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    Originally Posted by EB68 View Post
    I in no way implied that I think the government should rain jobs down on people, and I know government doesn't create jobs, Obama doesn't seem to understand this as his fix for this mess in his words is to hire more teachers and firemen and policemen. I just think the government should get the hell out of the way with all of their regulations and high taxes to blow on those who are too sorry to work.I have a great job myself, and have worked all of my life without depending on anyone. I just see alot of people struggling to find work because in my area their are building after building sitting empty from businesses going under and it sucks.
    i agree w/that.
    also, the pollution regulations that we have here, china for example does not have. thus much cheaper goods made there. thus, walmart is the number one retailer of china imports.

    so you are not speaking greek to us. we agree.

    i don't fully agree with you about outsourcing. heaven forbid a CEO making a few million, takes a pay cut or changes his bonus structure, to warrant keeping more jobs here. yes, the government plays a big role, but so does corporate greed. greed is a harder problem to solve, though.

    but how a CEO could layoff say 100+ people, and not take a paycut, and yet, his stocks go up? that is not the government, that is greed. and that happens all the time.

    the corporate world could take a few lessons from warren buffet.

    edit to add >> i don't begrudge anyone their earned due. If you work hard, and you earn being a millionaire, great. but if your company is struggling ...for whatever the reasons...from a humanitarian standpoint...think of every way you can keep your staff working, even if that means the CEO and the rest of top mgmt, takes a huge paycut to do it. Until you get back on your feet. I worked for a company a few years back whereby the CEO didn't receive a salary for one year, to keep employees. That showed incredibly humility in a time where people were truly worried if they were going to be jobless or not. (in the $40 to 60k salary brackets)

    Not only will you keep your employees, but the productivity of those who viewed that CEO as going above and beyond, soared.

    Win win for everyone.

    I'm being simplistic, and I understand that outsourcing isn't as cut and dry as this. But, it's not as cut and dry as you say, either. Somewhere in the middle, perhaps.
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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    It's called three things depending on where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
    That is fuked up.

    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    Furthermore...look at history. Martin Luther King...that man faced TONS of opposition. But, he succeeded!

    Gandhi succeeded.

    These people faced immense obstacles, both personally and by their governments.

    So, losing a job might mean it's time to reinvent one's self. Might mean it's time to do something you never thought possible.
    I lost my job last year, rebounded, but took a pay cut. I don't blame the government for this.

    All I'm suggesting is, stop looking to the government for everything that might be wrong in your life. And you won't look to it to fix your life.

    I look to the government to protect this country, from outside threats. That's something I'm not able to do on my own. But, there's plenty we can do on our own, despite the government's intervention. (perceived and actual intervention)
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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    I honestly think people forget that this government was meant to be "For the people, by the people." or they have no idea what it means. Now they just let a bunch of out of touch representatives decide on things and then bitch about how horrible the situation is or the government isn't taking care them It comes down to personal responsibility and actually informing yourself on issues and the people that you decide to help put in power.
    Personal responsibility.

    What a novel idea.


    I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.

    Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
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    Originally Posted by RebeccaG View Post
    That is fuked up.



    Reps upon reps upon reps for you.

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    Personal responsibility.

    What a novel idea.


    I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.

    Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
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    yes, so agree with this.

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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    It's called three things depending on where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
    Never heard of them. Must not have any around here. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Originally Posted by RebeccaG View Post
    That is fuked up.



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    Personal responsibility.

    What a novel idea.


    I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.

    Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
    It's crazy little critter that fo sho!

    The availability of credit made it possible for so many people to live beyond their needs. The bankruptcy rate lately has been crazy.

    I've had some pretty tough situations, currently in one now but I'm not blaming the government. At one point I was unemployed from 2008-2010, applied everywhere with no luck, I knew the situation for what it was, companies afraid to hire because of the economic crash and they would prefer to hire people with less experience to pay them less and not have to schedule full time hours. Was this the governments fault? Not entirely, I agree that bad policies going back decades came down to an explosive crash. Companies were looking for anyway to save a buck because they did not know what would happen with economy and once ACA was passed it became worse. Was this right? Yes and no, they were trying to protect the business and the employees they had left, well most companies.

    Instead of having a poor me the government sucks and that's why I can't get a job, I decided to go back to school. I've had to take out student loans to live on and I accept that I will need to pay those back, the government owes me nothing in that regard. The only thing I took advantage of during that time was unemployment and only because I have been paying into that system for over ten years
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    Originally Posted by RebeccaG View Post
    What a novel idea.


