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    In after 6 pages of overly specific wrongness (unless someone said what I'm about to already).

    Most people are not in tune with their goals to a specific enough level. They come online and find workout programs and diets that a stranger says are good, but they don't apply to what they want out of their bodies and they have no clue if the diets work for them because they don't know their metabolic type.
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    Originally Posted by tChar23 View Post
    Not warming up enough before lifting. I see guys come in and their very first set for the day is 225lb bench, and the most they even get up to is like 275... That's hardly warming up the muscle at all it's just like alright chest, deal with it.
    I know, right? I personally live by this motto; "Train your chest like you're mad at it, not angry WITH it."
    I don't neg.
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    Originally Posted by jstndvs View Post
    Eh.. still not efficient for weight routine, but if it works for you its all good. 45 min-1hr tops for just about any weight routine IMO should be plenty with the right intensity. And yes, squats can cause you to eff up your knees if you do not warm up, use improper form, or any number of other circumstances that may occur. I think injuries can be prevented on squats, but not by avoiding the exercise, but preparing your body for doing the exercise properly.
    thats broscience.

    those cortizone studies were done on marathon runners. ask layne norton...

    nothing wrong with 2 hour-2.5 hour workout. personal presence. (only my upper power day is 2-2.5 hours long in the gym...)

    other days 1.5 hours.
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    Not following Mike Mentzer's heavy duty training. Srs.

    brb more time to pursue other interests
    brb don't have to consume stupid amounts of food
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    Lack of knowledge or being uneducated


    Pretty much encompasses improper form, lifting technique, routine choice, nutrition, supplementation, etc etc


    More specifically though, Nutrition is for sure the #1 thing most people do wrong or miss the mark on.... sacrificing form for weight is another popular one I always see
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    Number 1 thing is definitely quitting. How many times to you see people go spend $200 at GNC, another $200 getting trendy UA clothes, going to the gym for 2 months and then stopping? Pretty much all my friends. As long as you keep lifting and stay with it, all the other stuff will come. Eventually you'll start to realize what you're doing right/wrong, you'll start to get your diet in check a little, and know what works for you and what doesn't, just because it's such a big part of your life, since you kept at it and didn't quit.

    Everything else besides quitting will just hinder and slow your gains, but with quitting, you'll get nothing.
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    Originally Posted by NorrisSWAG View Post
    That variable will be our body of course but i dont agree with your "we really dont have a clue what the ideal anything is" . There are certain parameters set for bodybuilding so we do have some sort of clue of what we need to eat, intake, in our bodies in order to ASSIST our muscle growth but yeah some people are different. i know someone who eats one meal a day (junk food) and worksout and has a body like a beast and i know someone who has been working out for the past 3 years and cant lose his gut ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    there are certain things that are set in stone... like protein is required...but saying atg squats WILL injure your knees is simply false as far as our current knowledge goes. now that second part of your post, well, is just a flat out exaggeration/lie

    Originally Posted by Jelet View Post
    thats broscience.

    those cortizone studies were done on marathon runners. ask layne norton...

    nothing wrong with 2 hour-2.5 hour workout. personal presence. (only my upper power day is 2-2.5 hours long in the gym...)

    other days 1.5 hours.
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    for me, the hardest part about lifting weights is leaving the gym when my workout is finished. I keep checking my log book but it keeps telling me that it's the last set. even worse, tomorrow is rest day. fml
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    Originally Posted by McNuggets View Post
    squatting in the curl rack
    LOL!!
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/17...-a-squat-rack/

    "how do curl in a squat rack"
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    Originally Posted by Jelet View Post
    thats broscience.

    those cortizone studies were done on marathon runners. ask layne norton...

    nothing wrong with 2 hour-2.5 hour workout. personal presence. (only my upper power day is 2-2.5 hours long in the gym...)

    other days 1.5 hours.
    Could have swore i said inefficient. If you can't get in and get your workout finished in an hour or so you're probably wasting too much damn time. When i started 14 years ago, i had nothing better to do but stay in the gym for hours and hours and i got results for maybe a year, but just stayed a scrawny little shat. When you get your crap together, have a plan, go in and get your crap done with the proper amount of intensity, you don't need hours and hours to get your workout finished. If you want to spend half your day hanging out in the gym, that's fine, but its not effiecient.

