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    Nice work bro and way to kill that OHP.

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    Nice work bro and way to kill that OHP.

    Don't listen to J in regards to the plus set for deadlifts. He'll be in a wheel chair while you're still pulling bigger weight than him
    I was already in a wheel chair once...ain't gonna back homie.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Nice work bro and way to kill that OHP.

    Don't listen to J in regards to the plus set for deadlifts. He'll be in a wheel chair while you're still pulling bigger weight than him
    I'm fine with the 5 max for now. If I ever feel like I really destroy it, I might throw in a set or 2 more of singles with extra weight to guage it. Thanks @ the oHP

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    I was already in a wheel chair once...ain't gonna back homie.
    for what? how long
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    Don't listen to J in regards to the plus set for deadlifts. He'll be in a wheel chair while you're still pulling bigger weight than him
    LMFAO!

    Thank god the deload is over. Starting to look more like a skinny ******* in that update pic. Don't get skinnier than Mr. U. Stay safe, eat your dinner!
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    Originally Posted by ulsak View Post
    lol'd - do you have the manual bro?
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    for what? how long
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    Originally Posted by ktj4l View Post
    LMFAO!

    Thank god the deload is over. Starting to look more like a skinny ******* in that update pic. Don't get skinnier than Mr. U. Stay safe, eat your dinner!
    haha Gee thanks Kruat. Yeah I'm happy its over too. Another few weeks of cutting, maybe until June 1st, and then I'll start eating at recomp like you explained to me. Slightly above maintenence on working days, and slightly below on non training days..right? What would be the % of increase/decrease you'd guess at for cals. I'm sure I can just look it up after but figured you may know.

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    lol'd - do you have the manual bro?
    Haha nah, but I've read some of the stuff hes said about the routine in general.

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    two broken legs and knees...thanks to a RPG and 60 lbs slab of concrete, Fallujah 2006
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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    haha Gee thanks Kruat. Yeah I'm happy its over too. Another few weeks of cutting, maybe until June 1st, and then I'll start eating at recomp like you explained to me. Slightly above maintenence on working days, and slightly below on non training days..right? What would be the % of increase/decrease you'd guess at for cals. I'm sure I can just look it up after but figured you may know.
    20% usually. You could go slightly over on lifting days, if you want to gain weight slowly.
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    Originally Posted by ktj4l View Post
    20% usually. You could go slightly over on lifting days, if you want to gain weight slowly.
    Oh so its just your standard recomp? +20 -20.
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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    Oh so its just your standard recomp? +20 -20.
    Pretty much. Worth trying out. If you hate it, just go back to bulking/cutting.
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    And now you're squatting like a beast. Bet that feels nice
    Hell yes it does...and it freaks the fuk out of my docs. They're like...you doing what!!!!????
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    Originally Posted by ktj4l View Post
    Pretty much. Worth trying out. If you hate it, just go back to bulking/cutting.
    Nah I think that would be fine. This standard recomp allows you to gain muscle and size with minimal fat gains right? I'm assuming so because eating ~20% under maintenance on off days is basically a cut, combined with 20% over on training days, except with the extra cals burnt from training days its not really 20% more total, but still adding more long term week to week to allow minimal, slow muscle growth. Last time I ate like a monster everyday for months, and yeah I gained a ton of muscle, but I gained sizeable amount of fat too. It was my first time ever eating and training as hard as I was, and was shocked by my gains.
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    Hell yes it does...and it freaks the fuk out of my docs. They're like...you doing what!!!!????
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    Nah I think that would be fine. This standard recomp allows you to gain muscle and size with minimal fat gains right? I'm assuming so because eating ~20% under maintenance on off days is basically a cut, combined with 20% over on training days, except with the extra cals burnt from training days its not really 20% more total, but still adding more long term week to week to allow minimal, slow muscle growth. Last time I ate like a monster everyday for months, and yeah I gained a ton of muscle, but I gained sizeable amount of fat too. It was my first time ever eating and training as hard as I was, and was shocked by my gains.

