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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    You can hunt deer and moose and whatever else with a bow and arrow.

    Why the **** does anyone need an AR-15?

    Semi-automatic or not, it is completely unnescasary.
    Why not?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    No one has still answered my original question.

    Why does any citizen need an AR-15?
    Because they are fun to shoot. Because ammo is fairly cheap compared to most of your "typical" hunting rifles. Because they are Tacticool. Because if you ask to ask, you will never understand.
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    Just because you have to reload after every trigger pull doesn't justify it in my opinion.

    Why is it necessary?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    You can hunt deer and moose and whatever else with a bow and arrow.

    Why the **** does anyone need an AR-15?

    Semi-automatic or not, it is completely unnescasary.
    Lol'd, I've only hunter deer (went hunting for moose but never saw anything) but I can assure you hunting with a gun is much easier than with a bow. And you don't hunt with an AR-15. Why are you only talking about that calibre anyways??


    ^What I hunted deer with, my Remington 760 pump action 30-06 (on top)
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    Originally Posted by OBrien33 View Post
    Was semi automatic but believe he had a beta-c mag. Basically a double drum mag holding 100 rounds.
    Semi-automatic is not an assault rifle. Having a large mag is normal for target practice.
      
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    Originally Posted by Brinksta1991 View Post
    Constitution. Wether or not I agree with it doesn't matter. But I doubt our founding fathers knew there would be weapons like these.
    We should be allowed to have what the government has. That was built into the constitution so that we would be able to
    Protect ourselves from our own government if it needed to be over thrown.
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    Originally Posted by Hellow533 View Post
    Yes, I'd rather defend myself with my fists against guns!
    I'd rather defend myself with my fists against people using fists.

    See where this is going? You are replying to my post about a circular argument with a comment leading to a circular argument.
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    Here we go again
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    In case the British decide to invade and take back the US.

    Oh and the second amendment - "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    It is sort of like a right to defend against government. People can still legally organize a militia should they choose. Would they go up against the armies of America? No it would be a slaughter. But you get the picture.
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    Originally Posted by jackjonez View Post
    I know some Americans think the founding fathers would have wanted them to have bad ass weapons. But reality is, times have changed, and the need to arm every citizen is a thing of the past.
    I agree 100%.

    AR-15s weren't what they had in mind.

    Originally Posted by Tubbith View Post
    Because they are fun to shoot. Because ammo is fairly cheap compared to most of your "typical" hunting rifles. Because they are Tacticool. Because if you ask to ask, you will never understand.
    Ridiculous, stupid logic
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    You can hunt deer and moose and whatever else with a bow and arrow.

    Why the **** does anyone need an AR-15?

    Semi-automatic or not, it is completely unnescasary.
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    Originally Posted by Tubbith View Post
    Because they are fun to shoot. Because ammo is fairly cheap compared to most of your "typical" hunting rifles. Because they are Tacticool. Because if you ask to ask, you will never understand.
    This, the cheapest I can buy rounds (in store) for my 30-06 comes at over a dollar each... ($1.06 a round)
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post

    Ridiculous, stupid logic
    From the guy who has not made one logical argument in this thread? Lol OP is a *******.
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    Originally Posted by OBrien33 View Post
    We should be allowed to have what the government has. That was built into the constitution so that we would be able to
    Protect ourselves from our own government if it needed to be over thrown.
    Are you seriously worried about that happening?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    I agree 100%.

    AR-15s weren't what they had in mind.



    Ridiculous, stupid logic
    ???

    So, because lambos are overthetop as far as cars -- we shouldn't allow them.

    Also, any sports car for that matter.

    Car accidents are a major reason for death in America so I don't consider the two completely outlandish in comparison.

    One for transportation -- the other for hunting/protection is your primary concern of difference.

    You can get to the mall in a GEO rio just as well as a spyder.
      
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    Originally Posted by Tubbith View Post
    From the guy who has not made one logical argument in this thread? Lol OP is a *******.
    What is your need to own an AR-15 assault rifle?
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    Originally Posted by tk217 View Post
    Semi-automatic is not an assault rifle. Having a large mag is normal for target practice.
    I understand this, please refer to my other posts ITT.
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    What is your need to own an AR-15 assault rifle?
    Even if there isn't a need --- why can't someone who likes to own these own one?

    Plenty of "home" chemicals used for cleaning make meth -- does that mean you should be licensed to own ammonia?
      
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    Originally Posted by tk217 View Post
    ???

    So, because lambos are overthetop as far as cars -- we shouldn't allow them.

    Also, any sports car for that matter.

    Car accidents are a major reason for death in America so I don't consider the two completely outlandish in comparison.

    One for transportation -- the other for hunting/protection is your primary concern of difference.

    You can get to the mall in a GEO rio just as well as a spyder.
    You don't need an AR-15 for protection or hunting, there are smaller calibre and less deadly weapons that do just as well.
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    Are you seriously worried about that happening?
    lol bro its what our country was founded on. A bunch of farmers who fought off an entire country.
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    I'd rather defend myself with my fists against people using fists.

    See where this is going? You are replying to my post about a circular argument with a comment leading to a circular argument.
    I must agree with the fact there are far too many threads and posts just like these, and making a law against guns isn't going to stop people from getting them. They are breaking the law with the guns, breaking the law to get them isn't going to mean jack sh*t to them. It might be harder to get one, but if they want one it's not going to be all too hard.
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    Even if there isn't a need --- why can't someone who likes to own these own one?
    Because it serves no purpose?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    What is your need to own an AR-15 assault rifle?
    I personally enjoy building them and spending hours at the range blasting holes in paper targets with it. AKA for fun. Guns are a hobby of mine and AR's are fairly easy and cheap to built. Also, because I can.

    Now, I want you to give me a logical argument as to why I shouldn't be able to own one. And it better not be some I'm afraid of guns type of sh*t. I want logic if you are capable of it. I srs don't think you are when it comes to this topic.
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    What is your need to own an AR-15 assault rifle?
    Can you even read what we said?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    You don't need an AR-15 for protection or hunting, there are smaller calibre and less deadly weapons that do just as well.
    And you don't need a spyder to get to the mall.
      
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    Originally Posted by BDub85 View Post
    lol bro its what our country was founded on. A bunch of farmers who fought off an entire country.
    So what?

    Times have changed have they not? Is there any real threat of that happening?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    Because it serves no purpose?
    So, effectively we shouldn't allow anyone to drive a spyder or a hummer or a f450 because "you don't need it"

    We should also stop people from making jewelery or "high fashion" because "you don't need it."
      
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    You don't need an AR-15 for protection or hunting, there are smaller calibre and less deadly weapons that do just as well.
    Another facepalm, you want a larger caliber than AR-15, they are a short range low power calibre compared to other hunting rifles.
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    Originally Posted by Tubbith View Post
    I personally enjoy building them and spending hours at the range blasting holes in paper targets with it. AKA for fun. Guns are a hobby of mine and AR's are fairly easy and cheap to built. Also, because I can.

    Now, I want you to give me a logical argument as to why I shouldn't be able to own one. And it better not be some I'm afraid of guns type of sh*t. I want logic if you are capable of it. I srs don't think you are when it comes to this topic.
    OK, so use one at the range then. I don't have a problem with that. Why do you need one in your home? What's wrong with a handgun or a rifle?
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    Originally Posted by thatguyinthegym View Post
    protection or hunting, less deadly weapons
    does not compute.... Why would I protect myself with a less deadly weapon? I want something that will end the threat to my life as quickly as possible.

    Why would I want a less deadly weapon for hunting? I want the animal to die as quickly as possible so it does not suffer unnecessarily.
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