    I love how 20-21 year old kids that have been lifting seriously for about a year always throw out the "broscience" card. Its what has been working for decades and decades. One or two studies in the past year or two aren't going to change my opinions about most stuff. And when i stop making gains off my 45 min workouts, i may start spending hours and hours in the gym, but until then, i have other things to do besides hang out in the locker room or by the water fountain.
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    Originally Posted by jstndvs View Post
    Could have swore i said inefficient. If you can't get in and get your workout finished in an hour or so you're probably wasting too much damn time. When i started 14 years ago, i had nothing better to do but stay in the gym for hours and hours and i got results for maybe a year, but just stayed a scrawny little shat. When you get your crap together, have a plan, go in and get your crap done with the proper amount of intensity, you don't need hours and hours to get your workout finished. If you want to spend half your day hanging out in the gym, that's fine, but its not effiecient.
    i hope your avi and stats arent updated.

    how do you know that they are inefficient? do you have any proof other than what SOME people SAY?
    for me, the hardest part about lifting weights is leaving the gym when my workout is finished. I keep checking my log book but it keeps telling me that it's the last set. even worse, tomorrow is rest day. fml
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    Originally Posted by Keenl3ody View Post
    i hope your avi and stats arent updated.

    how do you know that they are inefficient? do you have any proof other than what SOME people SAY?
    Decades and decades of proof. Go ahead and throw out one or two studies where it says optimal growth comes from 2-2.5 hour weight routines.
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    Originally Posted by Keenl3ody View Post
    i hope your avi and stats arent updated
    Dude... nice arms. Where's your bicep?
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    Originally Posted by RyanFaro View Post
    strong broscience, diet is the ticket, not cardio.
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    Ur doing it wrong man. The ideal workout is not longer that 60 minutes.
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    Squatting ATG is overrated and can fukk up your knees. Going parallel is enough.
    these, especially then 60 minute one. brb spending 2 hours in the gym but either being to tired to do anything or resting 6-7 minutes in between sets, either way wasting time. Plus I've heard from many places and many friends who are actually contest bodybuilders (I don't have scientific proof though, so I can't guarantee anything) that working out for longer then an hour can severely reduce test levels.
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    Originally Posted by Dudewhut View Post
    well just misc mostly





    these, especially then 60 minute one. brb spending 2 hours in the gym but either being to tired to do anything or resting 6-7 minutes in between sets, either way wasting time. Plus I've heard from many places and many friends who are actually contest bodybuilders (I don't have scientific proof though, so I can't guarantee anything) that working out for longer then an hour can severely reduce test levels.
    stop putting broscience in a #1 mistake thread... that defeats the purpose of this thread.

    talk to layne norton, and see what he says...

    hell talk to josef rakich.

    stop spitting broscience.


    and most competitive bodybuilders are complete morons. they are nothing without there juice. they think u cant have carbs and fat in a meal or ur gonna get fat. and other broscience.
    talk to me when u go from 85lb dumbbell chest press to 110lb chest dumbbell press in 4 months.
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    Could have swore i said inefficient. If you can't get in and get your workout finished in an hour or so you're probably wasting too much damn time. When i started 14 years ago, i had nothing better to do but stay in the gym for hours and hours and i got results for maybe a year, but just stayed a scrawny little shat. When you get your crap together, have a plan, go in and get your crap done with the proper amount of intensity, you don't need hours and hours to get your workout finished. If you want to spend half your day hanging out in the gym, that's fine, but its not effiecient.

    I love how 20-21 year old kids that have been lifting seriously for about a year always throw out the "broscience" card. Its what has been working for decades and decades. One or two studies in the past year or two aren't going to change my opinions about most stuff. And when i stop making gains off my 45 min workouts, i may start spending hours and hours in the gym, but until then, i have other things to do besides hang out in the locker room or by the water fountain.
    keep disrespecting me. go ahead. keep disrespecting me. why dont u private message josef rakich and ask him what he thinks of working out for 2 hours.

    hell his routine is on simply shredded.

    why dont you talk to layne norton.. and ask him what he thinks.

    why dont u talk to me ?






    oh let me guess.
    josef rakich is not natty. and layne norton is not natty. and either am i.

    when we are natty.

    dude u dont know sh!t. enjoy ur 45 min workouts while we enjoy our long workouts and blow away all u little fks!!!!



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    Lack of knowledge or being uneducated


    Pretty much encompasses improper form, lifting technique, routine choice, nutrition, supplementation, etc etc


    More specifically though, Nutrition is for sure the #1 thing most people do wrong or miss the mark on.... sacrificing form for weight is another popular one I always see
    Totally with you on Nutrition, I think that is the number 1 thing and its not even close.

    However, aslong as you are not injuring yourself perfect form is massively overrated. While it may have worked for you its not going to work for all. I saw my arm development stagnate for a long time while I was stuck curling 95lbs for 8-12reps. Eventually I said fukk it and scrapped form for a bit, moved up to a plate in about 3 months. My arms also grew a half inch in those 3 months.
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    blaming genetics for lack of progress the #1 mistake.

    most people who do this won't amount to anything anyway, so no loss.
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    Originally Posted by LegosInMyEgos View Post
    blaming genetics for lack of progress the #1 mistake.

    most people who do this won't amount to anything anyway, so no loss.
    The only way I can get your sweet sexy head of jew fro is by getting a wig or letting my hair grow out long and getting a perm, damn my genetics to hell.
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