Dat Dere LF Log JEAH

[earthshieldlol]

I would stand up for him but when he puts ingredients like "cumin" in his soup, I mean honestly hard to argue otherwise!

loooool fukcin hate all of you

[Freshnez]

Hey man, just wanna wish you good luck... log is looking really good

Just wondering how your doing your EC stack... I read recommended max dose is 3x8mg + 1 200mg Caffeine 3 times a day, just wondering what you're doing exactly

[earthshieldlol]

Hey man, just wanna wish you good luck... log is looking really good

Just wondering how your doing your EC stack... I read recommended max dose is 3x8mg + 1 200mg Caffeine 3 times a day, just wondering what you're doing exactly

heyo, thanks for stopping by. when i first started on EC i was taking too much and had a lot of trouble sleeping. these days i usually dose 3x25mg bronkaid per day, generally 1x bronkaid + 1x 200mg C when i wake up, another 1x bronkaid + 1x 200mg C around lunch time, and then 1x bronaid + 2 scoops jack3d about 30 min before i lift. i've heard the 3x8mg thing before but not sure if that's for pure ephedrine or what. bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate and i honestly don't know how many mg of ephedrine that break down into, but 3xbronkaid is a pretty standard dose in the US. not sure exactly what form of E is available in canada.

[HaroldGee]

nice progress brother. it makes me feel alright seeing that it is possible to lose fat and see a difference, as long as you keep consistent. im currently 35% bf and lemme tell you, it scares me how much fat i accumalated the past year. how long are you cutting?

[Freshnez]

heyo, thanks for stopping by. when i first started on EC i was taking too much and had a lot of trouble sleeping. these days i usually dose 3x25mg bronkaid per day, generally 1x bronkaid + 1x 200mg C when i wake up, another 1x bronkaid + 1x 200mg C around lunch time, and then 1x bronaid + 2 scoops jack3d about 30 min before i lift. i've heard the 3x8mg thing before but not sure if that's for pure ephedrine or what. bronkaid is ephedrine sulfate and i honestly don't know how many mg of ephedrine that break down into, but 3xbronkaid is a pretty standard dose in the US. not sure exactly what form of E is available in canada.

Ah cool thanks for the info

This is the exact type I was using at max dose which was 3x8mg pill + 1 200mg caffeine 3 times a day... was sometimes hard to sleep lmfao. Not sure if bronkaid is Epehdrine HCL.

[earthshieldlol]

11/14/2012

Diet:
(1) 2x Pure Protein bar: 360cal, 9g fat, 34g carbs, 40g protein
(2) 4x mini bagel: 400cal, 0g fat, 88g carbs 12g protein
(3) 2x Chobani Strawb: 280cal, 0g fat, 40g carbs, 28g protein
(4) 3.25oz beef jerky: 260cal, 3g fat, 10g carbs, 49g protein
(5) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(6) 2x lowfat string cheese: 100cal, 5g fat, 0g carbs, 14g protein
(7) 220g pork tenderloin: 240cal, 4.5g fat, 0g carbs, 46g protein
(8) 4c turnip greens: 50cal, 0g fat, 12g carbs, 2g protein
(9) 129g Talenti: 280cal, 11.5g fat, 38g carbs, 5g protein
Total: 2000cal, 36g fat, 222g carbs, 196g protein

Lifts: Back/bi
BB Bent Over Row (135x8; 135x8; 135x8; 135x13)
DB Bent Over Row (65x8; 65x8; 65x8; 65x12)
DB Pullover (70x8; 70x8; 70x8; 70x12)
DB Snatch (50x8; 50x8; 50x8; 50x8)
Alt DB curl (35x8; 35x8; 35x8; 35x10)
Hammer curl (35x8; 35x8; 35x8; 35x10)
Deadlift (190x5; 220x5; 250x5; 270x5; 290x3)

[earthshieldlol]

nice progress brother. it makes me feel alright seeing that it is possible to lose fat and see a difference, as long as you keep consistent. im currently 35% bf and lemme tell you, it scares me how much fat i accumalated the past year. how long are you cutting?

hey man, right now i'm finishing up the cut and currently reverse dieting back up to maintenance. planning to be well into a surplus and full blown bulking by dec 1. i'm not really following a strict schedule of upping calories yet, but planning to just increase by 200 or so every few days until i start gaining weight. right now holding steady at 2000 cal/day for a few days.

