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    not going to lie man, i really enjoy db pressing. it's the one lift i prefer db over bb for actually facilitating str. don't get me wrong the only reason i do it is to lead to a stronger bb press but something about standing db press puts the bb lift in perspective for me.
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    What exactly is wrong with your left shoulder? Have you ever had it officially checked out? I can relate to shoulder pain--had both delts operated on (AC Joint surgery).

    Good to see you already have a some form of plan in mind if forced to change to your workout around your injury. Don't get discouraged on this, as you can still continue to progress on majority of other lifts.

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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Strong work even while rehabbing that shoulder bro.
    Thanks, Ant.

    Originally Posted by jasolhe View Post
    how long you been lifting bro - very nice numbers across the board i must say
    With a real plan, probably closing in on 4 years. Before that more of just f#cking around in the gym in retrospect. I.e. no squat or deadlift.

    Originally Posted by MakeGoBoom View Post
    not going to lie man, i really enjoy db pressing. it's the one lift i prefer db over bb for actually facilitating str. don't get me wrong the only reason i do it is to lead to a stronger bb press but something about standing db press puts the bb lift in perspective for me.
    We all have our preferences. I'd prefer barbell pressing, but the more I read/watch about it from guys who do seem to know their sh!t (i.e. Eric Cressey and Jonnie Candito), the DB press allows for a more evenly distributed (across the shoulder) movement because your head isn't in the way. Eric Cressey wrote in one of his shoulder saver articles that some people simply aren't built for straight bar OHP, but I'm definitely going to work my ass off on the prehab/rehab work to improve shoulder mobility and stability as much as possible before I give up on it.

    Realistically, I could maintain my current strength on the OHP with less work than I'm doing now. Getting progress is a completely different story though. In the end, I'll do what is needed to have long term success and health. If that means dropping barbell OHP temporarily or permanently, so be it. It won't be for lack of trying to make it work though. Another option would be log press. Apparently the neutral grip used for those is more forgiving on the shoulder joint.

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    What exactly is wrong with your left shoulder? Have you ever had it officially checked out? I can relate to shoulder pain--had both delts operated on (AC Joint surgery).
    Damn, was that lifting related or not? I haven't had it checked out because it only hurts with certain movements (i.e. OHP and full range bench press) and it's gotten better with improving mobility. Unfortunately my mobility was beyond awful probably up to a few months ago looking at it from my new perspective now, so I might just have a ton of work ahead of me still with that. If it was constant pain, I'd go see a doctor. But the shoulder just hurts from those movements and is fine again pretty much immediately after. That just leads me to believe the mobility demand of the exercises is what's putting stress on it. I.e. I can floor press with no pain at all.

    Originally Posted by iron619 View Post
    Good to see you already have a some form of plan in mind if forced to change to your workout around your injury. Don't get discouraged on this, as you can still continue to progress on majority of other lifts.
    I'm not too discouraged. It's more of a minor setback. Not like I'm going to stop lifting, so I'll just work at it and hope for the best.

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    a setback it's what it is but I'm glad to see you're positive about it! Best of wishes man
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    Originally Posted by Clabuilder91 View Post
    a setback it's what it is but I'm glad to see you're positive about it! Best of wishes man
    Appreciate it.
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    I've noticed no carryover from db to bb. Tis just me though.

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    Originally Posted by mmorton View Post
    I've noticed no carryover from db to bb. Tis just me though.

    Nice work.
    Yeah, I wouldn't expect my OHP to go up from DB work, but it would be more of an option to consider, as opposed to no shoulder work if barbell overhead press continues to be painful. Creating a situation where the impingement can be taken care of without dropping OHP is obviously my primary goal, but a back up plan is nice to have so I'm considering some things for that as well.
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    Originally Posted by mmorton View Post
    I've noticed no carryover from db to bb. Tis just me though.

    Nice work.
    Yeah, I wouldn't expect my OHP to go up from DB work, but it would be more of an option to consider, as opposed to no shoulder work if barbell overhead press continues to be painful. Creating a situation where the impingement can be taken care of without dropping OHP is obviously my primary goal, but a back up plan is nice to have so I'm considering some things for that as well.
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    Originally Posted by ktj4l View Post
    Yeah, I wouldn't expect my OHP to go up from DB work, but it would be more of an option to consider, as opposed to no shoulder work if barbell overhead press continues to be painful. Creating a situation where the impingement can be taken care of without dropping OHP is obviously my primary goal, but a back up plan is nice to have so I'm considering some things for that as well.

