The wait is over The Kris Gethin DTP MASS Trainer Video Series is here!

[Blacklac]

The rest days are there for a reason. There is some overlap in the muscles hit indirectly. You need to let them recover.

[Good Eye Sniper]

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[Kaged Muscle]

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Haha, thanks for the bump, Nick. Its my fault - I never come into the threads to answer - I always do it in my BodyGroups. Maybe I should come here more often. You come here often?

[Froyo93]

Hey kris, im a college track runner. I was wondering if this workout would be right for me. Ive done your 12 week program multiple times and thought it was good but I wanted to change things up now.

[rsd147]

Has anyone done this programme and not done the 12 week hardcore? If so... Good results?

[AJP1]

I have yet to make it through the whole thread but I tried a few DTP work outs and they can be taxing, in a good way.
I'll def revisit it in the future.

The Nutrition By Design foods you speak of, never heard of it so I looked it up in the store and there's two meals right? A chicken meal & a chili meal?

[rsd147]

Has anyone done this programme and not done the 12 week hardcore? If so... Good results?

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[llahhsoj]

I'm getting ready to do DTP for shoulders and arms. I've tried the other workouts and liked them, never done these two. I wasn't planning on DTP untill I saw this thread pop up. I realize that these aren't done on the same day, but this follows my normal split. I think it is going to get brutal here in a couple of hours.

[AJP1]

I went to a dark place today...

Hit DTP for ARMs....

Going to increase the weight next time.

[llahhsoj]

I went to a dark place today...

Hit DTP for ARMs....

Going to increase the weight next time.

I did end up doing it for both shoulders and arms. It was a little too much, but I liked it. I predetermined the weights as a baseline. I was real close for shoulders, but the arms part was too easy.

[AJP1]

I did end up doing it for both shoulders and arms. It was a little much, but I liked it. I predetermined the weights as a baseline. I was real close for shoulders, but the arms part was too easy.

I kinda agree on arms.
How were you training before all of this?

[llahhsoj]

I kinda agree on arms.
How were you training before all of this?

I lift 5+ times a week and do a fitness bootcamp class 3X a week. I am doing a sponsored log for Dagger that is only a week old, link in signature. That is a good indication of my training. For the most part, I do quite a bit of volume, but lift pretty heavy in relation to my size.

I am going to do this whole program in the future, but when I do, I will probably have to give up bootcamp. The bootcamp screws with recovery. Sometimes there is a week break every few months, and I usually set multiple PRs during those weeks.

[MattyRM]

I'm on Week 4 of the 12 Week Program.. Should I continue? or just drop it and start this 4 week DTP?

I'm 5'8 175lbs, tryin to lose some fat and shred down to 160-165.. i've always been an athlete keep in mind

[AJP1]

DTP... I tried it and it's intense but I prefer lifting a bit heavy instead....
I'll always keep DTP in mind though.

[ms978]

Kris, do we still take Lcarnitine and yohimbine for this program? I have a protein tub and a serious mass tub. Which should I take for dtp? Thanks

[kelly1971]

Hey Kris just started your twelve week transfermation and feels great real sore day eight following everything just asking if I could be over training because I hang drywall all day I pick up and carry 15000 pounds a day and put on wall s andsceilings do you have any conserns for me your fan

[jmanis]

Just started this workout yesterday and my legs are sore as hell today. Had some difficulty finding the correct weight to use though. Feels great though! During some of the sets I dont think I used enough weight. Will have to feel it out next week and work on it for the rest of the workouts during the first week. Cant wait to see the results at the end of week 4. Thanks.

[llahhsoj]

Just started this workout yesterday and my legs are sore as hell today. Had some difficulty finding the correct weight to use though. Feels great though! During some of the sets I dont think I used enough weight. Will have to feel it out next week and work on it for the rest of the workouts during the first week. Cant wait to see the results at the end of week 4. Thanks.

It might take a few sessions of the same part to get your weights right.

[jmanis]

It might take a few sessions of the same part to get your weights right.

That is what I was thinking. Thanks!

[iwantsize6969]

Can this program be run back to back to back? As in after 4 weeks run it again, another 4 weeks run it again, etc etc? as in my go-to routine?

if not, which routine do you recommend after performing this?

[Curtis303]

on day 5 of this I really like it so far been doing 5x5 forever this has been great to switch it up just finished arms about 20min ago switched leg press with squats though legs still hurt from monday haha

[AJP1]

For people that done the full 4 or even 8 weeks of DTP,
1) what results did you get
2) did you feel run down or over trained?


I have to admit the 4 work out days and 2-3 cardio days seem down right brutal.
Made it through a few workouts and about a week of DTP and it rocked me.

Thinking about giving it a go again but damn.

I'm curious about the results.

It is important to movie the weight up but I think the reps are what count.