[earthshieldlol]

alright, so here's the plan. beginning my 2-week reverse diet up to 3200cal tomorrow. tomorrow will be 2k and then increasing by 75cal each day until 12/1 at which time i'll be sitting pretty at 3200cal/day. right now planning to stick to 3200 until march 1 and then decide what to do at that time, either continue bulking for another month or go ahead and start cutting for summer. may adjust calories downward at the 1month mark depending on how fat i'm getting, or may just say to hell with it and accept the fat as it comes. it's all a learning experience from here, and if worse comes to worst, at least i know how to cut. LEHGO GAINZ.

for my own reference:

11/15 : 2000
11/16 : 2075
11/17 : 2150
11/18 : 2225
11/19 : 2300
11/20 : 2375
11/21 : 2450
11/22 : 2525
11/23 : 2600
11/24 : 2675
11/25 : 2750
11/26 : 2825
11/27 : 2900
11/28 : 2975
11/29 : 3050
11/30 : 3125
12/1: 3200

edit: and for the record i may just go beyond 3200 if i'm not getting the gains i want after a month. willing to do what it takes here & get over the fear of being fat. inb4 6000cals/day.

edit2: googled "how many calories should i bulk on" and now i feel like a *******. kids everywhere bulking on 5k+ wtf is this i dont even. the only one near 3200 was 5'4" 140lbs...... is this real life. brb possibly rethinking some chit.

[Freshdou]

Final pic of progress? Grats on your diet by the way.

Hope your bulk is successful! Try not to lose too much of your gains. Gotta stay lean.

Slow bulking at ~300 is the way to go.

[earthshieldlol]

Final pic of progress? Grats on your diet by the way.

Hope your bulk is successful! Try not to lose too much of your gains. Gotta stay lean.

Slow bulking at ~300 is the way to go.

thanks, i got some pics on my phone from the other day that i'll post up tomorrow. my current avi is from sunday or monday, so i'll consider that my "after" cut photo.

to be honest i'm not totally sold on the whole leangains/300cal surplus thing. i see the merits of it, but honestly it really seems slow and unreliable. you don't see a lot of guys get big on a surplus that small. you see a lot of small guys on a surplus like that, and you might see guys who are already big maintaining or doing a small bulk on a 300cal surplus, but from what i've seen, the people who really blow up in a fairly small amount of time (like the ones who get jacked in a year) generally bulk pretty hard. so i'm gonna try that out first and see what happens. i keep reminding myself though (and i hope others do too) that this is always just an experiment and that the worst thing you can do is get too set on one thing being the right way and everything else being wrong. i really think there's so much trial and error to this whole thing, and it's really about finding what works best for your own personal goals. for me, i'd really like to pack on a good bit of extra muscle over the next year, maybe 10 or 20 pounds. i don't really know how much muscle i gained before i learned about proper nutrition, so i'm not sure how much of my "genetic potential" or noob gains i've already used up. but i'd really like to look pretty damn solid in a year or so and if that means getting a little fat, like i said, it's so easy to cut fat so i'm not too worried.

anyway, i just ranted for far too long. time to take a poop and go to sleep. adios!

