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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    Come to Texas. we have these huge roaches that fly.
    Yeah I know you do , spiders don't bother me at all but roaches that fly uhggg
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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    Yeah I know you do , spiders don't bother me at all but roaches that fly uhggg
    I am terrified of both.

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    Originally Posted by BrotherWolf View Post
    that's how it was when I lived in Panama .. check your shoes for scorpions and spiders every morning, routine
    I was warned to check shoes for scorpions when I lived in south Texas...fortunately, I never came across any...heebie jeebies!!
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    I much prefer discussion of insects of the political variety than those on this page.

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    Originally Posted by NotBigEnough206 View Post
    Didnt vote at all or care actually.

    Was just trying to rustle Danas Jimmies for voting for Romney lol.
    LOL! I figured you were trying to get under my skin. Hey I voted for Romney and very proud I did although he did not win. You can't win them all. I will just watch my taxes increase and my health insurance premiums continue to skyrocket for the next 4 years. Same with Obama or Romney. Feels like all I work for these days is taxes and to help everyone else out and I don't get sh*t in return!!!!

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    I posted in the ov35 my thoughts on the whole presidential thing.
    No administration or president should have that much power over your life, that you think your life will actually become better or worse, if he/she is elected. (unless of course, you live under a dictatorship)

    And no president can change the damage that's been done...not in 4 or 8 years. Can a president make laws that can make things worse? Yes, but no one person should make or break your life, and if so, that means you are not in control of your own destiny.

    The government doesn't control each of our destinies. The press would have us believe this...but it's simply not true.

    No one will ride in on a white horse, to save this country. It takes getting back to working hard, and believing in one's self. The government should be there for a helping hand if you end up down and out, but it shouldn't be a crutch because you don't want to take responsibility for your own choices.

    And many in our history faced opposition, but still moved forward. Martin Luther King, for example. He faced tons of opposition. So, yes...we may face government changes that work against our own values and despite our hard work, we may have to pay more taxes. But, that doesn't mean we stop believing in ourselves, and working hard.

    I will never place my own destiny in the hands of the government. This isn't nazi germany, folks. And even that 'party' sunk, eventually.

    Don't despair. If your 'guy' didn't get into office...keep the faith! Believe in yourself. And work hard. It will pay off.

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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    I posted in the ov35 my thoughts on the whole presidential thing.
    No administration or president should have that much power over your life, that you think your life will actually become better or worse, if he/she is elected. (unless of course, you live under a dictatorship)

    And no president can change the damage that's been done...not in 4 or 8 years. Can a president make laws that can make things worse? Yes, but no one person should make or break your life, and if so, that means you are not in control of your own destiny.

    The government doesn't control each of our destinies. The press would have us believe this...but it's simply not true.

    No one will ride in on a white horse, to save this country. It takes getting back to working hard, and believing in one's self. The government should be there for a helping hand if you end up down and out, but it shouldn't be a crutch because you don't want to take responsibility for your own choices.
    Very well said WEG Saw on the news this morning all the clips from REP and DEMS showing they want to unite to make positive changes and all that baloney! It will never last. Would be nice if it did but not a snowballs chance in hell.
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    Originally Posted by danap3681 View Post
    Very well said WEG Saw on the news this morning all the clips from REP and DEMS showing they want to unite to make positive changes and all that baloney! It will never last. Would be nice if it did but not a snowballs chance in hell.
    Really! lol

    Honestly? If the news stations, barring the weather person, all went bankrupt tomorrow? Nothing would change in my life.

    I have no faith that what I'm hearing anymore is accurate. I feel they are nothing more than ratings mongers, now, sadly.
    bla bla bla all white noise. lol

    When you see less greed, and more jobs...and people actually believing that they are not puppets and the government is the puppeteer, then we will see change.

    True change can be seen...

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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    Really! lol

    Honestly? If the news stations, barring the weather person, all went bankrupt tomorrow? Nothing would change in my life.

    I have no faith that what I'm hearing anymore is accurate. I feel they are nothing more than ratings mongers, now, sadly.
    bla bla bla all white noise. lol

    When you see less greed, and more jobs...and people actually believing that they are not puppets and the government is the puppeteer, then we will see change.

