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11-08-2012, 11:46 AM
#3121
10th Avenue N. ;)
Originally Posted by EB68
I in no way implied that I think the government should rain jobs down on people, and I know government doesn't create jobs, Obama doesn't seem to understand this as his fix for this mess in his words is to hire more teachers and firemen and policemen. I just think the government should get the hell out of the way with all of their regulations and high taxes to blow on those who are too sorry to work.I have a great job myself, and have worked all of my life without depending on anyone. I just see alot of people struggling to find work because in my area their are building after building sitting empty from businesses going under and it sucks.
i agree w/that.
also, the pollution regulations that we have here, china for example does not have. thus much cheaper goods made there. thus, walmart is the number one retailer of china imports.
so you are not speaking greek to us. we agree.
i don't fully agree with you about outsourcing. heaven forbid a CEO making a few million, takes a pay cut or changes his bonus structure, to warrant keeping more jobs here. yes, the government plays a big role, but so does corporate greed. greed is a harder problem to solve, though.
but how a CEO could layoff say 100+ people, and not take a paycut, and yet, his stocks go up? that is not the government, that is greed. and that happens all the time.
the corporate world could take a few lessons from warren buffet. 
edit to add >> i don't begrudge anyone their earned due. If you work hard, and you earn being a millionaire, great. but if your company is struggling ...for whatever the reasons...from a humanitarian standpoint...think of every way you can keep your staff working, even if that means the CEO and the rest of top mgmt, takes a huge paycut to do it. Until you get back on your feet. I worked for a company a few years back whereby the CEO didn't receive a salary for one year, to keep employees. That showed incredibly humility in a time where people were truly worried if they were going to be jobless or not. (in the $40 to 60k salary brackets)
Not only will you keep your employees, but the productivity of those who viewed that CEO as going above and beyond, soared.
Win win for everyone.
I'm being simplistic, and I understand that outsourcing isn't as cut and dry as this. But, it's not as cut and dry as you say, either. Somewhere in the middle, perhaps.
Last edited by whatevergirl; 11-08-2012 at 12:00 PM.
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11-08-2012, 12:01 PM
#3122
Canadian Bish
Originally Posted by Echo814
It's called three things depending on where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
That is fuked up.
Originally Posted by whatevergirl
Furthermore...look at history. Martin Luther King...that man faced TONS of opposition. But, he succeeded!
Gandhi succeeded.
These people faced immense obstacles, both personally and by their governments.
So, losing a job might mean it's time to reinvent one's self. Might mean it's time to do something you never thought possible.
I lost my job last year, rebounded, but took a pay cut. I don't blame the government for this.
All I'm suggesting is, stop looking to the government for everything that might be wrong in your life. And you won't look to it to fix your life.
I look to the government to protect this country, from outside threats. That's something I'm not able to do on my own. But, there's plenty we can do on our own, despite the government's intervention. (perceived and actual intervention)
Reps upon reps upon reps for you.
Times infinity.
Originally Posted by Echo814
I honestly think people forget that this government was meant to be "For the people, by the people." or they have no idea what it means. Now they just let a bunch of out of touch representatives decide on things and then bitch about how horrible the situation is or the government isn't taking care them  It comes down to personal responsibility and actually informing yourself on issues and the people that you decide to help put in power.
Personal responsibility.
What a novel idea.
I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.
Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
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11-08-2012, 12:07 PM
#3123
10th Avenue N. ;)
Originally Posted by RebeccaG
That is fuked up.
Reps upon reps upon reps for you.
Times infinity.
Personal responsibility.
What a novel idea.
I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.
Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
smooches beyond smooches for you! 
yes, so agree with this.
lol @ nut up
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11-08-2012, 12:22 PM
#3124
Wearing Muscles 24/7
Originally Posted by Echo814
It's called three things depending on where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
Never heard of them. Must not have any around here. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the "Nuh" but you can call me Dana aka the Picasso of pubes,The Rembrandt of rug,The Dali of down south!
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11-08-2012, 12:23 PM
#3125
Oh My DAYUM!!!
Originally Posted by RebeccaG
That is fuked up.
