Obtaining Raw Elite at 165/181

[Filmbuff81]

No worries I have to keep working on my form all the time.

Also your form is better evaluate your hips are way lower.

You might sacrifice a few pounds, but you could do a clean style Deadlift.

[goosefrabbas]

hmmm.

[xRequiem]

hmmm.

wutt?

think im finally starting to understand hwo to pull conventional. was trying to mimick the advice received while picking **** up at work haha

[GinjaNinja85]

If your thinking of switching programs in the next few weeks jump on Texas Method with me

[xRequiem]

If your thinking of switching programs in the next few weeks jump on Texas Method with me

i was actually considering it, going to do a week or two of daily progression to get my squat back to where it was then do TM. i need to quit getting my panties in a knot when I dont progress one week. if i miss a rep I almost always change programs.

[GinjaNinja85]

i was actually considering it, going to do a week or two of daily progression to get my squat back to where it was then do TM. i need to quit getting my panties in a knot when I dont progress one week. if i miss a rep I almost always change programs.

Well if we're both doing it I'll do my damndest to talk you out of it! How's that for accountability?

[xRequiem]

Well if we're both doing it I'll do my damndest to talk you out of it! How's that for accountability?

That would be awesome haha. Both of my IRL friends have practically given up. We all started off on SS together at slightly different times.

[samsont]

i was actually considering it, going to do a week or two of daily progression to get my squat back to where it was then do TM. i need to quit getting my panties in a knot when I dont progress one week. if i miss a rep I almost always change programs.

you need to tailor programs to yourself, not conform yourself to a program you don;t fully 100% agree with. you gotta know when and how to make adjustments, not robotically try to follow a rep/set scheme and then jump ship when you can't complete the reps (which is probably because you set your max too high... submaximal is the way to start programming..)

[GinjaNinja85]

That would be awesome haha. Both of my IRL friends have practically given up. We all started off on SS together at slightly different times.

I have given up trying to get my mates in the gym. It takes an obsessed depraved type of man to squat and deadlift themselves into oblivion lol.

Well if you wanna do possibly the best program around for increasing your squat, just let me know. I'll be making the switch from GSLP in the next few weeks and it'd be awesome to have someone start at the same time.

[Filmbuff81]

you need to tailor programs to yourself, not conform yourself to a program you don;t fully 100% agree with. You gotta know when and how to make adjustments, not robotically try to follow a rep/set scheme and then jump ship when you can't complete the reps (which is probably because you set your max too high... Submaximal is the way to start programming..)

every word of this.

[xRequiem]

****e sorry balls **** terrible day

Squats
225x3
275x2 - way too hard
275x2 - widened stance
225 3x5 still hard

Bench
185 2x3 paused
185x5 tng

Rows too hard.

****ing miserable day at the gym. Going to completely deload my squats. not sure what messed em up so bad. Likely a combination of squatting in a suit, using wraps for all sets and running Sheiko. Seems like anytime I stray from SS I get weak as ****. Time to attempt to bulk again. Or at least not eat so little.

Deloading my squats and deads to 225.

[samsont]

maybe you need a real deload, if 275 was hard for a double, 225 is not deloading in my opinion. maybe do some light light stuff or take a whole week off. sometimes - less is more.

[GinjaNinja85]

Sh!t happens mate, we all have bad days. I read a blog called Lift Run Bang and the guy who writes it, Paul Carter, is a decent powerlifter. He only trains in suits, wraps and shirts in the week or 2 before a meet as training equipped doesn't increase your raw strength. Raw training FTW.

[Filmbuff81]

Take a full week off or do REALLY light work.

You will be not be over sheiko after just a couple days.

You are still building volume and inducing fatigue doing what you are doing.

[pyaarawala]

How many times have you failed squats/deads? What is your program's protocol for deloading? That's weird just the other day when I posted in your thread you seemed to be kicking ass and now all of a sudden you're feeling so weak and considering changing programs.

I feel you on the frustration though. When you can't lift the weight you could before and just plan to deload a ****load of weight. If you haven't failed more than once on the same weight then I'd try it again. Good luck man and you're mad strong you could do it.