    True change can be seen...
    My husband and his brother are news freaks! Changing from station to station, arguing with the television. Me??? Nah. I would rather watch an infomercial about a mixer or state of the art slicing device. LOL!
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    haha dana!

    that said, you don't wanna know what i watch, when i do watch tv.
    nothing but mind numbing junk and the occasional lifetime movie.

    oh noes!
    my credability factor just plummeted.

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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    Ever wake up with one of these in your bed?
    tell me that's not actually the size of that thing?

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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    haha dana!

    that said, you don't wanna know what i watch, when i do watch tv.
    nothing but mind numbing junk and the occasional lifetime movie.

    oh noes!
    my credability factor just plummeted.
    I enjoy the fluff TV too...the rest of my life is serious enough, haha!
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    Originally Posted by taiga1 View Post
    I enjoy the fluff TV too...the rest of my life is serious enough, haha!
    exxxxactly!

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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    I posted in the ov35 my thoughts on the whole presidential thing.
    No administration or president should have that much power over your life, that you think your life will actually become better or worse, if he/she is elected. (unless of course, you live under a dictatorship)

    And no president can change the damage that's been done...not in 4 or 8 years. Can a president make laws that can make things worse? Yes, but no one person should make or break your life, and if so, that means you are not in control of your own destiny.

    The government doesn't control each of our destinies. The press would have us believe this...but it's simply not true.

    No one will ride in on a white horse, to save this country. It takes getting back to working hard, and believing in one's self. The government should be there for a helping hand if you end up down and out, but it shouldn't be a crutch because you don't want to take responsibility for your own choices.

    And many in our history faced opposition, but still moved forward. Martin Luther King, for example. He faced tons of opposition. So, yes...we may face government changes that work against our own values and despite our hard work, we may have to pay more taxes. But, that doesn't mean we stop believing in ourselves, and working hard.

    I will never place my own destiny in the hands of the government. This isn't nazi germany, folks. And even that 'party' sunk, eventually.

    Don't despair. If your 'guy' didn't get into office...keep the faith! Believe in yourself. And work hard. It will pay off.
    That all sounds really good, like unicorns and rainbows good. It is hard to just say work hard when 23,000,000 people can't find a job and businesses are going under on a daily basis though. Raising taxes on business owners will just further the issue, they will lay off more people, and the new healtcare sham will put hundreds of thousands out of a job. Hopefully I am wrong and I am not going to worry about it myself, but if the majority of those who lose their jobs are the same that voted for the current administration it will make me smile.
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    Originally Posted by Musc1eBound View Post
    DID I read it? I took a pic of it and placed it on the ceiling above my bed. Thanks again. Umm, I don't know about soon, probably sometime next year. I want to grow a little before I compete again, plus I'm enjoying food like never before, everything tastes so much better now lol.
    It's probably what I would have written, but was worried of sounding weird or creepy or cougary or something like that.
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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    tell me that's not actually the size of that thing?
    They can get pretty big, about 2 1/2 inches. Love living in the southwest.
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    Originally Posted by EB68 View Post
    That all sounds really good, like unicorns and rainbows good. It is hard to just say work hard when 23,000,000 people can't find a job and businesses are going under on a daily basis though. Raising taxes on business owners will just further the issue, they will lay off more people, and the new healtcare sham will put hundreds of thousands out of a job. Hopefully I am wrong and I am not going to worry about it myself, but if the majority of those who lose their jobs are the same that voted for the current administration it will make me smile.
    that shouldn't make you smile, though. because no matter who we voted for here, to a certain degree, we could only believe what we were told. coupled with if someone is a staunch democrat or repub no matter who runs for president, that can also make a difference.

    but, more of what i'm saying is that this administration can make things worse, but it's not the government's fault, end of story, that the country is in the financial shape it's in. there are other mitigating factors.

    the government doesn't 'create' jobs. yes, they can tax employers highly, and make it harder for those employers to hire people. but, there are other mitigating factors.

    many companies were doing poorly before obama took office. and thus, laying off lots of their workforce. who's fault was that?
    i blame greed, outsourcing, and a skewed business model that many corporations now follow. (stockholders first, top management second, customers third, and employees last)

    to me, the problems in our economy have more to do with a fundamental shift in values and principles. (and work ethic) Somewhere along the way, our society made this shift from taking responsbility for our own destinies, and believing that the government somehow controls it.

    that said, the government can cause opposition and struggle, depending on taxation laws, and how it governs. but, to blame the economy on one administration (or 5) and/or believe that one administration can turn this ship around in 4 or 8 years...is rainbows and unicorns.