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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    Nah I think that would be fine. This standard recomp allows you to gain muscle and size with minimal fat gains right? I'm assuming so because eating ~20% under maintenance on off days is basically a cut, combined with 20% over on training days, except with the extra cals burnt from training days its not really 20% more total, but still adding more long term week to week to allow minimal, slow muscle growth. Last time I ate like a monster everyday for months, and yeah I gained a ton of muscle, but I gained sizeable amount of fat too. It was my first time ever eating and training as hard as I was, and was shocked by my gains.
    That's pretty much the theory. See if it works for you. I can never really stick to cutting calories anymore because I'm not vain enough to need a six pack I guess, but recomp I can usually do for a while.
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    That's pretty much the theory. See if it works for you. I can never really stick to cutting calories anymore because I'm not vain enough to need a six pack I guess, but recomp I can usually do for a while.
    Yeah I think it'd suit me nice. Most days I really just want an extra meal sometime during the day, or a few small snacks, so the +20% working days would make my life wonderful. I'm good at cutting them out and being strict, I just hate it. I did go out for a few cap'n and diet cokes with the boys though, because its been weeks since I did.
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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    Yeah I think it'd suit me nice. Most days I really just want an extra meal sometime during the day, or a few small snacks, so the +20% working days would make my life wonderful. I'm good at cutting them out and being strict, I just hate it. I did go out for a few cap'n and diet cokes with the boys though, because its been weeks since I did.
    Yeah, I don't care enough to do stuff like avoiding drinking with friends. I don't do it every week, but whenever it comes up it's not something I try to work around anymore. I also have a beer or two whenever I feel like it pretty much. I'll leave the neurotic dieting to women, bodybuilders, fitness models and people that hate themselves. I've done it in the past and it was terrible for my mood, added stress to my life, etc. I eat healthy food 80% of the time and count calories, I just don't feel bad for overeating or f'ucking up my diet completely for a day or two sometimes. It has to be said that my main goal is not physique related though. My main goal is to be healthy and as strong as possible along with that.
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    Yeah, I don't care enough to do stuff like avoiding drinking with friends. I don't do it every week, but whenever it comes up it's not something I try to work around anymore. I also have a beer or two whenever I feel like it pretty much. I'll leave the neurotic dieting to women, bodybuilders, fitness models and people that hate themselves. I've done it in the past and it was terrible for my mood, added stress to my life, etc. I eat healthy food 80% of the time and count calories, I just don't feel bad for overeating or f'ucking up my diet completely for a day or two sometimes. It has to be said that my main goal is not physique related though. My main goal is to be healthy and as strong as possible along with that.
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    Strong day for me. Annoyed with today because my grandpa got brought to the ER today. About 2 months ago we put him in a convalescent home because he has severe dementia, and my grandmother is too old to watch out for him, and my mom cant juggle it all the time with her own life and work. Needless to say it's been hell since hes been there, because those homes suck. Over medication, improper care etc. A few weeks ago my grandpa hit someone with a cane who was taking things from his room, and it caused a big raucous. Today, apparently someone pushed him, and he fell, cracked his head open, gashed his hand very deep, and bit down through his tongue. My mom spends like 2 hours a day at the home with him visiting, and checking in on him. I haven't gone since hes been there simply because he doesn't really remember me anymore and it bothers me. (I spent some time living with my g-rents, so it bothers me he cant remember me anymore). Fortunately, my grandpa is a WWII Vet, survived multiple heart attacks, bypass surgeries etc, and is a general badass. He's got multiple staples in his head (second time this has happened), and hes all bandaged up, but it just annoys me that **** like this happens at places designed to watch out for them. :\ Tried to vent it all out on the weights and treadmill before I got home. Don't stop hustlin' boys.
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    It sucks to hear about your grandpa. Personally, I think you should visit him regardless of him remembering you. My grandma went through a similar phase before she died and I'm glad I spent whatever time I could with her before she passed away. It's terrible to hear the things that go on at these homes sometimes. Usually they're extremely understaffed. Hopefully things change for the better.