[earthshieldlol]

11/15/2012

Diet:
(1) 3x Pure Protein bar: 540cal, 13.5g fat, 51g carbs, 60g protein
(2) 5x mini bagel: 500cal, 0g fat, 110g carbs, 15g protein
(3) 220g pork tenderloin: 240cal, 4.5g fat, 0g carbs, 46g protein
(4) 4c turnip greens: 50cal, 0g fat, 12g carbs, 2g protein
(5) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(6) Chobani Strawb: 140cal, 0g fat, 20g carbs, 14g protein
(7) 2x lowfat string cheese: 100cal, 5g fat, 0g carbs, 14g protein
(8) 160g chicken breast: 175cal, 1.5g fat, 0g carbs, 37g protein
(9) 1tbsp fat free sour cream: 10cal, 0g fat, 2g carbs, 1g protein
(0) 100g Talenti: 215cal, 9g fat, 29g carbs, 4g protein
Total: 2000cal, 36.5g fat, 224g carbs, 193g protonz

Lifts: Shoulders
DB Shrugs (65x15; 80x10; 80x10; 80x10; 80x15)
Military Press (117.5x6; 117.5x6; 117.5x6; 117.5x6)
Rear Delt Raise (25x10; 25x10; 25x10; 25x15)
EZ Bar Upright Rows (92.5x8; 92.5x8; 92.5x8; 92.5x12)
DB Arnold press (35x10; 40x10; 40x10; 40x12)
Lat Raise (20x8; 20x8; 20x8; 20x12)
BB Shrugs (195x10; 195x10; 195x10; 195x15)

[cunfewzed]

11/15/2012

Diet:
(1) 2x mini bagel
(2) Pure Protein bar
Total:

Lifts: Shoulders

Mini bagel FTW

[earthshieldlol]

Mini bagel FTW

they're fuggin addictive

[earthshieldlol]

11/16/2012

Diet:
(1) 2 eggs: 130cal, 8g fat, 0g carbs, 12g protein
(2) 2x mini bagel: 200cal, 0g fat, 44g carbs, 6g protein
(3) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(4) Chobani Strawb: 140cal, 0g fat, 20g carbs, 14g protein
(5) 2x lowfat string cheese: 100cal, 5g fat, 0g carbs, 14g protein
(6) 6.25oz beef jerky: 500cal, 6g fat, 19g carbs, 94g protein
(7) Chick-fil-a: 550cal, 16g fat, 47g carbs, 56g protein
(8) Cliff bar: 230cal, 4.5g fat, 43g carbs, 10g protein
(9) 112g ham: 110cal, 2g fat, 4g carbs, 20g protein
(11) 224g clementine: 105cal, 0g fat, 27g carbs, 2.5g protein
Total: 2095cal, 44.5g fat, 204g carbs, 228.5g protein

[earthshieldlol]

11/17/2012

Diet:
(1) 5x mini bagel: 500cal, 0g fat, 110g carbs, 15g protein
(2) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(3) 2x Chobani Strawb: 280cal, 0g fat, 40g carbs, 28g protein
(4) 3.25oz beef jerky: 340cal, 3g fat, 20g carbs, 39g protein
(5) 112g ham: 120cal, 3 fat, 4g carbs, 19g protein
(6) 224g 92/8 ground beef: 320cal, 18g fat, 0g carbs, 42g protein
(7) 1 egg: 70cal, 4g fat, 0g carbs, 6g protein
(8) 14g bread crumbs: 55cal, 1g fat, 10g carbs, 2g protein
(9) Yogurt bar: 150cal, 4.5g fat, 25g carbs, 2g protein
(10) 300g fat free cottage cheese: 215cal, 0g fat, 13g carbs, 40g protein
(11) 1x lowfat string cheese: 50cal, 2.5g fat, 0g carbs, 7g protein
(12) 1 bite Talenti: 20cal, iunnosumstuff
Total: 2150cal, 39g fat, 222g carbs, 200g protein

Lifts: random garbagio
Lat pulldown (95x8; 95x8; 95x8; 95x11)
Incline DB press (50x8; 50x8; 50x8; 50x15)
Hack squat (150x5; 150x5; 150x5; 150x5; 150x5)
Leg extension (95x15; 95x15; 95x15; 95x20)
Decline crunch (15; 15; 15; 15)
Alt DB curl (40x6; 40x6; 40x6; 40x)

