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    Marine Who Challenged Generals "Training Americans to Fight Americans" Still Held

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    Chesterfield Marine veteran to remain detained over Facebook posts

    HOPEWELL, Va. (WTVR) – Protestors gathered outside John Randolph Medical Center where a Marine veteran is detained after allegedly making some questionable Facebook posts.

    CBS 6 News’ Catie Beck confirmed with attorneys from the Rutherford Institute, who represented 26-year-old Brandon Raub during a Monday morning hearing, that he will remain in custody.

    Two family members were also allowed to attend the hearing, but directed Beck to the lawyers, who said they were preparing a statement.

    Monday afternnoon, Chesterfield Police’s Col. Thierry Dupuis issued a statement about Raub’s detention after receiving numerous media inquiries.

    Dupuis said Chesterfield officers thought Raub needed further evaluation after they talked with him. Crisis workers advised cops to bring Raub in for an evaluation.

    Police said Raub, who was placed in handcuffs after resisting officers’ attempts to take him into custody, was taken for an evaluation in accordance with Virginia State Code § 37.2-808 Emergency custody. [BONUS: Read Chesterfield police's complete statement on Raub]

    Protestors said they are upset because Raub was was led away from his house in handcuffs around 7:30 p.m. Thursday without ever being charged – and they feel that is a violation of his First Amendment rights. [RELATED: Chesterfield man, Marine veteran, detained over Facebook posts]

    A former Marine who served two tours in Afghanistan with Raub told Beck that he is a courageous and patriotic young man with showed no signs of posttraumatic stress disorder. Additionally, the man said he believes a mental evaluation would find Raub sane — and not someone who is capable of a terroristic threat.

    Video of Raub’s detention, posted Friday afternoon, has amassed almost 107,000 views on YouTube as of 12:30 p.m. Monday. The video has enlisted video responses as well. A Facebook group has been started in support of Brandon Raub, and currently has over 3,000 members. http://wtvr.com/2012/08/20/hearing-b...acebook-posts/
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    By Brandon Raub, on November 16th, 2011

    http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=21770

    ...fiat currency and wars go together. One war leads to massive inflation which leads to diverted capital and re-directed capital, which leads to another, and continues the cycle. Let me explain: Historically you have not had one without the other for the entire course of human history.

    A Federal Reserve type banking system makes it much easier for governments to go to war, because you don’t have to take out loans from other governments (selling treasury bonds) or raise taxes on your citizens.

    They have a magic credit card. Wars with a central bank basically result in a massive increase in available capital which creates one thing: inflation.

    Here is the key: War diverts capital that would have been invested in something like an automobile factory, refrigerator factory, for example, and puts it into a sector of the economy that it wouldn’t have normally been in. That capital comes from somewhere. Instead of the free market dictating the best place for that capital and investment, it’s redirected because of the war.

    A federal reserve leads to war, which leads to a distortion of the free market. A fed leads to another war which leads to more of the economy being diverted from where it would normally be doing the most efficient and profitable things. A bigger portion of nationals capital and production is diverted for war purposes. And the trend continues.

    A couple of things are happening simultaneously:

    1) Peoples purchasing power is being robbed. Obviously.

    2) A larger percentage of the nations industrial capacity is being diverted from its natural free state to fund the wars.

    3) The fed is able to flush the system with more paper dollars. The three feed into one another, until people begin to believe the lie that war is good for the economy. It’s a lie. It’s good for the politically well connected, the banks and corporations who are in position to profit from the war. If war was so good for the economy, why wouldn’t we just do away with bombing other nations and just build buildings in mojave desert.

    That way we could always have jobs for people to build the buildings and jobs for people to build the bombs and tanks we use to blow them up.

    The truth is all that capital must come from somewhere. In order to build a tank, you have to not build or upgrade a refrigerator or a radio. You have to take from someone or a certain area of the economy and divert the free market to fund war.

    There is a solution to all of this: Free and Sound Money and De-Regulating our Industry http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=21770
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    Give a rest. We may have prevented a Tim McVeigh 2.0 here.
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    Originally Posted by Tekkendo View Post
    Give a rest. We may have prevented a Tim McVeigh 2.0 here.
    All together now Zionists: "A little safety is worth a lot of liberty!" (and then we can lock you up too when you protest wars for Israel! - wink..)
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    he's not charged, not under arrest, he's under mental evaluation because he's making what appears to be death threats on facebook.
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    Originally Posted by flairon View Post
    he's not charged, not under arrest, he's under mental evaluation because he's making what appears to be death threats on facebook.
    Then why didn't they just put a restraining order on him and pick him up if he violated it? Making threats is nothing that ordinary, everyday law doesn't deal with.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    All together now Zionists: "A little safety is worth a lot of liberty!" (and then we can lock you up too when you protest wars for Israel! - wink..)
    See those flashing lights coming down the road? You are next!!
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    Somethings sus.