    I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.
    This is so true. The lenders in the mortgage industries had so many schemes they used to make it look like people could afford housing it is mind blowing. When we had to become licensed to even take a mortgage application after all this went down we had an entire section in our study guides which went over some of these and to say I was shocked is an under statement. I mean they had people sign quit claim deeds the same day they closed on mortgages so that when the foreclosure was the only option they did not have to go through attorneys to complete the foreclosure process. I mean really?

    Any person with common sense knows what they can and cannot afford so it is not just the fault of these lenders... it was the consumers too. I am going to buy a $500k house I cannot afford and live there until they foreclose so I can look like I have lots of money. I just don't get it! Then they want to turn around and b*tch about losing their home! If you make $5000 a month and your payment plus insurance is $4000 uh... you can't afford it.
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    I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.

    That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.

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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.

    That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
    With you on this one and I am preparing to see less of my paycheck in the upcoming months
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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.

    That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
    you got me there.
    agree, but we shall see. it might not be as bleak we think it might.

    on an unrelated topic...does anyone here click the 'email notification' feature related to their pm's? i have it clicked, but when i get a new pm, it doesn't go to the email. just wondering if there's a glitch...

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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    you got me there.
    agree, but we shall see. it might not be as bleak we think it might.

    on an unrelated topic...does anyone here click the 'email notification' feature related to their pm's? i have it clicked, but when i get a new pm, it doesn't go to the email. just wondering if there's a glitch...
    Nope. Mine has been working. Actually got notification a little earlier today.
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    Originally Posted by danap3681 View Post
    Nope. Mine has been working. Actually got notification a little earlier today.
    hmmm...how strange.
    ok, thanks dana!

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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.

    That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
    More people should do that seriously. I wish I would have had my eyes opened a lot sooner but at least now I know and thanks to the previous situation this one isn't nearly as bad, tough but not as stressful.

    Anything forced by federal regulation such as tax and now healthcare, yes its affects most of us to be sure.
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    we got big spiders here too and you know the Florida bugs they pack guns lol
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    Originally Posted by Botika View Post
    I'll raise you a spider.....

    I love tarantulas .. I wish i could have a few
    they get such a bad name because of how they look but they are quite docile and smart creatures

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    BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!

    Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!

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    Originally Posted by Botika View Post
    BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!

    Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
    Mexican red knee ... tarantulas aren't very poisonous even the large ones
    and most of them are not aggressive at all, they make great pets and eat nasty bugs
    don't know why people are afraid of them
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    Originally Posted by Botika View Post
    BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!

    Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
    I scream like a sissy when I see one. # 1 fear SPIDERS # 2 fear LIZARDS!!!!!
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    Originally Posted by Botika View Post
    BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!

    Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
    I had this happen recently. Time stands still in the time it takes to figure out if the spider is inside or outside the car window.

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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    Mexican red knee ... tarantulas aren't very poisonous even the large ones
    and most of them are not aggressive at all, they make great pets and eat nasty bugs
    don't know why people are afraid of them
    Because nothing should have that many legs. It is unnatural.

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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    I love tarantulas .. I wish i could have a few
    they get such a bad name because of how they look but they are quite docile and smart creatures

    I'll one up you
    I like spiders too. Outside our house there are a lot of spider webs and spiders about the size of a quarter. Sometimes I'll catch moths and throw them into the spider web to feed my pet spiders.

    They are almost all gone now since it's getting colder

    I don't mind them being there, but the first sign of a spider bite and they'll go bye bye.
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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    Mexican red knee ... tarantulas aren't very poisonous even the large ones
    and most of them are not aggressive at all, they make great pets and eat nasty bugs
    don't know why people are afraid of them
    How do spiders make good pets? Do they come greet you after work? Snuggle? Play? Cats and dogs make good pets. Children probably make good pets . Spiders? Meh...
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    How do spiders make good pets? Do they come greet you after work? Snuggle? Play? Cats and dogs make good pets. Children probably make good pets . Spiders? Meh...
    Now that is funny

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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    How do spiders make good pets? Do they come greet you after work? Snuggle? Play? Cats and dogs make good pets. Children probably make good pets . Spiders? Meh...
    Children DO NOT make good pets.

    I have 2.

    They are hard as hell to house train, you can't just buy a bag of food and be done with it and putting them in a kennel or on a leash is highly frowned upon.

    Not only that, their life span is just ridiculous.

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    Originally Posted by RebeccaG View Post
    Children DO NOT make good pets.

    I have 2.

    They are hard as hell to house train, you can't just buy a bag of food and be done with it and putting them in a kennel or on a leash is highly frowned upon.

    Not only that, their life span is just ridiculous.

    Talk about a commitment!
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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    Australia, how you live with spiders like that?

    i'd have to move! omg...no....and i bet they are fast too

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