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[Joesky20]

All of my classmates and teachers are telling me hospitals don't hire 2 year rn's anymore. Only bsn now, if that's not the case i wouldn't mind going to community college then doing the rn to bsn online while working.

[Rabbitw00t]

Smaller hospitals will likely still take you with an associates. The large academic teaching hospital that I worked in took ASN students into the icu right out of school. This was 6 years They don't anymore iirc but the market is rapidly changing. However rural and at need hospitals are likely less picky.

[Megalomaniacal]

Too many 2 year degree paper mills flooded the field with more nurses. At least here in AZ


Full moon was full effect last week btw

[guyman123]

My manager doesn't even look at AS apps anymore and my hospital is pushing all existing associate's RNs to get their BSN within the next year. Are you in FL?

[spicyprice]

Even the small hospital in my hometown in the south doesn't accept ADNs.

There is one hospital in SD still accepting ADNs from what I hear.

How come so much debt?

[SwiftRick]

I was talking to a traveling nurse today in the ER. Seriously this sounds like an amazing job.

2 years of school. Making 90k+ a year, paid lodging, food, travel expenses. Being able to travel, meeting new people.

I am contemplating maybe getting my BSN because it sounds like an amazing deal, but I start Med school in the fall. I am so confused right now.

[spicyprice]

I was talking to a traveling nurse today in the ER. Seriously this sounds like an amazing job.

2 years of school. Making 90k+ a year, paid lodging, food, travel expenses. Being able to travel, meeting new people.

I am contemplating maybe getting my BSN because it sounds like an amazing deal, but I start Med school in the fall. I am so confused right now.

Ive done travel and actually just took a travel job on top of my per diem job. Its a LOT of fun, but it also has its downsides. BRB, never feel at home, lll of your worldly possessions fit in your car.

You've got some tough decisions bro...

[guyman123]

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

[IRockNikes]

For BSN brehs/brehettes, much debt were you guys in once you graduated? I failed chem last semester so i have to wait another year to get into the program, (had B+ and A's in all other classes.. fuk chem). Since im going to be a 5 year, i decided to minor in nutrition next year and get my diabetes certificate to add onto my bachelors in nursing degree. By the time i graduate ill be around 137k in debt..

should i just get my 2 year rn degree.. or is that much debt normal & worth it? fukfukfuk

I strongly advise you to reconsider your choice of going into 137k debt. By the time it's paid off you will probably end up paying close to 1.5-2x that with interest. That is the price of a decent house in my area. That much debt to be a nurse is insane. What year are you now? How much debt currently?

Minoring in nutrition wouldn't hurt you but imo not worth the cost. It may help you get hired as a RN (minimal advantage). Your best bet is to work as a CNA or.tech at a hospital (preferably one you'd like to work at) during school.

Off topic: my hospital (level 1 trauma/ teaching) still hires adns just depends on the needs. Most nurses there only have adns.

[Rabbitw00t]

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

I found the article in question, unfortunately these findings will be hard to dispute because it revolves around patient safety and microbiology.

The only thing you can do it beat it with practicality. Anything that touches anything in a hospital will transfer microorganisms. Nearly every surface of the hospital is dirty. Putting a prefilled syringe down somewhere let alone your pocket will also transfer microorganisms. You will still will be reprimanded for breaking policy.

Stupid policy, arguably. Practical policy? No.

Protip CINAHL is worthless junk. Stick to medline pubmed and Google scholar

[SKIN__N__BONES]

All of my classmates and teachers are telling me hospitals don't hire 2 year rn's anymore. Only bsn now, if that's not the case i wouldn't mind going to community college then doing the rn to bsn online while working.

Im in florida and did 2 year program. Basically my entire class has already been hired hired. I was at a thing for my graduate nurse program yesterday and I saw probably a third of my class there and it was all for PCU/ICU floors.

With that being said they will still want you to go back for BSN and ultimately you should especially if you want to leave the state because a lot of states it is very hard to get anything without a BSN

[spicyprice]

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

Are your saline flushes prewrapped in plastic from the company? Ours are in a sealed plasticwrapper, so unless there is bacteria introduced at the factory (in which case its already contaminated and has had how many weeks/months to brew and grow) there should be no issue.

What a retarded policy....

I strongly advise you to reconsider your choice of going into 137k debt. By the time it's paid off you will probably end up paying close to 1.5-2x that with interest. That is the price of a decent house in my area. That much debt to be a nurse is insane. What year are you now? How much debt currently?

Minoring in nutrition wouldn't hurt you but imo not worth the cost. It may help you get hired as a RN (minimal advantage). Your best bet is to work as a CNA or.tech at a hospital (preferably one you'd like to work at) during school.