    It's specially bad when an ex-soldier, ex-police, etc. is involved - almost as though there is an example being made out of them to deter fellow soldiers and police from speaking out against the establishment.

    Pity.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    Then why didn't they just put a restraining order on him and pick him up if he violated it? Making threats is nothing that ordinary, everyday law doesn't deal with.
    You're an idiot. Do you really think someone thought to be mentally unstable gives half a sh*t about a restraining order?

    The first amendment doesn't give you the right to make threats. Read a book retard. Maybe one that doesn't have the central theme of jews or 9/11
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    Then why didn't they just put a restraining order on him and pick him up if he violated it? Making threats is nothing that ordinary, everyday law doesn't deal with.
    A restraining order from who exactly? Just stop posting, no one cares about your tinfoil hat bull****.
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    This is disturbing. The guy is 'detained' for mental evaluation due to facebook posts?

    I've seen far worse from half the posters in this section alone.

    Even more disturbing is how readily you guys embrace his detention.
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    So he is in the Military but speaks out against the Military and says 9/11 was an inside job and whatnot ? Am I correct in assuming that is the general message ?
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    I could understand if the family called the police out of concern for his mental well being. That wasnt the case. It was the FBI that invoked 37.2-808


    You guys should be extremely wary of the federal government having people forcible committed to a mental rehab facility....but you are not. I truly do not get it.
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    thats what he gets for posting questionable comments on spybook.

    "Generals, I am coming for you" + post = bad news.
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    Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    thats what he gets for posting questionable comments on spybook.

    "Generals, I am coming for you" + post = bad news.
    Then he should be charged with a crime.

    Im blown away how everyone is cool with the federal government forcible committing this person to a mental facility....because of a facebook posting. Not because his family or friends called...but because of a facebook posting.
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    Originally Posted by markymark69 View Post
    Then he should be charged with a crime.

    Im blown away how everyone is cool with the federal government forcible committing this person to a mental facility....because of a facebook posting. Not because his family or friends called...but because of a facebook posting.
    Did the feds commit him or did local police?

    Do we know how he came onto LE's radar to begin with?

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    Originally Posted by Kiknskreem View Post
    Did the feds commit him or did local police?

    Do we know how he came onto LE's radar to begin with?
    The feds. Chesterfield police were the designated transport. a local agency is required to be the designated transport.

    Maybe the guy has a screw loose...in any case I have strong reservations with the government forcibly committing a citizen for 'mental evaluation' against the wishes of family.
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    Originally Posted by markymark69 View Post
    Then he should be charged with a crime.

    Im blown away how everyone is cool with the federal government forcible committing this person to a mental facility....because of a facebook posting. Not because his family or friends called...but because of a facebook posting.
    Never said I was cool with it. Just that it wasn't very smart on his part, for all his insider info he's pretty unaware of data mining practices I guess.
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    Originally Posted by markymark69 View Post
    This is disturbing. The guy is 'detained' for mental evaluation due to facebook posts?

    I've seen far worse from half the posters in this section alone.
    Lol this. Surprised voodoo isnt in a FEMA camp for the rest of his life from what he posts on here.
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    Originally Posted by DennisR1977 View Post
    A restraining order from who exactly? Just stop posting, no one cares about your tinfoil hat bull****.
    STFU you stupid lemming fuk. Tinfoil is you believing the bedtime story of Ali Baba Laden and His 19 Hijackers. Worse, you see your stupidity as a virtue. You are the kind of dumbass who makes people hate Americans. POS.
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    Originally Posted by markymark69 View Post
    I could understand if the family called the police out of concern for his mental well being. That wasnt the case. It was the FBI that invoked 37.2-808


    You guys should be extremely wary of the federal government having people forcible committed to a mental rehab facility....but you are not. I truly do not get it.
    Probably because you're a little dumb.
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    STFU you stupid lemming fuk. Tinfoil is you believing the bedtime story of Ali Baba Laden and His 19 Hijackers. Worse, you see your stupidity as a virtue. You are the kind of dumbass who makes people hate Americans. POS.
    im pretty sure the people that make people hate Americans are the crazy little men who see government operatives around every corner.
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    Laughed hysterically at the part about Bush having a cabin somewhere and sacrificing children.
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    Originally Posted by flairon View Post
    im pretty sure the people that make people hate Americans are the crazy little men who see government operatives around every corner.
    LOL bet I'm bigger than you brah.
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    Originally Posted by Spartaa View Post
    ^^ lol yea dude went retarded
    Notice he says he BELIEVES Bush has a secret castle where he rapes and sacrifices children. He believes. In other words, the voices in his head told him so.

    Thank god this crazy phaggot was arrested.
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    Marine obviously went full retard, but I agree with Marky - getting locked up for a facebook post is deeply troubling. I would never want to see any of our fellow posters locked up, no matter how... offbeat...
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