What rustles your jimmies - Part II

[LisaSkinnoble]

When subway breaks down for no apparent reason and my train is first 20 minutes late, then it's announced it won't come at all. Cab in gridlock traffic while I BLEED money. Yes, I feel justified in punching the wall. And kicking it. Anger issues? Meee? Nah man, this is just how I am on my one day off from working out per week.

Seriously. Workout = zen all day. No workout = RAGE.

Commuter rage - I know it well.

I heard about a train that was delayed (last week or the week before) because a litter of kittens was on the tracks. A 7-hour delay. Seven hours. Evidently, the little kitties kept running under the train onto the tracks. I love kittens, but I'd go bonkers if I were on that train.

[Madi-J]

Commuter rage - I know it well.

I heard about a train that was delayed (last week or the week before) because a litter of kittens was on the tracks. A 7-hour delay. Seven hours. Evidently, the little kitties kept running under the train onto the tracks. I love kittens, but I'd go bonkers if I were on that train.

I love kittens too but fffuuuuuu I might be calling for blood if I was late for something important.

[suzyschnitz]

Commuter rage - I know it well.

I heard about a train that was delayed (last week or the week before) because a litter of kittens was on the tracks. A 7-hour delay. Seven hours. Evidently, the little kitties kept running under the train onto the tracks. I love kittens, but I'd go bonkers if I were on that train.

Those kittehs had a death wish. Wow.

[sy2502]

I didn't know my eating pattern has a name. It's called Intermittent Fasting. WTF? I am IFing and I don't even know it?

[Miranda]

I didn't know my eating pattern has a name. It's called Intermittent Fasting. WTF? I am IFing and I don't even know it?

pfft.

i was intermittently fasting back in 1994. don't eat until after noon and never eat after 6PM. i accept visa and mastercard for my genius.

[suzyschnitz]

pfft.

i was intermittently fasting back in 1994. don't eat until after noon and never eat after 6PM. i accept visa and mastercard for my genius.

Haha... Yeah, it was called "college"... In too much of a hurry to get to class to eat breakfast, eat a lot of lunch when you found the time, too poor to eat dinner... Roommates steal your food anyway...

[Miranda]

Haha... Yeah, it was called "college"... In too much of a hurry to get to class to eat breakfast, eat a lot of lunch when you found the time, too poor to eat dinner... Roommates steal your food anyway...

oh, mine was disordered eating. the less actual time you allow yourself to eat, the better.

[BubsNBean]

While I have enjoyed almost all of your Avi's this one is by far my favorite!

Thanks! I'm partial to the silly ones for some reason

[sy2502]

pfft.

i was intermittently fasting back in 1994. don't eat until after noon and never eat after 6PM. i accept visa and mastercard for my genius.

Yeah I know, I'm kicking myself for not patenting it and selling it for a pretty penny. Damn, there's a reason the guy that invented the ShamWow is rich and I am not...

[shesprints]

Last night I was having some sort of discussion with my BF, I think about how systems of thought may be innate. (Like Steven Pinker's 'Language Instinct' and also the system of math). To discuss an example, I talked about logic. I brought up the notion of the logical contrapositive to make a point. He didn't know what it was. I explained:

If A, then B.
So, if ~B, then ~A.

For instance:

If it rains, I will go to the library.
If I am not at the library, it is not raining.

He didn't get that and said that you COULD be at the library if it isn't raining.
To which I replied that yes, you could be. The 'then' statement may be true without the 'if' statement.
But the 'if' statement can't be true if the 'then' statement isn't, because 'if... then' in logic implies NECESSARY connection.
He said that he could go to the library even if it didn't rain, that isn't realistic.
I pointed out that logic is not dependent on common sense. It is a closed system.
He kept arguing using postulates that did not relate to the original statement.

I used another example:

If you look in a mirror, then you see your reflection.
If you don't see your reflection, then you didn't look in a mirror.

He said "What about a water glass? You see your reflection in that!"

Now, this guy isn't stupid, so at this point I actually thought he was messing with me.

Told him we could make it an 'or' statement, like so:

If A or B, then C.
If ~C, then ~A and ~B.

(If you look in a mirror or a water glass, you see your reflection.
If you don't see your reflection, you are not looking in a mirror and you are also not looking into a water glass.)

FINALLY said OK, let's just call it "any reflective surface." "A" is not "Any reflective surface."

"OH, I get it, that's obvious," he said. "But I still think you're wrong. I'm going to go home and look it up and if it turns out you were wrong, I'll come back with another example. If it turns out you were right, I'll never bring it up again because I'd be embarrassed."


Male logic, not even once. SMH.

He is very smart emotionally, verbally, and otherwise, but apparently not at math. Oh well. Those areas are more important as a complement to me anyhow. It's just so annoying to argue something that is by definition inarguably true. LIKE LOGIC.