    This country was built on opposition and struggle. Some of the strongest small businesses were started during down economic turns. So, yes, the government does impact things, but not to the extent the media would have us believe it. This is not a dictatorship.

    So don't gloat should an obama supporter lose his/her job over the next four years. Because that mindset is precisely the problem. We are all in the same side. Different religions, ethnicities, beliefs, etc...but we should all want what is best for each other. This divided way of thinking, is also why we're in this mess.

    That said, I empathize with everything you said.
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    Originally Posted by danap3681 View Post
    What the hell is that?? Looks like a huge ant!
    It's called three things depending on where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    It's called three things depending and where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
    I'd scream too if someone 5 million times my size was trying to squash me!

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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    the government doesn't 'create' jobs.
    ^^ THIS ^^^ so many times this!!!

    The government doesn't create jobs, entrepreneurs create jobs. The government can make it easier or harder for them to do so. Also the government can encourage business to cut jobs by raising the cost of the workforce. But at the end of the day, when people just stand around waiting for the government to rain jobs onto them from the sky, that's when things go really wrong.
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    ^^ THIS ^^^ so many times this!!!

    The government doesn't create jobs, entrepreneurs create jobs. The government can make it easier or harder for them to do so. Also the government can encourage business to cut jobs by raising the cost of the workforce. But at the end of the day, when people just stand around waiting for the government to rain jobs onto them from the sky, that's when things go really wrong.
    exactly. it's not the government's fault that we believe falsehoods. lol
    second, i don't believe that obama is the right leader to lead this country right now.

    but, that said. he didn't cause this mess. neither did many others.
    it was a cooperative effort between the government and its people.
    and until people stop looking to the government 'for change,' then things will remain the same or get worse.

    whether obama won or not--i still have a lot within my power to control in my own financial and career life.

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    Furthermore...look at history. Martin Luther King...that man faced TONS of opposition. But, he succeeded!

    Gandhi succeeded.

    These people faced immense obstacles, both personally and by their governments.

    So, losing a job might mean it's time to reinvent one's self. Might mean it's time to do something you never thought possible.
    I lost my job last year, rebounded, but took a pay cut. I don't blame the government for this.

    All I'm suggesting is, stop looking to the government for everything that might be wrong in your life. And you won't look to it to fix your life.

    I look to the government to protect this country, from outside threats. That's something I'm not able to do on my own. But, there's plenty we can do on our own, despite the government's intervention. (perceived and actual intervention)

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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    ^^ THIS ^^^ so many times this!!!

    The government doesn't create jobs, entrepreneurs create jobs. The government can make it easier or harder for them to do so. Also the government can encourage business to cut jobs by raising the cost of the workforce. But at the end of the day, when people just stand around waiting for the government to rain jobs onto them from the sky, that's when things go really wrong.
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    exactly. it's not the government's fault that we believe falsehoods. lol
    second, i don't believe that obama is the right leader to lead this country right now.

    but, that said. he didn't cause this mess. neither did many others.
    it was a cooperative effort between the government and its people.
    and until people stop looking to the government 'for change,' then things will remain the same or get worse.

    whether obama won or not--i still have a lot within my power to control in my own financial and career life.
    I honestly think people forget that this government was meant to be "For the people, by the people." or they have no idea what it means. Now they just let a bunch of out of touch representatives decide on things and then bitch about how horrible the situation is or the government isn't taking care them It comes down to personal responsibility and actually informing yourself on issues and the people that you decide to help put in power.
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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    I honestly think people forget that this government was meant to be "For the people, by the people." or they have no idea what it means. Now they just let a bunch of out of touch representatives decide on things and then bitch about how horrible the situation is or the government isn't taking care them It comes down to personal responsibility and actually informing yourself on issues and the people that you decide to help put in power.
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    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    that shouldn't make you smile, though. because no matter who we voted for here, to a certain degree, we could only believe what we were told. coupled with if someone is a staunch democrat or repub no matter who runs for president, that can also make a difference.