Reps upon reps upon reps for you.
Times infinity.
Personal responsibility.
What a novel idea.
I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.
Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
It's crazy little critter that fo sho!
The availability of credit made it possible for so many people to live beyond their needs. The bankruptcy rate lately has been crazy.
I've had some pretty tough situations, currently in one now but I'm not blaming the government. At one point I was unemployed from 2008-2010, applied everywhere with no luck, I knew the situation for what it was, companies afraid to hire because of the economic crash and they would prefer to hire people with less experience to pay them less and not have to schedule full time hours. Was this the governments fault? Not entirely, I agree that bad policies going back decades came down to an explosive crash. Companies were looking for anyway to save a buck because they did not know what would happen with economy and once ACA was passed it became worse. Was this right? Yes and no, they were trying to protect the business and the employees they had left, well most companies.
Instead of having a poor me the government sucks and that's why I can't get a job, I decided to go back to school. I've had to take out student loans to live on and I accept that I will need to pay those back, the government owes me nothing in that regard. The only thing I took advantage of during that time was unemployment and only because I have been paying into that system for over ten years
That which does not kill me, better run like hell!!!
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11-08-2012, 01:21 PM
#3126
Wearing Muscles 24/7
Originally Posted by RebeccaG
What a novel idea.
I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.
This is so true. The lenders in the mortgage industries had so many schemes they used to make it look like people could afford housing it is mind blowing. When we had to become licensed to even take a mortgage application after all this went down we had an entire section in our study guides which went over some of these and to say I was shocked is an under statement. I mean they had people sign quit claim deeds the same day they closed on mortgages so that when the foreclosure was the only option they did not have to go through attorneys to complete the foreclosure process. I mean really?
Any person with common sense knows what they can and cannot afford so it is not just the fault of these lenders... it was the consumers too. I am going to buy a $500k house I cannot afford and live there until they foreclose so I can look like I have lots of money. I just don't get it! Then they want to turn around and b*tch about losing their home! If you make $5000 a month and your payment plus insurance is $4000 uh... you can't afford it.
I am the "Nuh" but you can call me Dana aka the Picasso of pubes,The Rembrandt of rug,The Dali of down south!
DSC***Dirty Southern Gal ***DSC
I drink my Dunkin Donuts Dub style,workout Pratherian style & summon the Strength of the Gods through Bando
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11-08-2012, 01:26 PM
#3127
Registered User
I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.
That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
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11-08-2012, 01:30 PM
#3128
Wearing Muscles 24/7
Originally Posted by penny0527
I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.
That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
With you on this one and I am preparing to see less of my paycheck in the upcoming months
I am the "Nuh" but you can call me Dana aka the Picasso of pubes,The Rembrandt of rug,The Dali of down south!
DSC***Dirty Southern Gal ***DSC
I drink my Dunkin Donuts Dub style,workout Pratherian style & summon the Strength of the Gods through Bando
Forever e-friends with Vex and his recovering double barrell bung & enexi0688, the inventor of the new poop workout: Turning around to courtesy flush while staying seated, works abs.
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11-08-2012, 01:32 PM
#3129
10th Avenue N. ;)
Originally Posted by penny0527
I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.
That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
you got me there. 
agree, but we shall see. it might not be as bleak we think it might.
on an unrelated topic...does anyone here click the 'email notification' feature related to their pm's? i have it clicked, but when i get a new pm, it doesn't go to the email. just wondering if there's a glitch...
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11-08-2012, 01:34 PM
#3130
Wearing Muscles 24/7
Originally Posted by whatevergirl
you got me there. 
agree, but we shall see. it might not be as bleak we think it might.
on an unrelated topic...does anyone here click the 'email notification' feature related to their pm's? i have it clicked, but when i get a new pm, it doesn't go to the email.  just wondering if there's a glitch...
Nope. Mine has been working. Actually got notification a little earlier today.
I am the "Nuh" but you can call me Dana aka the Picasso of pubes,The Rembrandt of rug,The Dali of down south!
