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    Arrow Weight Gainer Vs Whey Protein for Skinny

    Hi guys,

    I have been searching a lot but still confused.
    I am really really skinny. 6'1 and 142lbs and 24 yrs age.
    Been doing Gym since 6 weeks but starting SS last week only. I have below questions if someone can answer.

    Please see below link to check my physique and then answer my below questions. Thanks.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post921900263

    1. For skinny guy like me, shud i buy Gold standard Whey Protein or ON Serious mass weight gainer? or BOTH?

    2. I have already got a lot of fat on my stomach though i am skinny otherwise. Should i Do Cardio on tuesday/thursday/saturday alongwwith doing SS on MWF?

    3. post workout diet should be Whey pro or On Serious mass?

    4. I went from 135 to 142 lbs in 6 weeks but still cant see any noticeable change in my body. I see people doing great in 6 weeks as well. Looks like my diet isnt proper? coz i am hitting hard on my training and getting proper rest. I am pure veggie. Is the diet lagging for me? I havent taken any protein yet.

    5. I play table Tennis daily in my office for like 2-3 hours. I searched that playing TT we loose 250 calories/hour. Should i limit my table tennis or just stop it? My office timings are 11am-8.30pm.
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    Head over to the nutrition section and find out your daily macros for a clean bulk b/c you said you have stomach fat already. I would definitely throw some cardio into the mix but not too much because you want mass. As far as the PWO shake goes, get regular protein and throw bananas, oats, strawberries, milk, natty PB, etc. in there b/c it is much easier to control the macros of a homemade gainer and also, the calories aren't junk (although in your case calories are king, its better to get them from nutritious foods.) Make sure you are hitting your macros for the day. I would suggest jumping on MyFitnessPal and tracking your intake, it is a great habit and a great tool. Before you start using heavy supplementation to help, get the diet and training routine down pat.
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    calories

    My daily need is 3000 calories but i think i am taking around 2000 atm. I am pure veggie and taking oatmeal, PB, eggs, bananas daily.
    Anyone who can answer my above questions?
    Started at 135 lbs on 27th June 2012(Being skinny). Lets see where I progress.
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    2 scoops whey
    4 tbs peanut butter
    1-2 cup(s) whole milk
    1 banana
    tbsp olive/canola oil
    1 cup ground oats.
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    Originally Posted by Valhallabound86 View Post
    2 scoops whey
    4 tbs peanut butter
    1-2 cup(s) whole milk
    1 banana
    tbsp olive/canola oil
    1 cup ground oats.
    I am already taking the above except whey. I will go tomorrrow and buy 5lbs of whey.
    Started at 135 lbs on 27th June 2012(Being skinny). Lets see where I progress.
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    Whoa. 6'1" and 142? I'm the same height and 194 and I think most people would call me skinny. I would definitely hold off on the cardio until you gain some serious mass. Same thing on the table tennis, I'd cut back for now.

    3000 calories sounds about right for you, however, as the above folks have said review the stickies to figure out your macros. With your diet limitations it is a lot harder to take in the necessary protein and not over do it on the carbs. Therefore, I would stick to just whey protein and skip the simple sugars from the weight gainers. Make sure you track everything on something like myfitnesspal and make sure you hit your macros everyday.

    Good luck!
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    Originally Posted by skinny2healthy View Post
    My daily need is 3000 calories but i think i am taking around 2000 atm. I am pure veggie and taking oatmeal, PB, eggs, bananas daily.
    Anyone who can answer my above questions?
    You need lots of calories and lots of protein. You need to get as much protein as you can from whole foods, then make up the difference with powders.

    Go to the nutrition section and study up.
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    Originally Posted by skinny2healthy View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have been searching a lot but still confused.
    I am really really skinny. 6'1 and 142lbs and 24 yrs age.
    Been doing Gym since 6 weeks but starting SS last week only. I have below questions if someone can answer.

    Please see below link to check my physique and then answer my below questions. Thanks.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post921900263

    1. For skinny guy like me, shud i buy Gold standard Whey Protein or ON Serious mass weight gainer? or BOTH?

    2. I have already got a lot of fat on my stomach though i am skinny otherwise. Should i Do Cardio on tuesday/thursday/saturday alongwwith doing SS on MWF?

    3. post workout diet should be Whey pro or On Serious mass?

    4. I went from 135 to 142 lbs in 6 weeks but still cant see any noticeable change in my body. I see people doing great in 6 weeks as well. Looks like my diet isnt proper? coz i am hitting hard on my training and getting proper rest. I am pure veggie. Is the diet lagging for me? I havent taken any protein yet.

    5. I play table Tennis daily in my office for like 2-3 hours. I searched that playing TT we loose 250 calories/hour. Should i limit my table tennis or just stop it? My office timings are 11am-8.30pm.
    1 - I would focus less on weight gainers and fix your diet. You need more protein period and it can't all come from protein powders. If you want to stay vegetarian, then research complimentary vegetable protein sources that result in a complete protein when mixed (like rice and legumes)

    2 - I assume you mean that you are doing Starting Strength, correct? You could do some cardio on your off days, but I would make it short burst high intensity cardio using intervals. These will help burn fat but also help build your leg strength. Do not do low intensity long duration cardio as that will work against your goals.

