The wait is over The Kris Gethin DTP MASS Trainer Video Series is here!

[AJP1]

I've done 4 weeks when the program was first released in August. I got good results but felt the extra HIIT cardio days stunted more growth and recovery. Some of the exercises I felt didn't work for ME that well.

So I just started it up again 3 weeks ago to gain size back after losing 13lbs due to not eating and training from hurricane Sandy. So I am currently in my 4th week and have better results than the first time because I made a few tweaks.

1. I cut out the off day HIIT sessions because I have great stamina and it was just too taxing.

2. I switched the leg routine by doing 3-5 sets of a 1-3 Rep Max deadlift to better hit my hamstrings because the first time I ran the program my strength in deadlifts went down a lot especially hamstring strength. So after the heavy deadlift I finish with a double drop set for 20+ reps. Then I do the leg press as its stated. My legs are growing fast this way.
For back I took out that weird skiing type DB row and the high row he does and do a seated low cable row and a later pulldown instead. I just didn't feel my lats worked when I did his skiing row. The high row was good though.
For arms I do a wide grip seated low cable curl and then a close grip low cable curl instead of standing cable curls and BB curls. Triceps I do rope pushdown and rope extension because the skullcrushers hurt my wrists too much and don't feel it as much as rope pushdown.
I keep the same shoulder workout except adding cable lat raise for 3 sets. Alternating between 25 reps - 12 reps - 25 reps.

3. I do very light cardio for 20mins to burn a little extra fat on my chest and arm day. Usually use the elliptical keeping heart rate around 130.

4. I do my own ab workouts instead

Just do the exercises you feel work best for you with the same Rep scheme and cut the extra HIIT cardio.

I highly suggest doing DTP. I've gained more size than any other type of training I've done, its very fun, quick, very lean gains of muscle too (I gain fat super easy so thats good), you also get an amazing cardio workout from this. I wear a heart rate monitor and my HR stays above 150 throughout the workout.

The only negative is that your Max strength doesn't increase that much your higher Rep weights increase in strength. But that's not that main point of this program. Its a mass gainer, not strength.

I plan on running it for 8 weeks before moving to a high frequency plan for 6 weeks and then come back to this. DTP is just too much fun

Good stuff.
I guess it's more about the reps and sets than the strength.
I guess you can take any 2-4 exercises and superset em and just fit the same rep/set scheme.

I actually debates doing 20 rep sets instead.... we will see.
Good feedback though I appreciate it. I've been trying to see ways I can customize the dtp program.
The 30 & 40 rep sets are just down right brutal....

[Dip87]

Good stuff.
I guess it's more about the reps and sets than the strength.
I guess you can take any 2-4 exercises and superset em and just fit the same rep/set scheme.

I actually debates doing 20 rep sets instead.... we will see.
Good feedback though I appreciate it. I've been trying to see ways I can customize the dtp program.
The 30 & 40 rep sets are just down right brutal....

Yes, any exercises you feel work best for your body you should do. I like using cables to keep constant tension. It gives me great pumps.

The 30, 40, 50 reps are brutal but after you do it, it feels so good, like you've accomplished something, especially on leg day. But its worth it too because it takes a lot of intensity, that you don't really end up overtraining yourself like some of us tend to do because we love to lift. Plus the cardio workout you get at the same time, ends up saving you time. It takes about 40-45 Mins to complete it. Usually burn around 600-700 calories because its like circuit training for an hour straight with such little rest periods.

One other positive thing which he mentions in the video is regarding injury. My joints don't really hurt as much as other type of training I've done.

[walidhisham]

I want to ask abt the two high-carb meals ? R they like cheat meals ? Can I have pizza and waffles or maybe adding either coke or chocolate ?? Please examples for them ..
And I finished ur 12 week program and lost a lot of wright , amazing results , will this DTP I stRted today make me gain fat or make the close goal of abs far ??

[AJP1]

Thx Dip.
Still thinking if I like my old routine of chest tri back bi type if split legs then shoulders and just high rep.
I'll play around with it....

[enjay5]

Thinking of giving this program a try in the new year. Currently doing Jim Stoppani's Shortcut to Size and had great gains from that (approx 3 - 4kg lean muscle). I know this is a muscle gaining program as opposed to just strength and was wondering what sort of gains have people been getting whilst doing the cardio as well?

Thanks in advance of any replies.

[morgie1983]

This is amazing, the mass I have put on is unbelievable!!! Kris your a legend!!

[AJP1]

how mass morgie did you do before and afters

[AJP1]

I'm still curious if any has provided detailed fedback on the results they had from running this program.

[jalfrey]

I'm still curious if any has provided detailed fedback on the results they had from running this program.

Me too. I just finished a Y3T bulk cycle and put on a little more fat than I wanted. I thought this looked good to help me shed some of it and keep gaining.
I'm probably going to do it next month anyway and I'll log it here and at AM.

[morgie1983]

how mass morgie did you do before and afters

I have put on 16lbs in just over 5 weeks, ok there is a little fat added but I can live with that until cutting, I still find it a struggle though to eat the 3600 calories, I'm touching on about 3000 a day and its hard.

