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    Best pre workout for acne prone skin (brahs with acne GTFIH)

    Anyone got ideas for a pre workout not likely to cause a break out? I've tried NO xplode, neurocore, assault, jack3d and craze, they all made me spottier than a dalmatian's a$$. Any particular brand that didn't make you break out if you're prone to this kinda thing? Stopped my last jug of neurocore about a month ago and training is seriously suffering without the kick it gave it.

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    Don't know man. Acne has been a chronic problem with me since I was 12, but I never noticed my acne flare up on pre-workouts. But such things are hormonal so everyone is different. What works for you might not work for some one else and vice-versa.

    From what I've noticed my acne flares up depending on how crappy my diet is. If I mostly eat junk food it gets bad. That's why I keep it to a minimum.

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    Originally Posted by Kadisha View Post
    Don't know man. Acne has been a chronic problem with me since I was 12, but I never noticed my acne flare up on pre-workouts. But such things are hormonal so everyone is different. What works for you might not work for some one else and vice-versa.

    From what I've noticed my acne flares up depending on how crappy my diet is. If I mostly eat junk food it gets bad. That's why I keep it to a minimum.

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    I feel ya brah, mine started when I was 12 too. My breakouts always seemed random but when I looked real close it seemed to always coincide with taking the pre workouts. Tried a local brand the other week and woke up with a fuk load on my shoulder next morning. Thanks for the advice man, have my measly reps :-)
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    Not sure of your age, but you could be experiencing androgen induced inflammation leading to your breakouts.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Not sure of your age, but you could be experiencing androgen induced inflammation leading to your breakouts.
    19 bro. Any advice as to how to stop this?
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    Originally Posted by demtrapz View Post
    19 bro. Any advice as to how to stop this?
    It's called puberty man, haha. Nothing you want to stop. Go to your doctor/dermatologist asking about oral anti-inflammatories/anti-biotics in combination with a topical cream such as epiduo.
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    16 year old brah here who knows a thing or two about acne....

    Have you thought it may be the artificial sweeteners? They give me a headache so I don't take supps with them. I make my own preworkout that's unsweetened so I can avoid them.

    I know that can be a trigger for some people. Maybe something to consiter
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    It's likely not the preworkout. Are you showering after you workout, putting on fresh clothes, etc?
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    It's called puberty man, haha. Nothing you want to stop. Go to your doctor/dermatologist asking about oral anti-inflammatories/anti-biotics in combination with a topical cream such as epiduo.
    Was on lymacycline for 2 years and been on oxytetracycline for 3 months bro, derm said he'd give me the tane in a month if I'm not clear by then.Thanks for the advice though man

    Originally Posted by rocket999 View Post
    16 year old brah here who knows a thing or two about acne....

    Have you thought it may be the artificial sweeteners? They give me a headache so I don't take supps with them. I make my own preworkout that's unsweetened so I can avoid them.

    I know that can be a trigger for some people. Maybe something to consiter
    Def something I will look into. Thanks bro, reps

    Originally Posted by TheGilmore View Post
    It's likely not the preworkout. Are you showering after you workout, putting on fresh clothes, etc?
    Yeah man I shower 3x a day, use clean and clear cleaser with salicylic acid and 5% benzoyl peroxide w/moisturizer.
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    Having a good diet (cut out fast foods) along with what you're already doing (showering after getting sweaty, using face wash with salicyclic acid) goes a very long ways toward reducing acne. Changing your pillow cover frequently can also help as well. I've never noticed any preworkout making me break out moreso than another...
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    Originally Posted by ISurfNudeBrah View Post
    Having a good diet (cut out fast foods) along with what you're already doing (showering after getting sweaty, using face wash with salicyclic acid) goes a very long ways toward reducing acne. Changing your pillow cover frequently can also help as well. I've never noticed any preworkout making me break out moreso than another...
    But as a whole you do think they break you out though?
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    If by "the tane" you are referring to accutane, I would avoid it, or at least throughly research it before you decide. I know here in Maine, only one dermatologist in the entire state (yes, there are more than a few here ) still keeps a license to prescribe accutane.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    If by "the tane" you are referring to accutane, I would avoid it, or at least throughly research it before you decide. I know here in Maine, only one dermatologist in the entire state (yes, there are more than a few here ) still keeps a license to prescribe accutane.
    Yeah man that's the one I mean. We were talking about trying 10mg/day but I'm real nervous having seen the list of sides and researched the potential dangers of it. Sometimes I feel like I can face it and other days I feel so awful about it that I reckon it's worth the risk. Still undecided though
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    10mg would be quite the low dosage. With that, your un the risk of acne either not clearing completely and/or returning.
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    Shower BEFORE bed (washing face and hair obviously) and WASH YOUR PILLOW CASE every 3 days or so
    Start taking Pantothenic Acid
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    Some people react adversely to the salicylic acid/benzoyl peroxide bit. What soap are you using? Joak recommended this stuff to me, and it's been working pretty well. Everything else just dries me up, which can make the acne worse. ESPECIALLY if you're showering thrice daily.

