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    Originally Posted by The Shoeless Wonder View Post
    i dont have your new journal link. i thought ID was your only journal site?

    do you think fs carry over to sumo?

    btw, rb is banned lol!
    it was but i missed the attention whoring

    i honestly dont know as i am not gay enough to pull sumo

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    Originally Posted by The Shoeless Wonder View Post
    i dont have your new journal link. i thought ID was your only journal site?

    do you think fs carry over to sumo?



    btw, rb is banned lol!
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    yeah I think fs would carry over to sumo because they both require the same motion and stance
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    who is rb?
    Ur mom's new fùck buddy.

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    Originally Posted by PhiDelt234 View Post
    yeah I think fs would carry over to sumo because they both require the same motion and stance
    what? there is almost no similarities in the front squat and sumo deadlift other than the knees and hips bend

    most people do front squats with a narrow stance. sumo stance by definition is a very wide stance
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    Ur mom's new fùck buddy.
    brb going to start infracting people i here if i dont get answers then you have to see my name EVERY time you look in your CP
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    what? there is almost no similarities in the front squat and sumo deadlift other than the knees and hips bend

    most people do front squats with a narrow stance. sumo stance by definition is a very wide stance
    I was going to say...pretty sure a low bar back squat is the most similar to a sumo dead. And probably a high bar back squat more similar than a front squat

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I was going to say...pretty sure a low bar back squat is the most similar to a sumo dead. And probably a high bar back squat more similar than a front squat
    the more i thought about it the more i realized my off the ground part of the deadlift increase dramatically when i started putting heavy front squats in the mix. then when i later added deficit deadlifts it really got fast. now even my max attempts are fast as hell off the ground but tend to suffer when i get past the knees

    i also think low bar back squats would have more carry over to sumo simply because you use a wider stance for the low bar squat and both them and sumo deads are hamstring intensive.
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    upgraded to clean grip
    You arent just supposed to fall on the box

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    Front squats would carry over to sumo because sumo uses more quads than a conventional dead. Back squats still would carry over more. And deadlift variations would still carry over even more! See how that works?
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    Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    Who is rb?

    Front squats would carry over to sumo because sumo uses more quads than a conventional dead. Back squats still would carry over more. And deadlift variations would still carry over even more! See how that works?
    Whatchu talking about Willis?

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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    [video=youtube;vR3kqnFI7WM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR3kqnFI7WM[video]

    upgraded to clean grip
    About time you got rid of that ****gy time cross arm grip

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    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    No one knows why he got banned. Amirite?
    who cares. he was too self-righteous.

    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    what? there is almost no similarities in the front squat and sumo deadlift other than the knees and hips bend
    most people do front squats with a narrow stance. sumo stance by definition is a very wide stance
    i think youre right for the wrong reasons. when i did conv my quads would be sore sometimes. sumo has a more ham focus

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I was going to say...pretty sure a low bar back squat is the most similar to a sumo dead. And probably a high bar back squat more similar than a front squat
    seems right. but i dont lbs

    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    the more i thought about it the more i realized my off the ground part of the deadlift increase dramatically when i started putting heavy front squats in the mix. then when i later added deficit deadlifts it really got fast. now even my max attempts are fast as hell off the ground but tend to suffer when i get past the knees
    i also think low bar back squats would have more carry over to sumo simply because you use a wider stance for the low bar squat and both them and sumo deads are hamstring intensive.
    you need to do rack pulls, and maybe try some deads to knees.

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    Whatchu talking about Willis?
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    Don't infract me, you homo, neg me. Srs.
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    You arent just supposed to fall on the box
    i know. seems i have a weakness in the hips/glutes. it doesnt matter what weight is on the bar i just fall down the rest of the way
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    Originally Posted by The Shoeless Wonder View Post
    i think youre right for the wrong reasons. when i did conv my quads would be sore sometimes. sumo has a more ham focus
    Whenever I do sumo along with multiple squats sessions in a week, my quads cramp. When I don't deadlift at all or when I do conventional, my quads don't cramp.
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    Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    Who is rb?

    Front squats would carry over to sumo because sumo uses more quads than a conventional dead. Back squats still would carry over more. And deadlift variations would still carry over even more! See how that works?
    you must be high

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    Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    Whenever I do sumo along with multiple squats sessions in a week, my quads cramp. When I don't deadlift at all or when I do conventional, my quads don't cramp.
    so stop squatting and you have no quad cramps

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    Sumo is more glutes and hams, my good chaps. Sumo also doesn't work your lumbar as hard as conventional does.

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    Originally Posted by The Shoeless Wonder View Post
    so stop squatting and you have no quad cramps
    Why would I stop squatting in favor of sumo deads? lol they're not even real deads.
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    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    Sumo is more glutes and hams, my good chaps. Sumo also doesn't work your lumbar as hard as conventional does.
    Sumo is more quads, glutes, and hams. Whole back is spared a bit of stress. My good chap.
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    Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    Whenever I do sumo along with multiple squats sessions in a week, my quads cramp. When I don't deadlift at all or when I do conventional, my quads don't cramp.
    cramps =/= more work being done by quads in sumo deadlift. it just means you are getting a stretch in the muscle it isnt used to.

    sumo deads are definitely hammy and glute dominant. a conventional deadlift actually has more quad involvement.
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    Originally Posted by Blizzard589 View Post
    Why would I stop squatting in favor of sumo deads? lol they're not even real deads.
    also this. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    cramps =/= more work being done by quads in sumo deadlift. it just means you are getting a stretch in the muscle it isnt used to.

    sumo deads are definitely hammy and glute dominant. a conventional deadlift actually has more quad involvement.


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    A rack pull is a real dead and is more functional. Come at me, hoes.
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    i am trying to determine how those 2 vids would prove it one way or the other. yes there is some quad inolvement in either deadlift type but everyone i know that pulls sumo deadlift the correct way says it is a hamstring focused lift.

    i honestly dont care since i dont know anyone that deadlifts for big quads. oh and pretty bad example getting the guy with monster quads pulling sumo . his quads looked fully flexed as he was getting READY to pull lol
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