[earthshieldlol]

11/18/2012

Diet:
(1) 2x mini bagel: 200cal, 0g fat, 44g carbs, 6g protein
(2) 2x eggs: 140cal, 8g fat, 0g carbs, 12g protein
(3) Chobani: 140cal, 0g fat, 20g carbs, 14g protein
(4) 186g chicken: 205cal, 1.5g fat, 0g carbs, 43g protein
(5) 86g cinnamon/spice oatmeal: 320cal, 4g fat, 64g carbs, 8g protein
(6) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(7) 248g 92/8 ground beef: 354cal, 20g fat, 0g carbs, 46.5g protein
(7) 1 egg: 70cal, 4g fat, 0g carbs, 6g protein
(8) 14g bread crumbs: 55cal, 1g fat, 10g carbs, 2g protein
(9) Snickers Marathon: 290cal, 10g fat, 40g carbs, 20g protein
(10) 3.25oz beef jerky: 260cal, 3g fat, 10g carbs, 49g protein
(11) 75g froyo: 150cal, 5g fat, 22g carbs, 4.5g protein
Total: 2214cal, 59.5g fat, 190g carbs, 211g protein

[earthshieldlol]

11/19/2012

Diet:
(1) 2x oatmeal square: 340cal, 4g fat, 70g carbs, 12g protein
(2) 6x lowfat string cheese: 300cal, 15g fat, 0g carbs, 42g protein
(3) Chobani Strawberry: 140cal, 0g fat, 20g carbs, 14g protein
(4) 3.25oz beef jerky: 260cal, 3g fat, 10g carbs, 49g protein
(5) 2x Pure Protein bar: 400cal, 10g fat, 36g carbs, 40g protein
(6) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(7) 60g risotto: 215cal, 0g fat, 48g carbs, 4g protein
(8) 224g 92/8 beef: 320cal, 18g fat, 0g carbs, 42g protein
(9) 100g Talenti Coconut: 190cal, 9g fat, 25g carbs, 3g protein
(10) 148g fat free cottage cheese: 105cal, 0g fat, 6.5g carbs, 19.5g protein
Total: 2300cal, 62g fat, 215.5g carbs, 225.5g protein

Lifts: Chest/tri
Flat bench (165x10; 200x8; 205x8; 210x6)
Wide guillotine (145x10; 150x8; 155x8; 160x8) [f'd around w/ half ROM to keep tension on pec]
Incline bench (125x8; 135x8; 155x8; 160x8) [FINALLY got my form figured out; strength went thru the roof this week as a result]
Incline DB press (55x10; 60x8; 65x8; 70x8; 75x6)
Chest flyes (35x8; 35x8; 35x8; 35x10)
2h tri extension (75x8; 75x8; 75x8; 75x12)
Skullcrusher (70x8; 70x8; 70x8; 70x9)

[earthshieldlol]

11/20/2012

Diet:
(1) 1x oatmeal square: 170cal, 2g fat, 35g carbs, 6g protein
(2) 3x Pure Protein bar: 600cal, 15g fat, 54g carbs, 60g protein
(3) 15g lowfat cream cheese: 35cal, 3g fat, 1g carbs, 1g protein
(4) 2x string cheese: 100cal, 5g fat, 0g carbs, 14g protein
(5) 2x Bud Light: 220cal, 0g fat, 14g carbs, 2g protein (LOL PROTEIN IN BEER)
(6) Bad meal of peace: 800cal, 40g fat, 80g carbs, 30g protein
(7) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
Total: 1955cal, 68g fat, 184g carbs, 113g protein