[Artemis00]

Actually I understand the logic you are using...the problem is that you used very bad examples to try to explain it to him which is why I completely see him not understanding and I can certainly see him challenging your claims.

Next time try using something like this...


"All bats are mammals"

"If something is a bat, then it is a mammal"
"If something is not a mammal, then it is not a bat."

[shesprints]

@ Artemis, it actually makes me feel a lot better that it may've been my poor examples that did it. He'll probably feel better when I tell him my examples were bad, and I feel better because at least someone (you) gets the logical principle I was driving at.

Sadly, this failure doesn't bode well for my teaching career.

@ Miranda et al talking about IF, I learned about it and was like "so... you skip breakfast? Revolutionary!" My mom always skips breakfast because she's groggy and nauseated in the morning. Told her about IF and she feels so much more justified.

[Meatros]

Actually I understand the logic you are using...the problem is that you used very bad examples to try to explain it to him which is why I completely see him not understanding and I can certainly see him challenging your claims.

Next time try using something like this...


"All bats are mammals"

"If something is a bat, then it is a mammal"
"If something is not a mammal, then it is not a bat."

I agree with Artemis here, you need to bring it down a notch. When I learned logic (well, a few systems, certainly not all), it was always helpful to put it into language, not the mathematical formula. There was a logic book that I got one time that came with a CD, which really helped. I think it went over propositional logic, Aristotelian logic, and a few others (it's been a while), but I remember going through the CD and it was really easy to get.

I always mean to break it out and go over that stuff again.

Last night I was having some sort of discussion with my BF, I think about how systems of thought may be innate. (Like Steven Pinker's 'Language Instinct' and also the system of math).

I haven't read Pinker (although I plan to, if I can ever find the time) but I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. It seems to me that, in context to the rest of your post, you are suggesting that abduction, induction, and deduction are innate? If so, I can agree with that - we are pattern seeking creatures and it has certainly helped our survival to be able to make some abductive leaps. If you aren't saying that, can you please clarify?

[Artemis00]

Sadly, this failure doesn't bode well for my teaching career.

Okay...well I disagree with you hear. The fact that you were willing to take the information that was provided to you and see how it applies rather than just think (my examples are good enough)...shows you have an open mind and will work well with you in your teaching career.

[Meatros]

@ Artemis, it actually makes me feel a lot better that it may've been my poor examples that did it. He'll probably feel better when I tell him my examples were bad, and I feel better because at least someone (you) gets the logical principle I was driving at.

Sadly, this failure doesn't bode well for my teaching career.

To be fair, the dynamic between teacher-student and BF-GF is a lot different, so I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. Your BF might have a casual interest, whereas the students need to have a real interest in learning the material. As long as you are willing to work with your students, you should be okay. My teacher was an A-hole who got all chitty with me when I wouldn't take his special course on philosophy. To be fair, he selected the students who could take that course (it had a limited amount of slots) and he really wanted me to take it, but I didn't have the money. When I told him this he wasn't very understanding. The whole thing kind of sucked because my wife and I had gone over to his house, had dinner with him, and hung out with him a few times. All of that was over with because I couldn't shell out the thousand dollars (or whatever it was) to go to his special class in the middle of the work day...

It's been 10+ years, but I guess that still rustles my jimmies.

[shesprints]

I haven't read Pinker (although I plan to, if I can ever find the time) but I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. It seems to me that, in context to the rest of your post, you are suggesting that abduction, induction, and deduction are innate? If so, I can agree with that - we are pattern seeking creatures and it has certainly helped our survival to be able to make some abductive leaps. If you aren't saying that, can you please clarify?

That's exactly what I mean, you've got it. I was also talking to him about the idea of Chomsky and Pinker's that some of linguistic structure, though not actual words, is innate. You know, the concept of using a noun to name something or a verb to describe an action, though the words themselves are arbitrary. That's how I got sidetracked into logic, I was discussing how symbols can replace words in thought.

It was kind of a long (and mostly fun) discussion. Happy to talk philosophy with anyone anytime, especially cognitive science and linguistics, as that was my focus in school.

To your second point, yeah, it's definitely different with a boyfriend versus a student. But this is a good reminder that I need to keep things clear and not go off on tangents, as is my wont. And it sucks that your prof was so lousy--good teachers shouldn't just care about you if you are in their class, I have profs I still talk to years later.

@Artemis That's nice to hear.