    but, more of what i'm saying is that this administration can make things worse, but it's not the government's fault, end of story, that the country is in the financial shape it's in. there are other mitigating factors.

    the government doesn't 'create' jobs. yes, they can tax employers highly, and make it harder for those employers to hire people. but, there are other mitigating factors.

    many companies were doing poorly before obama took office. and thus, laying off lots of their workforce. who's fault was that?
    i blame greed, outsourcing, and a skewed business model that many corporations now follow. (stockholders first, top management second, customers third, and employees last)

    to me, the problems in our economy have more to do with a fundamental shift in values and principles. (and work ethic) Somewhere along the way, our society made this shift from taking responsbility for our own destinies, and believing that the government somehow controls it.

    that said, the government can cause opposition and struggle, depending on taxation laws, and how it governs. but, to blame the economy on one administration (or 5) and/or believe that one administration can turn this ship around in 4 or 8 years...is rainbows and unicorns.

    This country was built on opposition and struggle. Some of the strongest small businesses were started during down economic turns. So, yes, the government does impact things, but not to the extent the media would have us believe it. This is not a dictatorship.

    So don't gloat should an obama supporter lose his/her job over the next four years. Because that mindset is precisely the problem. We are all in the same side. Different religions, ethnicities, beliefs, etc...but we should all want what is best for each other. This divided way of thinking, is also why we're in this mess.

    That said, I empathize with everything you said.
    You are correct that government doesn't create jobs, but the incredibly high tax rates that they place upon business owners along with all of the stupid/assinine regulations sure does make it hard for them to succeed. And I am aware that Obama came into a mess, he was well aware of it as well when he signed up for the job, but adding to the problems doesn't help things. You are aware that reagan came into just as bad of a mess in his first term and FIXED it aren't you. If he couldn't turn things around why did he promise to? His words were I will cut the deficit in half in my first term, or I will be a one term pres., he added 6 trillion to that deficit with zero net jobs created. He also stated that if his 93 billion dollar "stimulus" package was passed that we would be at 5 percent unemployment right now, we are at close to 15 percent real unemployment, I know they like to skew the numbers and come up with 7.9%, but that doesn't account for all of the people who have ran out of unemployment benefits from being without a job for more than 99 weeks. I suppose he will still be blaming bush after 4 more years. Not trying to be rude to you in anyway Whatevergirl, I just hate seeing people suffer from what the government has laid upon them. And all this talk of outsourcing kills me, if the business owners weren't regulated to death and taxed higher than any other country in the world they wouldn't be forced to move their companies overseas to make a profit. And for what it is worth, that is the reason people start businesses is to make a profit, and the jobs they create are their jobs, not the people who they hire, but the companies jobs.
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    ^^ THIS ^^^ so many times this!!!

    The government doesn't create jobs, entrepreneurs create jobs. The government can make it easier or harder for them to do so. Also the government can encourage business to cut jobs by raising the cost of the workforce. But at the end of the day, when people just stand around waiting for the government to rain jobs onto them from the sky, that's when things go really wrong.
    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    exactly. it's not the government's fault that we believe falsehoods. lol
    second, i don't believe that obama is the right leader to lead this country right now.

    but, that said. he didn't cause this mess. neither did many others.
    it was a cooperative effort between the government and its people.
    and until people stop looking to the government 'for change,' then things will remain the same or get worse.

    whether obama won or not--i still have a lot within my power to control in my own financial and career life.
    Originally Posted by whatevergirl View Post
    Furthermore...look at history. Martin Luther King...that man faced TONS of opposition. But, he succeeded!

    Gandhi succeeded.

    These people faced immense obstacles, both personally and by their governments.

    So, losing a job might mean it's time to reinvent one's self. Might mean it's time to do something you never thought possible.
    I lost my job last year, rebounded, but took a pay cut. I don't blame the government for this.

    All I'm suggesting is, stop looking to the government for everything that might be wrong in your life. And you won't look to it to fix your life.