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    Originally Posted by demtrapz View Post
    Anyone got ideas for a pre workout not likely to cause a break out? I've tried NO xplode, neurocore, assault, jack3d and craze, they all made me spottier than a dalmatian's a$$. Any particular brand that didn't make you break out if you're prone to this kinda thing? Stopped my last jug of neurocore about a month ago and training is seriously suffering without the kick it gave it.
    Far as i'm aware there is no clear link to certain foods causing acne, but most people swear by it & doctors tell you as a precautionary to just avoid the food that you feel is causing it. A few things i helped when i had mild acne was
    1) don't shower so much, 3x a day is ridiculous & will dry out your skin.
    2) drink plenty of water, eat as much whole foods as possible (ie lots of fruit/veg) & avoid processed crap where possible. I noticed quite a clear up when i went vegetarian, however this if anything was likely to the huge increase of fruit & veg as opposed to meat itself causing acne.
    3) wash your face with some warm water & a soap. I'd look into using something a bit less heavy on the chemicals (ie body shop stuff), and use ex foliating gloves to GENTLY scrub your face + apply moisturiser etc if after the shower.

    A lot of it is probably just puberty but hopefully some of the tips above can help. The ex foliating gloves were a lifesaver for me though make sure you clean them as they are a breeding ground for bacteria if left soggy sitting in the corner of your bathroom.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    10mg would be quite the low dosage. With that, your un the risk of acne either not clearing completely and/or returning.
    There were a few studies I found (will refind and post links) into low dose accutane and its effect on moderate acne; the benefits were good with minimal sides. Agreed with you on the relapse thing, it was just the crohns/IBS/hair loss potential on higher doses that scared the fwarq out of me.

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    Low-dose isotretinoin (regimens)

    Conventional low-dose therapy [Table 1], [Flow Chart 1]-[Additional file 1]

    Low-dose isotretinoin has been used to treat acne by various authors. [4],[7],[8],[9],[12],[14],[15],[17],[18],[19] in various doses, like daily, [7],[17],[18] intermittent therapy, [4],[12],[18] alternate day therapy [19] or gradually increasing the daily dose. [5] As there is marked heterogeneity in these regimens, a more logical way is to compare them on the basis of dose per day (mg/kg/day), which ranges from 0.14 mg/ kg/day to 0.75 mg/kg/day. [4],[7],[8],[9],[10],[12],[14],[15],[17],[18],[19] Except for one study, [12] low-dose isotretinoin was uniformally of a dose less than 0.5 mg/kg/day.

    A different approach is the use of low-dose isotretinon in a micronized form, which pharmacologically has a similar efficacy to the conventional standard regimen of 1 mg/kg/day. This entailed the use of a formulation of micronized isotretinoin [17] in a single dose of 0.4 mg/kg/day isotretinoin regimen, which had been found to be of similar efficacy to the standard regimen of 1 mg/kg/day.

    Micro/mini dose [Table 2]

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    Another special scenario is a very small number of patients who suffer from acne even in the sixth and seventh decades. [5] These are patients of persisting acne and have often received multiple courses of antibiotics over many years. Nine patients were treated with oral isotretinoin 0.25 mg/kg per day for 6 months; in six, the acne had virtually cleared by 3-4 months while in the other three it cleared by 6 months. On stopping the therapy after 36 months, the patients remained clear of acne except for one who relapsed after 11 months. [5]

    Originally Posted by AZPump View Post
    Things that can help:

    Shower BEFORE bed (washing face and hair obviously) and WASH YOUR PILLOW CASE every 3 days or so
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    I tried pantothenic acid a while back. How long did it take before you saw a difference? I did like 3 bottles of it on 10g a day and didn't see anything, plus over here in the uk that **** is kinda expensive if it ain't working.

    Originally Posted by TheGilmore View Post
    Some people react adversely to the salicylic acid/benzoyl peroxide bit. What soap are you using? Joak recommended this stuff to me, and it's been working pretty well. Everything else just dries me up, which can make the acne worse. ESPECIALLY if you're showering thrice daily.
    Simple kind to skin moisturizing wash and shower gel, the one with 4 ingredients in. Funnily enough I don't actually have it on my face; I get like one pimple on my face every few months, it's my shoulders/back/chest/arms that are covered in them. Will try and find some of that at the chemist and leave the bp/sl acid for a bit and see what happens. Thanks brah

    Originally Posted by motiva8 View Post
    Far as i'm aware there is no clear link to certain foods causing acne, but most people swear by it & doctors tell you as a precautionary to just avoid the food that you feel is causing it. A few things i helped when i had mild acne was
    1) don't shower so much, 3x a day is ridiculous & will dry out your skin.
    2) drink plenty of water, eat as much whole foods as possible (ie lots of fruit/veg) & avoid processed crap where possible. I noticed quite a clear up when i went vegetarian, however this if anything was likely to the huge increase of fruit & veg as opposed to meat itself causing acne.
    3) wash your face with some warm water & a soap. I'd look into using something a bit less heavy on the chemicals (ie body shop stuff), and use ex foliating gloves to GENTLY scrub your face + apply moisturiser etc if after the shower.