[PunkyCindy]

Okay...well I disagree with you hear. The fact that you were willing to take the information that was provided to you and see how it applies rather than just think (my examples are good enough)...shows you have an open mind and will work well with you in your teaching career.

for what it's worth, I agree with this

[mrshester]

Family is so important to me, and I assumed it was to the rest of my extended family. Hubs and I try to make a point of coming to the various bday parties thrown for my cousins, and I have a LOT of cousins. I love it though, I love them, and my heart is that if you can't be there for your family...well, it hurts. I had ONE aunt out of my large extended family come to my son's bday party. Only one RSVP from an uncle that he wouldn't make it. My grandfather wasn't there and has 6 sons, five are my uncles. Not a single one of them showed up at my nephews bday last spring. My mom, stepdad, hubs and I and little man were the only people who came. She had cooked hamburgers and everything. I was so pissed and embarrassed for her. Family. Little man had a good time, I'm just so glad he can't feel like I felt today. I know it's just a bday party...still rustles me up though.

[iPsylocke]

I've been cutting for a week now and have lost a pound overall.

Gawwwwd this is going to take foreverrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GreekyBeth]

I've been cutting for a week now and have lost a pound overall.

Gawwwwd this is going to take foreverrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's why I NEVER cut. Lol. Hang in there.

[Hannah82]

When the ladies on the today show say they like Chris Hemsworth look for his new movie role @ 30lbs lighter better than his look for Thor. Fuk. Off. Savannah Guthrie don't know chit!

[shesprints]

Feel bad when I judge people in my head for doing exercises in crazy ways. I don't say anything but I feel judgmental. Seriously though, if your renegade rows resemble the Downward Dog and you're shifting all over the place, arm to arm, leg to leg, with zero core engagement... I'm going to judge you a little bit.

But then I try to use it as a learning opportunity and judge my own form just as harshly, like for instance when my chinup ROM is lousy.

[mrshester]

When the ladies on the today show say they like Chris Hemsworth look for his new movie role @ 30lbs lighter better than his look for Thor. Fuk. Off. Savannah Guthrie don't know chit!

Whatever she's smoking....she got the bad stuff.

[Fawnl]

When the ladies on the today show say they like Chris Hemsworth look for his new movie role @ 30lbs lighter better than his look for Thor. Fuk. Off. Savannah Guthrie don't know chit!

Personally, I will take Chris Hemsworth any way I can get him...

[acrawlingchaos]

Feel bad when I judge people in my head for doing exercises in crazy ways. I don't say anything but I feel judgmental. Seriously though, if your renegade rows resemble the Downward Dog and you're shifting all over the place, arm to arm, leg to leg, with zero core engagement... I'm going to judge you a little bit.

But then I try to use it as a learning opportunity and judge my own form just as harshly, like for instance when my chinup ROM is lousy.

I feel the same way about journals here.

Based on the content of a lot of journals... it's difficult not to judge someone. Apparently the attention they get from the opposite sex is more important than working out. It's even better when you know the individual running the journal has a significant other.

I will admit, I can see how difficult it can be to progress if everyone is blowing smoke up your ass.

[Hannah82]

Right Fawn...but to say he looks BETTER with 30lb loss most of it LBM... she's gone soft in the head lol

[Fawnl]

Right Fawn...but to say he looks BETTER with 30lb loss most of it LBM... she's gone soft in the head lol

Wut? We should find her and educate her. Then we should find him, and educate him. I get to educate his pretty face first. With my vagina. You take the D to start.

[Artemis00]

Feel bad when I judge people in my head for doing exercises in crazy ways. I don't say anything but I feel judgmental. Seriously though, if your renegade rows resemble the Downward Dog and you're shifting all over the place, arm to arm, leg to leg, with zero core engagement... I'm going to judge you a little bit.

I'd just be impressed that they are actually attempting to do renegade rows. Love those (especially if I'm splitting back/abs), but most people have no clue what I'm talking about when I mention renegade rows, or have no idea what I am doing when I do those.

Honestly, nothing wrong with judging other people at the gym. I do that all the time. If I see them doing something with really bad form, it helps me to make sure my form is solid. And sometimes I get to learned a new exercise that I may not be familiar with or can apply some how.

[Wyomann]

I feel the same way about journals here.

Based on the content of a lot of journals... it's difficult not to judge someone. Apparently the attention they get from the opposite sex is more important than working out. It's even better when you know the individual running the journal has a significant other.

I will admit, I can see how difficult it can be to progress if everyone is blowing smoke up your ass.

Interdasting, logging is a hindrance versus a tool for improvement. The attention they receive is validating the workouts even though the workouts aren't that great? Is that what you mean? Thus they are spinning their wheels in reality.

[shesprints]

Interdasting, logging is a hindrance versus a tool for improvement. The attention they receive is validating the workouts even though the workouts aren't that great? Is that what you mean? Thus they are spinning their wheels in reality.

Being a self-centered and paranoid person I hope the original comment and this new comment are not passively directed at me. Because my training HAS kind sucked since I got injured and I acknowledge that, but it's hardly aimed toward getting male attention. So if anyone wants to come and honestly, bluntly critique my poor cobbled-together injury routine I welcome any sort of criticism.