Lifts: Back/bi
BB Bent Over Row (140x8; 140x8; 140x8; 140x12)
DB Bent Over Row (70x8; 70x8; 70x8; 70x12)
DB Pullover (75x8; 75x8; 75x8; 75x10)
DB Snatch (50x8; 50x8; 50x8; 50x8)
Alt DB curl (40x6; 40x6; 40x6; 40x6)
Hammer curl (40x6; 40x6; 40x6; 40x6)

[earthshieldlol]

11/21/2012

Diet:
(1) Pure Proton Bar: 200cal, 5g fat, 18g carbs, 20g protein
(2) 150g Talenti: 325cal, 13g fat, 44.5g carbs, 6g protein
(3) Cliff Bar Carrot Cake: 240cal, 4.5g fat, 44g carbs, 9g protein
(4) 24x Chickfila Nugs: 800cal, 36g fat, 34g carbs, 84g protein
(5) 3.25oz beef jerky: 260cal, 3g fat, 10g carbs, 49g protein
(6) Chobani Strawyberry: 140cal, 0g fat, 20g carbs, 14g protein
(7) 247g 92/8 beef: 350cal, 20g fat, 0g carbs, 46g protein
(8) 14g bread crumbs: 55cal, 1g fat, 10g carbs, 2g protein
(9) 60g onion: 25cal, 0g fat, 6g carbs, 1g protein
(12) 1x egg: 70cal, 4g fat, 0g carbs, 6g protein
(13) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
Total: 2495cal, 89.5g fat, 186.5g carbs, 237g protein

Lifts: DL
Deadlift (195x5; 225x5; 255x5; 280x5; 300x5; 340x1)
SLDL (150x5; 175x5; 200x5; 225x5; 250x5)

[earthshieldlol]

11/22/2012

Diet:
lots of chit

Lifts: Shoulders
DB Shrugs (50x20; 50x20; 50x20; 50x20)
DB Arnold press (40x10; 40x10; 40x10; 40x10)
Rear Delt Raise (30x10; 30x10; 30x10; 30x10)
Lat Raise (25x8; 25x8; 25x8; 25x10)
Decline Crunches (20; 20; 20; 20; 20)
EZ Bar Upright Rows (95x8; 95x8; 95x10; 95x10)
Military Press (95x8; 95x8; 95x8; 95x12)

[Freshdou]

How was the initial weight gain from water weight and the transition from cut to bulk?

Did you lose a bit of definition in your abs?

[earthshieldlol]

How was the initial weight gain from water weight and the transition from cut to bulk?

Did you lose a bit of definition in your abs?

definitely *feel* more bloated etc from the greatly increased food intake but i really haven't bothered to weigh in much this past week or so because i don't want to psych myself out and hinder the bulk. the overall loss of definition has been minimal so far but i fully expect that to happen over the next few weeks. just trying to not think/worry too much about staying lean since at the end of the day that's not the point of a bulk at all. i don't buy into the whole leangains thing, seems like a waste of time to me.

[earthshieldlol]

11/23/2012

(1) 4x eggs: 280cal, 16g fat, 0g carbs, 24g protein
(2) 168g ham: 150cal, 4.5g fat, 0g carbs, 27g protein
(3) 2x cheese slice: 140cal, 9g fat, 4g carbs, 8g protein
(4) 1 pkg oatmeal: 130cal, 2.5g fat, 27g carbs, 3g protein
(5) 20g raisen: 65cal, 0g fat, 15g carbs, 1g protein
(6) 2x Chobani ban/strw: 320cal, 6g fat, 38g carbs, 28g protein
(7) 470g pork tenderloin: 512cal, 9g fat, 0g carbs, 99g protein
(8) 2x cinnamon bread: 160cal, 3g fat, 30g carbs, 4g protein
(9) 30g lowfat cream cheese: 70cal, 6g fat, 2g carbs, 2g protein
(10) 2x lowfat string cheese: 100cal, 5g fat, 0g carbs, 14g protein
(11) 65g brown rice: 230cal, 1.5g fat, 39g carbs, 5g protein
(12) 2x mini bagel: 240cal, 2g fat, 50g carbs, 8g protein
(13) 3x fish oil: 30cal, 3g fat, 0g carbs, 0g protein
(14) 100g ice cream: 170cal, 9g fat, 21g carbs, 2g protein
Total: 2607cal, 76.5g fat, 226g carbs, 225g protein