Off topic: my hospital (level 1 trauma/ teaching) still hires adns just depends on the needs. Most nurses there only have adns.

What state area are you in, if you dont mind me asking?

Also, Joesky.... why not just apply to cheaper BSN programs? You can surely find out of state that us cheaper than that. No one cares where you went to Nursing school. Business School, more likely. Nursing? They DGAF.

[StickLegs78]

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

What the company that makes them recommend for storage temps?

Eta: store at room temp (77), brief exposures to 104 do not affect product. It's sterile.

[spikebrah]

Officially registered with the NMC last week, landed a permanent contract in the NHS in my ideal role yesterday!!!!! 6 weeks til I start my new position as a CPN in dual diagnosis services. Everything I have worked towards my whole adult life is beginning to take shape now

I don't post too often in this thread cause most of you are in the US so it's honestly like reading about an entirely different profession. But glory is universal, so to any student nurses/potential student nurses, keep hustling cuz. We're all gonna make it.

[bel316]

My old boss always told me, "Try not to fish off the company pier."

lol... Ill have to remember that one.

[SwiftRick]

Ive done travel and actually just took a travel job on top of my per diem job. Its a LOT of fun, but it also has its downsides. BRB, never feel at home, lll of your worldly possessions fit in your car.

You've got some tough decisions bro...

PM'ed you

p-please respond

[guyman123]

Protip CINAHL is worthless junk. Stick to medline pubmed and Google scholar

Thanks for the tip. I forgot about the other three.

I found the article in question, unfortunately these findings will be hard to dispute because it revolves around patient safety and microbiology.

The only thing you can do it beat it with practicality. Anything that touches anything in a hospital will transfer microorganisms. Nearly every surface of the hospital is dirty. Putting a prefilled syringe down somewhere let alone your pocket will also transfer microorganisms. You will still will be reprimanded for breaking policy.

Stupid policy, arguably. Practical policy? No.

Are your saline flushes prewrapped in plastic from the company? Ours are in a sealed plasticwrapper, so unless there is bacteria introduced at the factory (in which case its already contaminated and has had how many weeks/months to brew and grow) there should be no issue.

What a retarded policy....

What the company that makes them recommend for storage temps?

Eta: store at room temp (77), brief exposures to 104 do not affect product. It's sterile.

I am referring to the pre-wrapped flushes. I actually don't remember what brand the flushes are, despite how often I look at the box every week. No matter how you look at it, I don't see how body heat on these flushes increases risk for infection. The only I can think of is not scrubbing the hub with alcohol prior to flushing.

[South Side Stev]

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

This is my problem with non clinical people. They sit around thinking of things to justify their job.

An example I'm dealing with: We have to recredential every two years (logging numbers for procedures, getting paperwork for privileges, correspondence with medical board, etc), I get that. Last year when I recredentialed I was told they would be doing this every year, in ADDITION TO the same paperwork I would also have to do every 2 years - i told them this was asinine. Well a few weeks ago someone told me that I would have to submit a log of every procedure I do along with a 'longitudinal outcome' report of said procedure EVERY SIX MONTHS. I do hundreds of procedures a month and the only outcome I regularly deal with is looking at a chest Xray to check position/absence of PTX/etc.

The procedures I do are in addition to my responsibilities in the OR. I know who exactly is behind this, and it is a pair of NPs who stopped doing clinical work, went into administration, and got their DNP. I work no less than 60 hours a week and I don't have time to do more bull**** busywork all because they need a reason to justify their job title.

[DatMurse]

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

are the syringes sealed?

[Rabbitw00t]

Guyman, this is their reasoning. The scrubs in their study cultured some nasty things. Your body heat of 37 degrees is a great temp for these germs to flourish. When you take the saline syringe even in the plastic and place it in your pocket there is a transfer of germs from the scrubs to the syringe. The longer it stays there of course the warmer it gets. You then go and grab the syringe which may have now those germs and you're then touching the patient. The contents inside the syringe are not the problem. It's what forms on the outside. Even the plastic.

[Megalomaniacal]

but part of a nurse's uniform is saline flushes and alcohol pads


this can't happen

[hxcstunna]

Requires 4 year BSN and starts pay low twenties per hour in whatever hospital and position you can manager to get. Tons of chit and urine incompetent pts likely. Lel. Nursing is a great field to get into!

[veggie530]

I forgot someone wanted a beard pic.

I apologize, it's unkept. I slept on it and didn't brush it/wash it/oil it yet today.



I wear masks whenever I'm near a patient that could cough, that's my only thing.