    All that being said, great workout. I know sh!tty times in your personal life can give you extra fuel for workouts. It's a healthy outlet for sure.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    two broken legs and knees...thanks to a RPG and 60 lbs slab of concrete, Fallujah 2006
    should of got that shot off quicker shooter .

    beast press day juice my boy. sucks about your grandfather, my grandmother had Alzheimer's as well, no bueno
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    Originally Posted by ktj4l View Post
    It sucks to hear about your grandpa. Personally, I think you should visit him regardless of him remembering you. My grandma went through a similar phase before she died and I'm glad I spent whatever time I could with her before she passed away. It's terrible to hear the things that go on at these homes sometimes. Usually they're extremely understaffed. Hopefully things change for the better.

    All that being said, great workout. I know sh!tty times in your personal life can give you extra fuel for workouts. It's a healthy outlet for sure.
    Yeah visiting him would certainly make my mom happy too. I'm not sure if its under staffing, or the fact that they really seem to just want to sedate the patients rather then deal with them. You're right though, I need to go. Thanks @ great workout comment too.

    Originally Posted by MakeGoBoom View Post
    should of got that shot off quicker shooter .

    beast press day juice my boy. sucks about your grandfather, my grandmother had Alzheimer's as well, no bueno
    Thanks bud, and def no bueno. :|
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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    Yeah visiting him would certainly make my mom happy too. I'm not sure if its under staffing, or the fact that they really seem to just want to sedate the patients rather then deal with them. You're right though, I need to go. Thanks @ great workout comment too.
    Not sure if it's an option to find another home for him, but maybe it's worth looking into. If they have enough people working there, the patients should get taken care of.
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    Sounds like one amazing grandpa bro. you should definitely visit him man. Though he doesn't remember you that's still blood. Blood sticks with blood during the hardest of times. You only have one family and they're not here forever. Make it count with the time you have with him.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    Sounds like one amazing grandpa bro. you should definitely visit him man. Though he doesn't remember you that's still blood. Blood sticks with blood during the hardest of times. You only have one family and they're not here forever. Make it count with the time you have with him.
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    Originally Posted by MakeGoBoom View Post
    should of got that shot off quicker shooter .

    beast press day juice my boy. sucks about your grandfather, my grandmother had Alzheimer's as well, no bueno
    LOL...we entered the house to clear it and come under attack from inside the house and the house next to us. Fuking haji's. Pushed two Marines out of the way from the blast and I got the brunt of it.

    Way to kill bench press 11 reps at 200 is awesome.
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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    Yeah visiting him would certainly make my mom happy too. I'm not sure if its under staffing, or the fact that they really seem to just want to sedate the patients rather then deal with them. You're right though, I need to go. Thanks @ great workout comment too.



    Thanks bud, and def no bueno. :|
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    Originally Posted by Juicemw View Post
    Nah I think that would be fine. This standard recomp allows you to gain muscle and size with minimal fat gains right? I'm assuming so because eating ~20% under maintenance on off days is basically a cut, combined with 20% over on training days, except with the extra cals burnt from training days its not really 20% more total, but still adding more long term week to week to allow minimal, slow muscle growth. Last time I ate like a monster everyday for months, and yeah I gained a ton of muscle, but I gained sizeable amount of fat too. It was my first time ever eating and training as hard as I was, and was shocked by my gains.

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    Roids
    Not really a cyborg...yet.

    Roids for sure. The one thing that I know for sure is that anytime someone is making killer progress and others are not...it's clearly that the on making the progress is 'cheating'. Because it could never be from a optimal program relevant to trainees level, rogressive overload and nutrition...it's never that.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    LOL...we entered the house to clear it and come under attack from inside the house and the house next to us. Fuking haji's. Pushed two Marines out of the way from the blast and I got the brunt of it.

    Way to kill bench press 11 reps at 200 is awesome.
    Thanks man.
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    Def go and see him, even if he doesn't remember or know. Family is the most important thing.
    Yeah, the problem is my family doesn't get along ever. Long story, and I know most families have problems, but trust me, mine is miz.

    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    Not really a cyborg...yet.

    Roids for sure. The one thing that I know for sure is that anytime someone is making killer progress and others are not...it's clearly that the on making the progress is 'cheating'. Because it could never be from a optimal program relevant to trainees level, rogressive overload and nutrition...it's never that.
    I told you I think but the PT at my gym asked a friend of mine to "lightly ask mark how he got so big so fast". I've been questioned for if I've "ever done a cycle" by 2 people.
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