[AJP1]

yeah jal i will follow just shoot me a p m.

[EFJ]

Let me begin by saying that I loved your 12 weeks hardcore trainer and that I can't wait to start DTP!

I was wondering: I'm at 79 kilos. Should I be worried about the meal plan being at roughly 5.500 cals., a day? Do I need to adjust it to my body weight? Just curious cause this is almost 1,000 cals., more or day than any other plan I followed. Please advice.

[enjay5]

Just did the chest/back workout...wow! The workout is extremely difficult and taxing cardio-wise. I thought I was going to pass out and considered giving up after the 4th set. Glad I didn't as the pump is unbelievable and ALL of the muscles felt and looked full. It is essential to go to failure on each set like Kris said and you will be rewarded. Will post progress pics next week. A great change of pace to traditional workouts.

[Curtis303]

did this program for almost 5 weeks now I regret not taking a before and after picture I'm going to measure progress next week

[grindmybones32]

gonna start this next week gonna go get all my measurments taken so should be interesting to see the results, cant wait to start ill keep you posted. gonna play around with the cardio it seems like alot i dont know where your muscles would find time to rest ill do it as it says for the first week or two and see how i get on

[HardHitter2k9]

Thoughts on beef jerkey to snack on?

[m0nkeh24]

my snack of choice when deployed was jerky, because of the protein lol

[grindmybones32]

do i include the cals, carbs and protein i get from the vitargo and BCAA's in my daily cals, carb and protein intake, i need 360g of carbs a day, does 70g of these come from the 2 scoops of vitargo or should that be neglected and should the carbs only be from whole foods??

[TheFudge]

Hi there ,

I am a newbie to working out but I personally loved the concept of DTP . I want to add the concept of DTP to my workout (as I am a beginner I wont really be able to perform 5xsets and those excersises) .
But would like to know that by following DTP would I be gaining mass/weight or burning them out ? cause the reps seem to be really high and burning of calories also seem to be high .
Could anyone guide me on this plz ?



Regards,

Fudge

[DapperBrah]

ive never worked out before how do i know how much weight i should start with?
also i have really low bodyfat%

[SphinxG12]

Are there any people with before and after pics? I'm on day 4 and still feeling day 1. lol

[oGoblin]

some one post some pics before and after

[jasonbo]

I think it it works. Pics on bodyspace, but that's it>!

[grindmybones32]

Are there any people with before and after pics? I'm on day 4 and still feeling day 1. lol

i hear ya, legs are still killing me

[iMangles]

do i include the cals, carbs and protein i get from the vitargo and BCAA's in my daily cals, carb and protein intake, i need 360g of carbs a day, does 70g of these come from the 2 scoops of vitargo or should that be neglected and should the carbs only be from whole foods??

I forget where I found the answer to this but Kris answered, saying 20x bodyweight in cals for food, plus pre/post shakes on workout days. No shakes on cardio days.
So don't count shakes in calories. I personally found this nearly impossible to stick to, but I haven't been doing all the cardio due to time constraints so tuned my diet, as I was putting on fat fairly quickly

[nsenande]

I’ve just finished my fourth week and to be honest I have not seen any major changes in my physicality. Although I have greatly increased my food intake following the plan according to my weight I have only gained a half a pound on my body. In fact, my lower body has identical measurements as compared to when I started. I have been eating the proper whole foods as explained in the plan, increased my shake intake now including it in my last meal, and introduced creatine which I have not been on before the program. As a mass gaining program I must say it hasn’t worked for me.

I did, however, gain strength in the program lifting slightly more than I was on my max prior to starting the program. Doing this program made me realize how conditioned I was to doing 8-12 reps on all my workouts for so long my body didn’t want to push for more reps regardless of the weight. This I found to be very interesting and at week four I’m banging out reps very easily so therefore I can say that my endurance has increased.

My abs have suffered a bit in my opinion, mostly because the ab program here is barley anything as to what I was doing before. I thought performing cardio three times a week would improve my ab’s appearance but it has definitely made me more athletic as a result.

In my opinion, DTP is a program that can help you gain strength, endurance, and increase your cardiovascular health. As for a weight gaining program, it could be just my genetics, but it unfortunately didn’t work for me.

I’m debating whether to keep at it for another 4 weeks to see if I’ll experience any mass gains. Pictures are posted below.


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These are 4 weeks after DTP training

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[Spartan2118]

Hey Kris I'm about to start the DTP 4 week trainer tomorrow, and I have a question about the nutrition, I work 10 hours a day usually 5-6 days a week, do you have any tips on how I can make time for the meal preparation? I get up at 4:15am every morning and have to be at work by 6am with a 30 min. drive time. Any suggestions on time management with meals would be a great help.

[AJP1]

so nsen no changes huh? that's not fun.

[nsenande]

so nsen no changes huh? that's not fun.

Not yet brother, i'm giving it the college try though and doing 8 weeks. I'm on week five now.

[branach00]

Did the arms programme l ast night. Unbelievable pump! Happy days. Bring it on