    Yeah for sure. Everyone always gives me crap about btn and klokov s but it's the same rom as a db press and I gotz dem supple shoulders. Heal up soon
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    Originally Posted by mmorton View Post
    Yeah for sure. Everyone always gives me crap about btn and klokov s but it's the same rom as a db press and I gotz dem supple shoulders. Heal up soon
    The ROM for BTN pressing is less forgiving than DB pressing because a barbell can't travel through your head without killing you. With that being said, if you have the mobility to do them, they're great movements.

    I've done them before, but I probably shouldn't have been. Maybe in the future, but right now I'd be fine with regular OHP. Already increased my mobility work today and will do some more stuff at the gym later as well. I'm pretty good with being consistent, so that should benefit me with this.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    double the reps on 90% week...noice
    My weeks are switched around, so it's 85% (333+ for deadlift on both weeks makes it extra confusing)... but I'll take it regardless.
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    My weeks are switched around, so it's 85% (333+ for deadlift on both weeks makes it extra confusing)... but I'll take it regardless.
    ok...I'm confused.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    ok...I'm confused.
    Haha, I do regular 333+ week first in the cycle. Then I do 555+, but I do 333+ for deadlift with lower percentages. I started doing this when I did the Frequency Project and it has helped my deadlift progress, so I kept it.

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    Strong work man. Like the flexibility work you got going on
    Thanks. Started doing 2min static stretches again too. I got away from them for a while, but I really think they were a big part of what improved my mobility previously. They suck to do, but they work in my experience...

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    Nice work bro and nice shoulder rehab routine.
    Appreciate it. I assume I'll know in a few weeks if it's working.
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    Simple and sweet pull day .way to confuse dem muscles by percentage
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    Originally Posted by jasolhe View Post
    injuries take older to heal when ur old, just fukn wit ya old man...keep up with the flexibility shiat
    Haha, will do (inbetween digging my own grave).

    Originally Posted by ulsak View Post
    Simple and sweet pull day .way to confuse dem muscles by percentage
    Gotta confuse the f#ck out of them to make those MUSSEL FIBRAZ grow.
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    Originally Posted by Celtic8Laoch View Post
    Strong work my german overlord.
    Thanks, Irish Brah of the Iron.

    9/14/13 - Floor Press - 531 C23W2(555+)

    531 Floor Press (TM=142kg/313lbs):

    WU:
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    5x60kg/132lbs
    3x80kg/176lbs
    3x100kg/220lbs

    WS:
    5x106kg/234lbs
    5x113.5kg/250lbs
    10x121kg/267lbs


    Explosive Deadlift:
    1x100kg/220lbs
    1x120kg/265lbs
    1x100kg/220lbs (To re-rack and add a plate.)
    1x140kg/309lbs
    1x140kg/309lbs
    1x140kg/309lbs
    1x140kg/309lbs
    1x140kg/309lbs
    1x140kg/309lbs


    Meadows Row with CSR:
    5x20kg/44lbs
    5x30kg/66lbs
    10x40kg/88lbs
    10x40kg/88lbs
    10x40kg/88lbs


    Hammer Curl:
    3x10x20kg/44lbs


    Skullcrusher:
    3x10x30kg/66lbs


    Mobility work: Mostly 3-4x10 of face pull, shoulder dislocation, pull up retraction, barbell overhead shrug, band pull aparts, band BTN pulldown, cable external rotation

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    good days work - **** u reminded me i need to buy a foam roller

    time to give bro vice? which size should i buy for the **** we do?
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    Originally Posted by jasolhe View Post
    good days work - **** u reminded me i need to buy a foam roller

    time to give bro vice? which size should i buy for the **** we do?
    http://www.amazon.com/Black-High-Den...ds=foam+roller
    I'd get the longest one, unless you'll be taking it to the gym. You can also just go to a home improvement store and grab a PVC pipe. It'll just hurt more. Lacrosse balls are the sh!t for trigger point release. For more cash, the rumble roller and 'The Grid' look like solid options.
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    The german machine lifts weightsand the earth trembles when he put them down
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Beast bro! Real good workout man. Reading all these logs makes me want to get back in the gym and can't wait to start at it again on Sunday.
    Thanks man. I know that feeling.
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