may need to lower the weight. Deadlifts are one of the most taxing exercises known to man. I would avoid doing them on leg day if I were you. Try the seated hamstring curls instead.
You're gettin there bro! Keep me posted!Hellcentrics Apprentice
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08-23-2012, 08:31 AM #6
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08-23-2012, 11:04 AM #7
Last edited by bluesurfer_17; 08-23-2012 at 07:22 PM.
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08-23-2012, 07:26 PM #8
week 2 sessshh III
I know on flat bench i messed up on the count, but there was a redemption set due to the fact that im really hard on myself on completing the excercise correctly. i know theres a million types of ways to do workouts, but im super focused on mastering this form that way I can get a move on.Going to HELL and COMING BACK an ANIMAL THREAD>>>>>http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147315213
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08-23-2012, 07:35 PM #9
Also there is a failed Incline set that I failed on the last rep. It was a good push though
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08-24-2012, 07:46 AM #10
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08-25-2012, 09:09 AM #11
Hey I was watching your video, just thought I'd point out that squating on a smith machine is deadly to do... I did it once because it was the only one available and I threw my back out for 1 month... Then I found out why the next day: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/1-ex...ou-should.html
Maybe their is a controlled way of doing it, but it forces you not to keep balance, and bends the back bad (for me at least). Just wanted to toss that tip your way, I wouldn't wish that kind of back pain I had upon anybody, it hurt like hell!
Anywhoo keep it up!TAMING THE BEAST WITHIN!
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08-25-2012, 12:07 PM #12
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Seconded. I typically stay away from Smith Squats. However, I know some guys with massive physiques that do 'em all the time. Personally though, I like the free weight squats even if it means using less weight than a smith squat. Hits the core better due to the need for balance.
the technique demo video is done by the way (the one with the exercises you guys asked about). Keep your eyes peeled for it to be posted this monday night/tuesday. Nobody checks the forum over the weekends, so trying to get it up when the check-in's start slowing down at the beginning of the week.Hellcentrics Apprentice
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08-27-2012, 06:41 AM #13
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HRT Technique Demo Vid
Below is a very in-depth look at how to perform the proper HRT technique on the exercises that YOU requested. It's a long video, as each exercise technique is broken down step by step. If you don't want to watch the whole thing and just want to see a certain exercise explained, here is the order in which they are seen:
1. SOLO HRT Skullcrushers
2. SOLO HRT Seated Leg Curl (replacement for REVERSE HACK SQUATS)
3. SOLO Freemotion HRT Squat (replacement for regular HACK SQUATS)
4. SOLO HRT Barbell Shrugs
5. HRT SOLO Dumbell Side Raises
6. SOLO HRT T-Bar Rows
7. SOLO HRT Rear Delt Dumbell Raises
8. Squat Depth Demo (for Auntielingo. Non-HRT form shown, just an explanation of how deep some of us squat)
9. HRT Partner Hellcentrics Technique Explained 8+4
10. THE RUNNING-TREADMILLL-KETTLEBELL-KICKBACKS (thats right)
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08-27-2012, 07:25 AM #14
O M G !! GREAT VIDEO!!! This was very helpful.. You guys are super fun to watch too! lol! You crack me up. Thanks so much for posting.
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08-27-2012, 09:50 AM #16
Watching it in class cause I'm not learning jack in cjustice class. Yawn! Great video lots of info
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09-05-2012, 09:53 PM #18
Hey bossman!
Rage keeps telling me to throw a partial in the Solo HRT, and from what you told me and what i read on the SOlo HRT forum im super lost. To be clear its 8 regualr reps + 6 hellcentrics at a 5 count correct?Going to HELL and COMING BACK an ANIMAL THREAD>>>>>http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=147315213
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Good question bro. Yes, we just would grab the t-bar and jam the sucker into the corner of a room somewhere, like a pivot. It'll stay put when you're grinding out those reps. Actual t-bar set-ups are solid, but I rarely see them in gyms. Probably just a money saver, as far as buying equipment goes.
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