[Freshdou]

definitely *feel* more bloated etc from the greatly increased food intake but i really haven't bothered to weigh in much this past week or so because i don't want to psych myself out and hinder the bulk. the overall loss of definition has been minimal so far but i fully expect that to happen over the next few weeks. just trying to not think/worry too much about staying lean since at the end of the day that's not the point of a bulk at all. i don't buy into the whole leangains thing, seems like a waste of time to me.

Ah ok. Hope the bulk goes well haha. Will be checking in for results!

[earthshieldlol]

11/25/2012

Lifts: Legs/DL
Squat (135x5, 185x5, 205x5, 225x5, 245x5)
DL (155x15, 165x15, 175x15, 185x15)
RDL (185x15, 185x15, 185x15, 185x12)
Calf raise (135x20, 145x20, 155x20, 165x20, 185x20)

[earthshieldlol]

11/26/2012

Diet:

Lifts: Chest/tri
Flat bench (165x10; 202.5x8; 207.5x8; 212.5x6)
Wide guillotine (147.5x10; 152.5x8; 157.5x8; 162.5x8)
Incline bench (147.5x8; 152.5x8; 157.5x8; 162.5x8)
Incline DB press (60x10; 65x8; 70x8; 75x8)
Chest flyes (25x10; 25x10; 25x10; 25x10)
2h tri extension (80x8; 80x8; 80x8; 80x10)
Skullcrusher (75x8; 75x7; 75x6; 75x6)

[earthshieldlol]

figured i'd throw up a little bloggy time. so first of all, i'm deadlifting 2x a week right now, gonna try it out for a few weeks and see what happens. donations for my back surgery fund are accepted via paypal or western union. DL day 1 is low rep, high weight working sets, and DL day 2 is high rep ~50% weight. did my first high rep session yesterday and almost puked afterward. 135 DL reps + squats, good stuff. my back is feelin all kinds of crazy this morning. this is bulking, eh?

also, on the topic of bulking. i've kind of quit worrying as much about tracking my calories and macros hardcore. after all, the goal here is to eat as much as i can without getting too fat, so i don't feel like i need to be as vigilant about watching calories since it's really the mirror that's driving this bulk. i want to look bigger without looking fatter, and i'm still mindful of the calories in what i'm eating without having to be overly stringent about writing everything down. i make sure to hit around 200g protein, then the rest i just eat until i feel like i'm somewhere around 3000 cal. i've counted cals enough in the past 6 months to have a pretty good idea of how much i'm eating, so i'm gonna give this a go for a few weeks and see what happens. if i keep pushing hard w/ the workouts, i want to make sure i'm eating enough to get dem gainz. you won't find any of that lean bulking BS in this log unfortunately. bulky time = eating time, no pussyfooting around it.

[earthshieldlol]

throwing this out there for any poor souls who read my log. i was at the point of using 2.5-3scoops jack3d before a workout. i realized the other day how stupid that is. don't be stupid like i was, please. stick to 1-1.5scoops. otherwise it's a waste of money and leads to nothing but stim dick and stim crash.

[Horizon92]

I'm sure you are already doing it, but if not, take pictures from the start of the bulk and check in after 3-4 weeks, seeing that you are ballparking your cals. My cousin who is a competing bodybuilder gets so fat after competitions its ridiculous, and it happens so quick as well. BTW what does jack3d actually do? It's illegal here in norway

[LightsOut06]

good luck with your bulk. However, I don't understand why folks make a big deal about counting calories and macros. It only takes like a minute! Better to be precise so you don't waste time right?