DSC***Dirty Southern Gal ***DSC
I drink my Dunkin Donuts Dub style,workout Pratherian style & summon the Strength of the Gods through Bando
Forever e-friends with Vex and his recovering double barrell bung & enexi0688, the inventor of the new poop workout: Turning around to courtesy flush while staying seated, works abs.
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11-08-2012, 01:36 PM
#3131
10th Avenue N. ;)
Originally Posted by danap3681
Nope. Mine has been working. Actually got notification a little earlier today.
hmmm...how strange. 
ok, thanks dana!
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11-08-2012, 01:39 PM
#3132
Oh My DAYUM!!!
Originally Posted by penny0527
I do not live beyond my means. I have money saved. I have retirements accounts as well. I do not have problems paying my bills.
That being said when the government controls how much of my paycheck I see and how much I spend on health insurance I have a problem not saying the govt directly affects me.
More people should do that seriously. I wish I would have had my eyes opened a lot sooner but at least now I know and thanks to the previous situation this one isn't nearly as bad, tough but not as stressful.
Anything forced by federal regulation such as tax and now healthcare, yes its affects most of us to be sure.
That which does not kill me, better run like hell!!!
Never take your home gym for granted, one day it will not be there and then you have to deal with people.
I like eating, it helps with the not dying.
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11-08-2012, 01:40 PM
#3133
Upgrade in Progress
Originally Posted by BrotherWolf
we got big spiders here too and you know the Florida bugs they pack guns lol
I'll raise you a spider..... 
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11-08-2012, 01:47 PM
#3134
registered boozer
Originally Posted by Botika
I'll raise you a spider.....

I love tarantulas .. I wish i could have a few
they get such a bad name because of how they look but they are quite docile and smart creatures
I'll one up you 
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11-08-2012, 01:50 PM
#3135
Wearing Muscles 24/7
Okay !!! I am very afraid of spiders so you all are freaking me out a little bit. There was one in my car the other day and I almost wrecked trying to kill it.
I am the "Nuh" but you can call me Dana aka the Picasso of pubes,The Rembrandt of rug,The Dali of down south!
DSC***Dirty Southern Gal ***DSC
I drink my Dunkin Donuts Dub style,workout Pratherian style & summon the Strength of the Gods through Bando
Forever e-friends with Vex and his recovering double barrell bung & enexi0688, the inventor of the new poop workout: Turning around to courtesy flush while staying seated, works abs.
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11-08-2012, 01:51 PM
#3136
Upgrade in Progress
BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!
Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
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11-08-2012, 01:55 PM
#3137
registered boozer
Originally Posted by Botika
BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!
Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
Mexican red knee ... tarantulas aren't very poisonous even the large ones
and most of them are not aggressive at all, they make great pets and eat nasty bugs
don't know why people are afraid of them
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"Artistry .. shooting guns for cardio"
"More squats=More penguin walk"
AlterEgoErin
vegetables are what food eat....
If everything seems under control you're just not going fast enough..
Mario Andretti
My 5x5 journal
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=113745851
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11-08-2012, 01:56 PM
#3138
Wearing Muscles 24/7
Originally Posted by Botika
BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!
Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
I scream like a sissy when I see one. # 1 fear SPIDERS # 2 fear LIZARDS!!!!!
I am the "Nuh" but you can call me Dana aka the Picasso of pubes,The Rembrandt of rug,The Dali of down south!
DSC***Dirty Southern Gal ***DSC
I drink my Dunkin Donuts Dub style,workout Pratherian style & summon the Strength of the Gods through Bando
Forever e-friends with Vex and his recovering double barrell bung & enexi0688, the inventor of the new poop workout: Turning around to courtesy flush while staying seated, works abs.
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11-08-2012, 02:19 PM
#3139
cutting sucks
I hate spiders, snakes, and scorpions. Unfortunately they are everywhere around here. I have killed two scorpions in the basement this week where I lift. I am getting paranoid down there when I pick something up. Will be glad when they have gone away completely for the winter.
Eric
PR's
squat 315x2
benchpress 245x1
Bent over rows 245x8
deadlifts 435x1
Military press 130x6
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11-08-2012, 02:21 PM
#3140
Registered User
Originally Posted by Botika
BW- What type is that? I posted a funnel-web spider, they are nasty!