    3 - Post workout should be a mix of carbs and protein with a small portion of healthy fats. Ideally a ratio of 2grams:1gram of carbrotein in your post workout meal.

    4 - It takes time to notice changes in your body and a large portion of that is diet. I would definitely give your diet attention. If you are not taking in any whole proteins, then it's likely that you have not put on much muscle, only fat. Muscle is made of protein, so if you don't supply the building blocks, your body can't build.

    5 - You burn almost 250 calories an hour just sleeping. I would not consider table tennis a cardio workout. If you want to do it for fun, that's one thing, but it shouldn't be considered part of your exercise program.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    1 - I would focus less on weight gainers and fix your diet. You need more protein period and it can't all come from protein powders. If you want to stay vegetarian, then research complimentary vegetable protein sources that result in a complete protein when mixed (like rice and legumes)

    2 - I assume you mean that you are doing Starting Strength, correct? You could do some cardio on your off days, but I would make it short burst high intensity cardio using intervals. These will help burn fat but also help build your leg strength. Do not do low intensity long duration cardio as that will work against your goals.

    3 - Post workout should be a mix of carbs and protein with a small portion of healthy fats. Ideally a ratio of 2grams:1gram of carbrotein in your post workout meal.

    4 - It takes time to notice changes in your body and a large portion of that is diet. I would definitely give your diet attention. If you are not taking in any whole proteins, then it's likely that you have not put on much muscle, only fat. Muscle is made of protein, so if you don't supply the building blocks, your body can't build.

    5 - You burn almost 250 calories an hour just sleeping. I would not consider table tennis a cardio workout. If you want to do it for fun, that's one thing, but it shouldn't be considered part of your exercise program.
    Thats what i call a perfect answer. Thanks buddy.
    I went to buy GOLD Standard Whey protein but it was out of stock. So bought ON serious mass gainer since it also contains good amount of protein in it.
    Started at 135 lbs on 27th June 2012(Being skinny). Lets see where I progress.
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    There's no reason why you should quit the activities you like. You can do all the exercise you want just find out your macros and maintenance calories. I'm pretty sure you're eating under your maintenance calories which is why you're not gaining any mass. Veggies have a very small amount of calories! Find out your maintenance calories and add about 300 calories daily to that. you should gain about 2-3 lbs per month, which is healthy. If I were you I would buy a high calorie formula weight gainer!
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    Originally Posted by skinny2healthy View Post
    My daily need is 3000 calories but i think i am taking around 2000 atm. I am pure veggie and taking oatmeal, PB, eggs, bananas daily.
    Anyone who can answer my above questions?
    Yea you definitely need more calories in your diet. I know its no easy to eat that much, so yea a weight gainer might help you out to reach your calorie goal.

    And if you can also afford the whey protein, its nice to take it before bed instead of weight gainer.

    But before you invest too much in supplement, work on your diet.
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    FWIW, I was terribly skinny, and I weighed 144 and in two months I'm at 165. That was all due to help with a personal trainer, and an advised schedule of weight training, healthy (and heavy...) eating at a daily goal of 4000 calories. Trainer had me logging every single thing I ate with MyFitnessPal, and would check it to make sure I wasn't pigging out on McDonalds to get the calories. I definitely notice the results. Body measurements show between 1-2 inch gains for all of my measurements (chest, legs, thigh, arm) after a month and a half. I'm no Arnold, but I've gained a ton of self confidence now. All of the weight training was mainly fewer reps with heavier weights, and very little cardio (which I'll return to doing one of these days when I go back to maintenance mode).

    I used to run multiple miles a day because I enjoyed it and wanted to stay healthy cardio-wise, but I lost so much weight that my cheeks started to sag in. Hard to keep up my caloric intake with that much cardio. At this point, I do limit the heavy-duty and consistent cardio activities unless I'm sure I can make up the calories burnt.

    I'm not going to lie, I've been using Optimum Nutrition Pro Gainer (one or two shakes a day - after a workout) to help reach my caloric goals, but that's simply because I really have a hard time getting enough food to last me throughout the work day. It's admittedly an 'ease' thing. But I still do my best to eat healthy. Just difficult sometimes when things get very busy.

    Good luck!
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    Originally Posted by skinny2healthy View Post
    Thats what i call a perfect answer. Thanks buddy.
    I went to buy GOLD Standard Whey protein but it was out of stock. So bought ON serious mass gainer since it also contains good amount of protein in it.
    You started wrong my friend. If you didn't find the Optimum Whey Protein Buy another Good Whey like NitroTech for example.
    When you're skinny, Why buy weight gainer to grow bigger but with much fat!? To then have to Buy Whey and Fat Burner to remove the fat you had added.
    Your skinny body if burning well as you said, only need Whey Protein to grow pure muscle, ofcourse if you take care of foods you eat.
    Unless, you can burn all calories taken from weight gainer & take it pre-workout, you'll add fats whatsoever.
    Instead, you can make the alternative of weight gainer carbs and sugar found inside it by eating foods that contain carbs like potato, rice..etc and get the essential fatty acids like from peanuts, olive..etc, sugars can be taken from fruits like strawberry..etc

    As a Vegetarian, you can find protein in foods like Beans, Soy, Peanut, Wheat, Seitan, Grains, Quinoa, burgers(for veggies)..etc
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