Layne Norton saying IF is bad and that meal timing is RELEVANT (srs)

[repthefruity]

“One problem with IF for people who are looking to optimize muscle mass is that fasting decreases protein synthesis significantly and you cannot simply make up for a lack of protein throughout the day by overconsuming it at a few others. There is a cap on the effective dose of protein to stimulate muscle anabolism and above that you are really getting no added benefit. One of the experiments we did for my PhD thesis (which we are currently in the process of attempting to publish) actually examined protein distribution and found exactly what we suspected… that eating low protein early in the day could not be made up for by eating a very large protein meal later in the day. After 11 weeks the subjects eating unevenly distributed protein intake actually had smaller muscles than subjects fed relatively equal doses of protein. I personally believe that many of the fat loss benefits of IF can be had consuming protein only meals throughout the day and then just bolusing intermittent carb intake rather than just all out fasting.”

[minimoogle]

Too bad this only applies to IFers that fast 2-3x a week for 24hrs at a time.... i.e. nobody.....

I personally believe that many of the fat loss benefits of IF can be had consuming protein only meals throughout the day and then just bolusing intermittent carb intake rather than just all out fasting.”

This is effectively equivalent to a 16/8 fast, which I bet 95% of people do....

[Jack3dSparrow]

Layne is old and has swiftly become outdated. Move along Layne, with your lame ass cyber relationship with that skinny rake.

[BionicBrah]

brb getting results, when that stops then i'll consider something else

[HighRolluh]

16/8 schedule schits on evey other diet and anti-IF *******

[poundfive2]

too bad when doing IF u dont eat all ur food in one sitting. u do it over an 8 hour period.

but i dont really do IF, i just dont eat in the morning.. i still dont really agree though.

[MacDaddy68]

Layne is old and has swiftly become outdated. Move along Layne, with your lame ass cyber relationship with that skinny rake.

wat

[AleFCP]

Lol at that drug addict

[Dave P]

notsureifserious at all the Layne smack talk in this thread.

[ace_gauntlit]

Layne is old and has swiftly become outdated. Move along Layne, with your lame ass cyber relationship with that skinny rake.

he has a PhD and makes a living out of lifting and nutrition
you have no avi and talk **** about him on a bodybuilding forum

Who's the loser again?

[waveup]

Yes, you have to eat 6 meals a day. If you can't eat 6 meals, no problem kiddies! Just save up your lunch money and buy Layne's supplement stack http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layn...ion-stack.html

Remember, Layne knows what's best for you. He has your best interests at mind and would never lie to you. Those silly supplement companies that sponsor him mean nothing to him.

Just work hard, and buy Layne's supplements and you can look just like him! No celltech needed.

If you think Layne's supplements are too expensive, ask yourself, WILL YOU SACRIFICE TO WIN?

[WhatDidYouDo]

Buh bey beh

[Starred]

I agree with layne Norton.

[Jagd24]

Yes, you have to eat 6 meals a day. If you can't eat 6 meals, no problem kiddies! Just save up your lunch money and buy Layne's supplement stack http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layn...ion-stack.html

Remember, Layne knows what's best for you. He has your best interests at mind and would never lie to you. Those silly supplement companies that sponsor him mean nothing to him.

Just work hard, and buy Layne's supplements and you can look just like him! No celltech needed.

If you think Layne's supplements are too expensive, ask yourself, WILL YOU SACRIFICE TO WIN?

Where was anything about supplements mentioned?

[bornfrompain]

i'm a huge layne fan and admire his attitude, work ethic, routine, etc...but this I disagree with.

I've seen no negative impact by doing leangains/fasting, but only a positive one when it comes to fat loss and muscle building

[bodybuilder89]

He gets better results without IF due to roids

[ShadowBarkley]

“One problem with IF for people who are looking to optimize muscle mass is that fasting decreases protein synthesis significantly and you cannot simply make up for a lack of protein throughout the day by overconsuming it at a few others. There is a cap on the effective dose of protein to stimulate muscle anabolism and above that you are really getting no added benefit. One of the experiments we did for my PhD thesis (which we are currently in the process of attempting to publish) actually examined protein distribution and found exactly what we suspected… that eating low protein early in the day could not be made up for by eating a very large protein meal later in the day. After 11 weeks the subjects eating unevenly distributed protein intake actually had smaller muscles than subjects fed relatively equal doses of protein. I personally believe that many of the fat loss benefits of IF can be had consuming protein only meals throughout the day and then just bolusing intermittent carb intake rather than just all out fasting.”