[guyver79]

I'm thinking about doing an inspired by/modified version of this from now till xmas for chits n giggles, I've been messing around with high reps lately anyway and haven't followed a set in stone routine for a while so a 4 week set in stone blast should be fun!

I'm going to drop the full/reverse pyramid and reduce days down to a 3 day Mon wed Fri split.

I work a pretty physical job n I've been training long enough to know what's too much for me!

Day 1. Seated machine press 50,40,30,20,10
Smith machine shoulder press 30,20,10
Tricep pushdowns 30,20,10

Day 2. Seated row 50,40,30,20,10
Pulldowns 30,20,10
Shrugs 30,20,10
Cable curls 30,20,10

Day 3. Leg press 50,40,30,20,10
My gym doesn't have a decent leg curl so might either do some regular stiff leg deads around the 6-8 rep range because its a bit risky on the lower back to do high rep fatigue type work or I might put my feet together high on leg press plate and bang out a couple of high two back off sets.
Calf raises 30,20,10

Pretty sure ifbb pro Ben white trains with high rep pyramid too.

[xspex]

Hey kris I started doing the DTP program two weeks ago, I absolutely love the workouts; I always leave the gym completely exhausted and I love it.

I just have one question , I am a college student on their meal plan and am stuck in class for 6 hours without enough of a break to go to the dining halls to eat. Do you have any suggestions for inexpensive snacks or meals that I could prepare/ eat in my short time in between classes , FYI I only have a microwave in my room

[Curtis303]

ever since I started this I sware I'm sleeping 8-10 hours a day

[Simplething1980]

Wow, awesome video. Thanks for sharing man.

[JerryD27]

Hey Kris,

Im going to start doing it from today, however my gym doesnt have alot of equipment you use in your videos, e.g. for legs there is only leg curls machine and for it doenst have the cables machines for biceps and triceps, only lat pulldown with different grips. what to do?

[NeedToFlexMore]

Hey Kris,

Im going to start doing it from today, however my gym doesnt have alot of equipment you use in your videos, e.g. for legs there is only leg curls machine and for it doenst have the cables machines for biceps and triceps, only lat pulldown with different grips. what to do?

Find another exercise and do it the DTP way.

[Dip87]

For people that done the full 4 or even 8 weeks of DTP,
1) what results did you get
2) did you feel run down or over trained?


I have to admit the 4 work out days and 2-3 cardio days seem down right brutal.
Made it through a few workouts and about a week of DTP and it rocked me.

Thinking about giving it a go again but damn.

I'm curious about the results.

It is important to movie the weight up but I think the reps are what count.

I've done 4 weeks when the program was first released in August. I got good results but felt the extra HIIT cardio days stunted more growth and recovery. Some of the exercises I felt didn't work for ME that well.

So I just started it up again 3 weeks ago to gain size back after losing 13lbs due to not eating and training from hurricane Sandy. So I am currently in my 4th week and have better results than the first time because I made a few tweaks.

1. I cut out the off day HIIT sessions because I have great stamina and it was just too taxing.

2. I switched the leg routine by doing 3-5 sets of a 1-3 Rep Max deadlift to better hit my hamstrings because the first time I ran the program my strength in deadlifts went down a lot especially hamstring strength. So after the heavy deadlift I finish with a double drop set for 20+ reps. Then I do the leg press as its stated. My legs are growing fast this way.
For back I took out that weird skiing type DB row and the high row he does and do a seated low cable row and a later pulldown instead. I just didn't feel my lats worked when I did his skiing row. The high row was good though.
For arms I do a wide grip seated low cable curl and then a close grip low cable curl instead of standing cable curls and BB curls. Triceps I do rope pushdown and rope extension because the skullcrushers hurt my wrists too much and don't feel it as much as rope pushdown.
I keep the same shoulder workout except adding cable lat raise for 3 sets. Alternating between 25 reps - 12 reps - 25 reps.

3. I do very light cardio for 20mins to burn a little extra fat on my chest and arm day. Usually use the elliptical keeping heart rate around 130.

4. I do my own ab workouts instead

Just do the exercises you feel work best for you with the same Rep scheme and cut the extra HIIT cardio.

I highly suggest doing DTP. I've gained more size than any other type of training I've done, its very fun, quick, very lean gains of muscle too (I gain fat super easy so thats good), you also get an amazing cardio workout from this. I wear a heart rate monitor and my HR stays above 150 throughout the workout.

The only negative is that your Max strength doesn't increase that much your higher Rep weights increase in strength. But that's not that main point of this program. Its a mass gainer, not strength.

I plan on running it for 8 weeks before moving to a high frequency plan for 6 weeks and then come back to this. DTP is just too much fun

[Productivity]

Did legs today.. Holy jesus mother ****ing ****. I was struggling after the second set, thought about giving up after the 4th but grinded through it and finished the work out. The most intense leg work out I have ever done.