    A lot of it is probably just puberty but hopefully some of the tips above can help. The ex foliating gloves were a lifesaver for me though make sure you clean them as they are a breeding ground for bacteria if left soggy sitting in the corner of your bathroom.
    Those exfoliating gloves are something I definitely need to look into. Thanks a lot man. Reps to all/reps on r/c when I can
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    Originally Posted by demtrapz View Post
    But as a whole you do think they break you out though?
    No

    I'd stay away from accutane unless you have horrible pizza face and it's rly ruining you life. I've heard several horror stories from using it.
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    Originally Posted by demtrapz View Post

    I tried pantothenic acid a while back. How long did it take before you saw a difference? I did like 3 bottles of it on 10g a day and didn't see anything, plus over here in the uk that **** is kinda expensive if it ain't working.
    I honestly don't remember how long it took. I just remember that it helped. It also helps a lot when I cycle a PH. With that being said, if you were doing 10g a day with no results, then I would say forget about that option.

    Just stick it out for the time being.. Puberty is what it is.. Keep your face and diet clean. Change pillow cases often and consider seeing a dermatologist. Good luck man.

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    I can attest to the fact that for some people, bulking (eating excess food) will cause acne. I'm not entirely sure whether it is because of the increased number of cheat foods or the extra calories, probably a mix, but I've noticed that I always breakout 5x more when I'm on a calorie surplus. Experiencing it right now, feelsbatman
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    I found that I brokeout more when I used the **** the derm gave me. Right now I'm just washing my face twice a day, and using a zinc spot treatment and i'm pretty clear. I'd say that you are using way to much chemicals for your face, and due to this its making it worse.
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    Originally Posted by AZPump View Post
    PS!! DID NOT MEAN TO NEG YOU!! WAS TRYING TO REP YOU.. STANDBY, I'LL GET IT FIXED!!
    Should be better now Called on some friends to help fix that mistake..
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    Originally Posted by AZPump View Post
    Should be better now Called on some friends to help fix that mistake..
    +rep me to atone for your mistake.
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    Yeah man I shower 3x a day
    Could be dryin your skin out too much causing irritation and leading to acne?
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    Originally Posted by demtrapz View Post
    Anyone got ideas for a pre workout not likely to cause a break out? I've tried NO xplode, neurocore, assault, jack3d and craze, they all made me spottier than a dalmatian's a$$. Any particular brand that didn't make you break out if you're prone to this kinda thing? Stopped my last jug of neurocore about a month ago and training is seriously suffering without the kick it gave it.

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    Originally Posted by AZPump View Post
    I honestly don't remember how long it took. I just remember that it helped. It also helps a lot when I cycle a PH. With that being said, if you were doing 10g a day with no results, then I would say forget about that option.

    Just stick it out for the time being.. Puberty is what it is.. Keep your face and diet clean. Change pillow cases often and consider seeing a dermatologist. Good luck man.

    PS!! DID NOT MEAN TO NEG YOU!! WAS TRYING TO REP YOU.. STANDBY, I'LL GET IT FIXED!!
    Thanks man, appreciate cha haha, don't worry about it! reps back on r/c, damn this measly 24 hour period ****.

    Originally Posted by DoWorkSon515 View Post
    I can attest to the fact that for some people, bulking (eating excess food) will cause acne. I'm not entirely sure whether it is because of the increased number of cheat foods or the extra calories, probably a mix, but I've noticed that I always breakout 5x more when I'm on a calorie surplus. Experiencing it right now, feelsbatman
    Interesting that you say that, I cheated like fwarq on holiday 6 weeks back, like beer cakes every type of **** food you can think of and didn't have a single pimple then got straight back on the clean bulk when I got home (haven't cheated since I've been home) and have broken out twice, maybe it's just quantity of food and type of it has no bearing on my skin. Woke up with 2 new ones on teh bicep this morning, damn you puberty lol

    Originally Posted by Cr3echer View Post
    I found that I brokeout more when I used the **** the derm gave me. Right now I'm just washing my face twice a day, and using a zinc spot treatment and i'm pretty clear. I'd say that you are using way to much chemicals for your face, and due to this its making it worse.
    A lot of people have told me to try zinc but you can't use it with the spot tabs I'm on be it topical zinc or oral zinc cause it fcks with the way it works. Better stopping the tabs and trying zinc d'ya think?

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    Should be better now Called on some friends to help fix that mistake..
    Thanks buddy. I shall rep 'um back when I can

    Originally Posted by Dawson1990 View Post
    Could be dryin your skin out too much causing irritation and leading to acne?
    It doesn't feel dry but thinking about it I'm gonna slash one of the showers just one in the morning one after training and washing my face before bed. Thanks brah
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    I have very oily skin and ErgoPump NMT hasn't caused any problems with my skin
    Shall look into bro, thanks. D'ya ship samples of it to the uk?
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    Originally Posted by demtrapz View Post
    Shall look into bro, thanks. D'ya ship samples of it to the uk?
    We actually do not simply due to shipping cost.

    A quick glance around google will yield some very affordable results for the 15 serving tub
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    Originally Posted by Big.Jazayrli View Post
    We actually do not simply due to shipping cost.

    A quick glance around google will yield some very affordable results for the 15 serving tub
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