That sounds like an opinion to me.

[illriginalized]

Well I guess Layne Norton is starting to lose his credibility now.


BRB dropping fat, keeping lean mass, and strength looking jooocy, brahs.

By the way.. IF actually helps massively with absorption.. even the juice heads are claiming they can use lesser dosage and still get great gains.

[Jack3dSparrow]

he has a PhD and makes a living out of lifting and nutrition
you have no avi and talk **** about him on a bodybuilding forum

Who's the loser again?

Apparently Layne's phucking mother, but what do I know huh?

[TotalGymFreak]

Apparently Layne's phucking mother, but what do I know huh?

Lol @ IF
BRB depedant on stimulants because no energy
Brb no energy
Brb coffee is vital to staying awake
Brb no energy
Brb become addicted to stimulants
Brb no energy lol
Brb BCAAs all day erryday

[repthefruity]

Lol @ IF
BRB depedant on stimulants because no energy
Brb no energy
Brb coffee is vital to staying awake
Brb no energy
Brb become addicted to stimulants
Brb no energy lol
Brb BCAAs all day erryday

6'1 181 lbs^

[Italian.Muscle]

When I IF i get stronger and cut bodyfat quick srs.

Plus **** sitting down eating 6+ meals every 1-2 hours. I dont have time for that sh*t. Who really wants to or can cook and clean and eat 6 goddam times a day besides pros like Layne.

Eat 1-2x a day and you stuff your dam face and be satisfied. IF FTW

[pablocai]

inb4 layne

[QT]

Lol @ IF
BRB depedant on stimulants because no energy
Brb no energy
Brb coffee is vital to staying awake
Brb no energy
Brb become addicted to stimulants
Brb no energy lol
Brb BCAAs all day erryday

wtf are you talking about.

Brb more energy than ever
Brb only 10g BCAA pre w on WO days (40g a week). It's also cheap as hell.
Brb no more coffee than usual. No needed because of the sick amount of energy.
Brb insane mental clarity (period without food stimulates brain cell production)
Brb fat dropping
Brb strength increasing and muscles grow

[TheAdlerian]

Well I guess Layne Norton is starting to lose his credibility now.


BRB dropping fat, keeping lean mass, and strength looking jooocy, brahs.

By the way.. IF actually helps massively with absorption.. even the juice heads are claiming they can use lesser dosage and still get great gains.

This.

It is the best thing I've tried in decades.

The second is high dose fish oil.

IF is the way to get lean, muscular, and satisfied while still being a normal person eating normal foods.

Also, I think the fast is a great form of mental discipline.

[MrBrosephStalin]

Well he used the word optimal, possibly meaning IF is not the optimal meal timing compared to traditional spread out meals but that doesn't mean you won't see gains similar to a traditional bodybuilding diet. So if you were going to compete you would use a traditional diet layout to get the greatest effect and get the extra edge, whereas IF is fine for bodybuilding as a hobby and the diet isn't as good for those competing but that doesn't mean it isn't just 1% more beneficent. Or I could be completely wrong. I don't know PM him he mods here lol.

[artDDP]

In for discussion of this. Interested in IF. This month's Muscle & Fitness actually has an article touting it.

[bornfrompain]

Lol @ IF
BRB depedant on stimulants because no energy
Brb no energy
Brb coffee is vital to staying awake
Brb no energy
Brb become addicted to stimulants
Brb no energy lol
Brb BCAAs all day erryday

[MrStinky]

Tim Ferris would say otherwise... Check out "The 4 Hour Body"

[BlazerXX]

taking notes in trapperkeeper for broscience class