[veggie530]

This is my problem with non clinical people. They sit around thinking of things to justify their job.

An example I'm dealing with: We have to recredential every two years (logging numbers for procedures, getting paperwork for privileges, correspondence with medical board, etc), I get that. Last year when I recredentialed I was told they would be doing this every year, in ADDITION TO the same paperwork I would also have to do every 2 years - i told them this was asinine. Well a few weeks ago someone told me that I would have to submit a log of every procedure I do along with a 'longitudinal outcome' report of said procedure EVERY SIX MONTHS. I do hundreds of procedures a month and the only outcome I regularly deal with is looking at a chest Xray to check position/absence of PTX/etc.

The procedures I do are in addition to my responsibilities in the OR. I know who exactly is behind this, and it is a pair of NPs who stopped doing clinical work, went into administration, and got their DNP. I work no less than 60 hours a week and I don't have time to do more bull**** busywork all because they need a reason to justify their job title.

Shots ****ing fired, and I 100% agree. This happens all the damn time. What makes it worse is when they qualify it as "for better patient care; for the patients;" etc. when really it's money or their career or both.

My hospital now has a policy, created by an epidemiologist, that states that nurses can no longer carry saline flushes due to body heat increasing chances of infection. Does someone have an article that can prove this chit wrong? I couldn't find any on CINAHL.

Please find one that validates the concern and/or the policy. That should be the burden, not the other way around. Good luck.

[hxcstunna]

Officially registered with the NMC last week, landed a permanent contract in the NHS in my ideal role yesterday!!!!! 6 weeks til I start my new position as a CPN in dual diagnosis services. Everything I have worked towards my whole adult life is beginning to take shape now

I don't post too often in this thread cause most of you are in the US so it's honestly like reading about an entirely different profession. But glory is universal, so to any student nurses/potential student nurses, keep hustling cuz. We're all gonna make it.

Congrats bruh! Wait, you're 12, is that how they're doing it over there in the UK?

[guyman123]

This is my problem with non clinical people. They sit around thinking of things to justify their job.

An example I'm dealing with: We have to recredential every two years (logging numbers for procedures, getting paperwork for privileges, correspondence with medical board, etc), I get that. Last year when I recredentialed I was told they would be doing this every year, in ADDITION TO the same paperwork I would also have to do every 2 years - i told them this was asinine. Well a few weeks ago someone told me that I would have to submit a log of every procedure I do along with a 'longitudinal outcome' report of said procedure EVERY SIX MONTHS. I do hundreds of procedures a month and the only outcome I regularly deal with is looking at a chest Xray to check position/absence of PTX/etc.

The procedures I do are in addition to my responsibilities in the OR. I know who exactly is behind this, and it is a pair of NPs who stopped doing clinical work, went into administration, and got their DNP. I work no less than 60 hours a week and I don't have time to do more bull**** busywork all because they need a reason to justify their job title.

This should be your response.

Guyman, this is their reasoning. The scrubs in their study cultured some nasty things. Your body heat of 37 degrees is a great temp for these germs to flourish. When you take the saline syringe even in the plastic and place it in your pocket there is a transfer of germs from the scrubs to the syringe. The longer it stays there of course the warmer it gets. You then go and grab the syringe which may have now those germs and you're then touching the patient. The contents inside the syringe are not the problem. It's what forms on the outside. Even the plastic.

That's ridiculous. They can suck my ass.

[spicyprice]

Ran across this as an advert on FB. Must be kidding. AND, $42 for a pair of scrub pants? LOLNO.
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skinny pants with dirty but work appropriate shoes








Straight leg Urbane and solid IguanaMed top erryday. Who would wear pants with your ankles exposed?? Gross.























Edit. Total fail.


Check out Jaanuu scrubs. They have some "skinny" scrub pants and they're modeled with cute flats and wedge heals. Not even.

[DatMurse]

I blew my last interview... ugh... I had 2 interviewers. I thought it would have been one and that made me nervous as hell. Some of my responses I really stuttered and got a little scared.

[spicyprice]

I blew my last interview... ugh... I had 2 interviewers. I thought it would have been one and that made me nervous as hell. Some of my responses I really stuttered and got a little scared.

Who were the people who interviewed you?

[DatMurse]

Who were the people who interviewed you?

director of oncology and the asst manager. I was also stressed from some personal **** that happened 2 hours before that. It kinda sucked because I usually connect with my interviewer and there were 2 so that definitely didnt happen. I didnt have many questions because the HR person was a RN that worked there all her life. I need to finish off
"What could I have done or what could I do to help me get the position?"