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    fierce then white flood, non-stim to cycle??

    any ideas on a non-stim to cycle of stims? i used one tub of fierce and i'm just about out of my 50 servings of WF. i usually take one serving at a time so i've been on each of these for months. what would you recommend? i've got a pretty big container of micronized creatine, so it doesn't need to contain creatine in it. go!


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    Take a look at MAN Sports Clout and Body Octane. Also look into Hemavol (although I've yet to try it myself, it's a big hit around here). This would be a good place to start for some solid preworkouts that are stim-free.
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    i'm looking at clout, body octane, and hemavol. which would be more inclined to deliver focus and energy? looks like hemavol is aimed more at pumps. i lift after an 8 hour work day, i need focus and energy. when my head is where it should be, my reps reflect it.
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    Ultima + Hemavol ftw.


    Ultima to provide a bit of a mental boost and endurance boost.......hemavol for the killer pumps + endurance benefits
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    Hemavol, White Blood 2 and Body Octane are all great non-stim options. You could also grab you a tub of Glyergrow, another non-stim option, which works really well in the pump department for less than $30 (with 10% off coupon) that has 120 servings in it.
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    My favorite non stim option has been Blue Gene + GB stack. Fast recovery, great muscle fullness and awesome strength gains. Let me know if you want to learn more about our products.
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