    I look to the government to protect this country, from outside threats. That's something I'm not able to do on my own. But, there's plenty we can do on our own, despite the government's intervention. (perceived and actual intervention)
    I in no way implied that I think the government should rain jobs down on people, and I know government doesn't create jobs, Obama doesn't seem to understand this as his fix for this mess in his words is to hire more teachers and firemen and policemen. I just think the government should get the hell out of the way with all of their regulations and high taxes to blow on those who are too sorry to work.I have a great job myself, and have worked all of my life without depending on anyone. I just see alot of people struggling to find work because in my area their are building after building sitting empty from businesses going under and it sucks.
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    Originally Posted by EB68 View Post
    I in no way implied that I think the government should rain jobs down on people, and I know government doesn't create jobs, Obama doesn't seem to understand this as his fix for this mess in his words is to hire more teachers and firemen and policemen. I just think the government should get the hell out of the way with all of their regulations and high taxes to blow on those who are too sorry to work.I have a great job myself, and have worked all of my life without depending on anyone. I just see alot of people struggling to find work because in my area their are building after building sitting empty from businesses going under and it sucks.
    i agree w/that.
    also, the pollution regulations that we have here, china for example does not have. thus much cheaper goods made there. thus, walmart is the number one retailer of china imports.

    so you are not speaking greek to us. we agree.

    i don't fully agree with you about outsourcing. heaven forbid a CEO making a few million, takes a pay cut or changes his bonus structure, to warrant keeping more jobs here. yes, the government plays a big role, but so does corporate greed. greed is a harder problem to solve, though.

    but how a CEO could layoff say 100+ people, and not take a paycut, and yet, his stocks go up? that is not the government, that is greed. and that happens all the time.

    the corporate world could take a few lessons from warren buffet.

    edit to add >> i don't begrudge anyone their earned due. If you work hard, and you earn being a millionaire, great. but if your company is struggling ...for whatever the reasons...from a humanitarian standpoint...think of every way you can keep your staff working, even if that means the CEO and the rest of top mgmt, takes a huge paycut to do it. Until you get back on your feet. I worked for a company a few years back whereby the CEO didn't receive a salary for one year, to keep employees. That showed incredibly humility in a time where people were truly worried if they were going to be jobless or not. (in the $40 to 60k salary brackets)

    Not only will you keep your employees, but the productivity of those who viewed that CEO as going above and beyond, soared.

    Win win for everyone.

    I'm being simplistic, and I understand that outsourcing isn't as cut and dry as this. But, it's not as cut and dry as you say, either. Somewhere in the middle, perhaps.
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    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    It's called three things depending on where you're from; Jerusalem cricket, child of the earth and potato bug. Creepy things that make a horrible noise if you mess with it, kind of like a scream.
    That is fuked up.

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    Gandhi succeeded.

    These people faced immense obstacles, both personally and by their governments.

    So, losing a job might mean it's time to reinvent one's self. Might mean it's time to do something you never thought possible.
    I lost my job last year, rebounded, but took a pay cut. I don't blame the government for this.

    All I'm suggesting is, stop looking to the government for everything that might be wrong in your life. And you won't look to it to fix your life.

    I look to the government to protect this country, from outside threats. That's something I'm not able to do on my own. But, there's plenty we can do on our own, despite the government's intervention. (perceived and actual intervention)
    Reps upon reps upon reps for you.

    Times infinity.
    Originally Posted by Echo814 View Post
    I honestly think people forget that this government was meant to be "For the people, by the people." or they have no idea what it means. Now they just let a bunch of out of touch representatives decide on things and then bitch about how horrible the situation is or the government isn't taking care them It comes down to personal responsibility and actually informing yourself on issues and the people that you decide to help put in power.
    Personal responsibility.

    What a novel idea.


    I think many, not all but many, people are in the positions they are in because they bought houses they couldn't afford, cars they couldn't afford, took trips they couldn't afford, lived WELL beyond their means. No, that doesn't have a whole lot to do with businesses going under and job cuts but I definitely think the financial situation in the US would be a lot different if more people realized they are not rock stars and cannot live as one.

    Along with that, people need to lose the "it's all the government's fault!!' attitude. Yes, the government is responsible for a lot of shiit but YOU choose whether to sit and wallow and nut up and move on.
    DAYUM!!!

    "Be stronger than your vagina"

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