[xRequiem]

Sumo Deads
315x1
365x1
405x1
475x0
425x0
315x0 lololol

OHP
115x5
115x5
115x10 pr

CGBP
115 4x8 all paused slow negatives

decided conventional isn't for me. my back still aches and I just can't get into position. might be scoliosis, might be horrible flexibility but it's probably just excuses. so I decided to work on my sumo form, seems a lot of the guys have an extremely wide stance. so I tested it out. the rom is much shorter but getting into position is a bit awkward. 405x1 was very very very easy. i'll be hitting prs very soon, prolly start at 365x3 and work up adding 10lbs a session.

also time for dat bulk to 190ish

this is the stance im going for

[Filmbuff81]

Why don't you reset to a certain point that makes progression easier?

Why start at a heavy triple when you could start at a moderate 5 and give yourself some room to grow.

Starting too heavy will just yield more problems like right now.

[xRequiem]

365x3 is 45lbs below my best 5rm. did 410x5 a few months ago so I thought 365 was pretty conservative. too lazy for 5s lol

[Filmbuff81]

Jesus I must be dyslexic lol.

I thought it said 395x3.

Carry-on lol.

[xRequiem]

Jesus I must be dyslexic lol.

I thought it said 395x3.

Carry-on lol.

haha you made me say "wuut" out loud.

yeah I just did 365 5x3 so its definitely conservative.

[xRequiem]

breakfast
supper

[BrutalBergstrom]

that looked easy!

awesome foodz

[xRequiem]

thanks mate

Squats
255 3x5

Bench
190 2x3 Paused
190x8 tng probably a rep pr

BB Rows
155 3x5

chins
flies
back extensions
abz

BW 173

Squats were really easy. Probably could have hit 10+ reps on the final set, but I don't feel like AMARP on squats especially since my knee is bugging me. Surprised myself on bench that 8th rep was the hardest rep I've ever completed. I actually gave up on it and was lowering the weight to do the roll of shame and said **** it and started pushing again and completed it haha. **** probably took 10 seconds

Everything else great good besides from being tired from work. +10lbs a session on squats til I get up to 300ish then I'll probably start TM

[GinjaNinja85]

+10lbs a session on squats til I get up to 300ish then I'll probably start TM

Yeah man let's do this

[xRequiem]

Yeah man let's do this

im ready, just disappointing that I probably won't hit any squat prs for the remainder of the year. might be able to hit a 1rm if I gain enough weight.

[GinjaNinja85]

im ready, just disappointing that I probably won't hit any squat prs for the remainder of the year. might be able to hit a 1rm if I gain enough weight.

Why not? Can't you shoot for a PR after a couple of weeks of TM? Are we talking raw or equipped?

[xRequiem]

Why not? Can't you shoot for a PR after a couple of weeks of TM? Are we talking raw or equipped?

Well I did 255 3x5 yesterday. It was pretty easy but my best 5rm was 340 and I think im far from hitting that again. B December I should be up to 300 3x5. Willl probably do VD at 285 and ID at 315. So by the end of december I'll be at about 335x5.

[GinjaNinja85]

Well I did 255 3x5 yesterday. It was pretty easy but my best 5rm was 340 and I think im far from hitting that again. B December I should be up to 300 3x5. Willl probably do VD at 285 and ID at 315. So by the end of december I'll be at about 335x5.

Fair enough. Why such a big drop off in strength? When did you set that PR? I thought you had been quite consistent.

Your VD weight there is 90.5% of your ID. That's quite high. Apparentely ~85% is good to start with and should drive progress just fine, but I guess it depends on how hard you want to work. I wanna do the least amount possible to get stronger.

Edit: In the TM ebook, he says to start your VD at around 90% of your 3x5. Start it with ramped sets in your first week around that 90% mark and pick a weight from those sets that feels decently challenging to use for straight sets in your 2nd week if that makes sense. Puts your first week at more like 260,265,270,275,280. Then week 2 might be 270x5.

[xRequiem]

Sheiko and using a squat suit made my raw squat a lot weaker. I should be up to par pretty soon though. 270 5x5 seems easy lol. First time I started TM I did something like 305 5x5. Probably why I never made a single pr though.

340x5 happened back in my SS days prolly around May or June. Thanks for the info, I'll try to start at 85%. I'm clueless as to where my 5RM is atm. I hit 335x5 2 months ago but I used loose knee wraps.

[samsont]

I have a hard time believing that short run of shieko made you weaker, I just read missed lifts and it seems you always start programming a bit high.. Start with lower % of 1rm and have a few light weeks, and you'll probably be stronger for it.