Dana- that happened to me too. One ran across my windscreen and I had a moment of panic trying to work out whether it was on the inside it outside. Thankfully outside!!
I had this happen recently. Time stands still in the time it takes to figure out if the spider is inside or outside the car window.
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11-08-2012, 02:22 PM
#3141
Registered User
Originally Posted by BrotherWolf
Mexican red knee ... tarantulas aren't very poisonous even the large ones
and most of them are not aggressive at all, they make great pets and eat nasty bugs
don't know why people are afraid of them
Because nothing should have that many legs. It is unnatural.
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11-08-2012, 02:26 PM
#3142
135 IQ, damn near genius
Originally Posted by BrotherWolf
I love tarantulas .. I wish i could have a few
they get such a bad name because of how they look but they are quite docile and smart creatures
I'll one up you 
I like spiders too. Outside our house there are a lot of spider webs and spiders about the size of a quarter. Sometimes I'll catch moths and throw them into the spider web to feed my pet spiders.
They are almost all gone now since it's getting colder 
I don't mind them being there, but the first sign of a spider bite and they'll go bye bye.
The sweet is never as sweet without the sour.
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11-08-2012, 02:34 PM
#3143
S1NN3R G0N3 G00D
work with two women sitting behind me in the office, god man stop fuking yapping and gossiping, fuarking ey man.
EX YU Mafia #1 ----Cant Touch Us----
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Its not important what they say behind my back, what is Important is whether they stop talking and look down when I turn around.
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11-08-2012, 02:54 PM
#3144
Registered User
Originally Posted by BrotherWolf
Mexican red knee ... tarantulas aren't very poisonous even the large ones
and most of them are not aggressive at all, they make great pets and eat nasty bugs
don't know why people are afraid of them
How do spiders make good pets? Do they come greet you after work? Snuggle? Play? Cats and dogs make good pets. Children probably make good pets . Spiders? Meh...
I try to rep back, but I always neg back.
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11-08-2012, 02:57 PM
#3145
Upgrade in Progress
Roaches... I hate roaches. The way they scuttle gives me the heebiejeebies.
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11-08-2012, 03:05 PM
#3146
Registered User
Originally Posted by sy2502
How do spiders make good pets? Do they come greet you after work? Snuggle? Play? Cats and dogs make good pets. Children probably make good pets  . Spiders? Meh...
Now that is funny
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11-08-2012, 03:15 PM
#3147
Canadian Bish
Originally Posted by sy2502
How do spiders make good pets? Do they come greet you after work? Snuggle? Play? Cats and dogs make good pets. Children probably make good pets  . Spiders? Meh...
Children DO NOT make good pets.
I have 2.
They are hard as hell to house train, you can't just buy a bag of food and be done with it and putting them in a kennel or on a leash is highly frowned upon.
Not only that, their life span is just ridiculous.
Talk about a commitment!
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11-08-2012, 03:15 PM
#3148
Oh My DAYUM!!!
Australia, how you live with spiders like that?
That which does not kill me, better run like hell!!!
Never take your home gym for granted, one day it will not be there and then you have to deal with people.
I like eating, it helps with the not dying.
"Do it now cause 'tomorrow' ain't promised 'today'" Ludacris
If this were easy, everyone would walk around ripped.
Journal: Back in Black
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120569281
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11-08-2012, 03:17 PM
#3149
cutting sucks
Originally Posted by RebeccaG
Children DO NOT make good pets.
I have 2.
They are hard as hell to house train, you can't just buy a bag of food and be done with it and putting them in a kennel or on a leash is highly frowned upon.
Not only that, their life span is just ridiculous.
Talk about a commitment!
That is funny.
Eric
PR's
squat 315x2
benchpress 245x1
Bent over rows 245x8
deadlifts 435x1
Military press 130x6
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144259741 My workout journal
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11-08-2012, 03:18 PM
#3150
10th Avenue N. ;)
Originally Posted by Echo814
Australia, how you live with spiders like that?

i'd have to move! omg...no....and i bet they are fast too
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