intermittent fasting

[trapsbro]

has anyone done it? how were your strength levels? i kinda want to do it, i want to get back down to 175-180 and than do a slow bulk from there , i need some opinions

[iLiftAllNatty]

It's been working for me. I do eat at a caloric deficit, but my lifts have gone up since I started.

I definitely need more sleep though and that may be unrelated.

[arian11]

has anyone done it? how were your strength levels? i kinda want to do it, i want to get back down to 175-180 and than do a slow bulk from there , i need some opinions

Lol what? You are 16 years old, 6' and 225 lbs. Fasting shouldn't be in your vocabulary.

[trapsbro]

It's been working for me. I do eat at a caloric deficit, but my lifts have gone up since I started.

I definitely need more sleep though and that may be unrelated.

can you help me out? say i wake up at 9am how long do i have to wait for my 1st meal? and after that how long should i wait for my next one?

[trapsbro]

Lol what? You are 16 years old, 6' and 225 lbs. Fasting shouldn't be in your vocabulary.

well , with the kinda results people have had with it, it's tempting

[iLiftAllNatty]

can you help me out? say i wake up at 9am how long do i have to wait for my 1st meal? and after that how long should i wait for my next one?

You don't have to wait. You just have to fast 16 hours and eat 8. Some people take BCAAs as a pre-workout and workout fasted. I just eat some nuts and drink some milk, and that pre-workout meal starts my 8 hour "feasting" period. I do this after work so I normally just eat dinner after I workout and go to sleep. I also drink coffee in the morning but from what I can tell it hasn't effected the diet because it's pretty low (below 100) on calories.

[trapsbro]

You don't have to wait. You just have to fast 16 hours and eat 8. Some people take BCAAs as a pre-workout and workout fasted. I just eat some nuts and drink some milk, and that pre-workout meal starts my 8 hour "feasting" period. I do this after work so I normally just eat dinner after I workout and go to sleep. I also drink coffee in the morning but from what I can tell it hasn't effected the diet because it's pretty low (below 100) on calories.

thanks

[Jason2459]

Cutting...bulking...what is this doing in here.

Also, I agree win arian. Unless you are trying to make a weight class you have no reason to be doing this.

[thom2355]

has anyone done it? how were your strength levels? i kinda want to do it, i want to get back down to 175-180 and than do a slow bulk from there , i need some opinions

I am not going to say that IF isn't a good idea, but I have heard some counters to it that suggest the fasting period is too long. Only way to find out is to try it yourself.

[trapsbro]

Cutting...bulking...what is this doing in here.

Also, I agree win arian. Unless you are trying to make a weight class you have no reason to be doing this.

i want to reach a good body weight to lift ratio

[shavethefuzz]

i want to reach a good body weight to lift ratio

Why not get stronger?

[Jason2459]

i want to reach a good body weight to lift ratio

That will come through just getting stronger and eating sensible meals.

You're in the wrong section for your goals.

[trapsbro]

That will come through just getting stronger and eating sensible meals.

You're in the wrong section for your goals.

but im still getting the same amount of calories, it's just differently structured

[Torrtrefireto]

Lol what? You are 16 years old, 6' and 225 lbs. Fasting shouldn't be in your vocabulary.

Plenty of people have gained weight through IF. Its just a way to feel less ****ty all day

[Jason2459]

Sounds a lot like Carb Back Loading and part of it. Except possibly not fasting as long in CBL.

[thom2355]

Sounds a lot like Carb Back Loading and part of it. Except possibly not fasting as long in CBL.

Not as technical and a longer fast. Kiefer's big disagreement on IF is basically over a couple of hours during the fasting period.

[Jason2459]

Either way I hope the OP decides on a better goal.

[trapsbro]

i think maybe that u guys are right and not do it and just stick with what im doing now and when i get a good strength base i should reconsider it

[koyongi]

16 year old boys should be eating.

The end.

[BigHugeLawls]

Op,

The reason I see for those in this forum suggesting to toss this idea is because This approach takes away your body's focus from strength gains and allocates it towards weight management.

Take it from guys on this forum. You will have plenty of years to practice and master weight control later down the road. The gains you could make right now however, through focus on weight progression on the big five (squat, dead lift, bench, row, and military press) and eating like a horse, you will become as big and strong as a horse.

If strength is the goal, these guys know what they are talking about. Later down the road, maybe after a bit of college or after high school, you might get some useful info from the pansies at the nutrition forum. By then, I'm sure you'd know enough to scoff at half the things they bring up for debate.

Cheers

[trapsbro]

Op,

The reason I see for those in this forum suggesting to toss this idea is because This approach takes away your body's focus from strength gains and allocates it towards weight management.

Take it from guys on this forum. You will have plenty of years to practice and master weight control later down the road. The gains you could make right now however, through focus on weight progression on the big five (squat, dead lift, bench, row, and military press) and eating like a horse, you will become as big and strong as a horse.

If strength is the goal, these guys know what they are talking about. Later down the road, maybe after a bit of college or after high school, you might get some useful info from the pansies at the nutrition forum. By then, I'm sure you'd know enough to scoff at half the things they bring up for debate.

Cheers

you're right

[MakeABanana]

Lol what? You are 16 years old, 6' and 225 lbs. Fasting shouldn't be in your vocabulary.

Unless he's a Muslim.

[ThrowLiftSleep]

Why not get stronger?

This this this this this this this. Listen to the man, OP.

[arian11]

Plenty of people have gained weight through IF. Its just a way to feel less ****ty all day

Except usually someone who is skinny uses the excuse that their metabolism is "fast" as the reason why they can't gain weight. Really it is because they don't eat enough. So why would you compound that by starving yourself for 75% of a day and trying to be on a caloric surplus for the other 25%?

[KOArtist]

16 year old boys should be eating.

The end.

This

[Torrtrefireto]

Except usually someone who is skinny uses the excuse that their metabolism is "fast" as the reason why they can't gain weight. Really it is because they don't eat enough. So why would you compound that by starving yourself for 75% of a day and trying to be on a caloric surplus for the other 25%?

Its not just about fasting nerdboy, its about feeling good, and some people are more comfortable eating a higher portion of th


nah, **** it, no use trying to actually talk to you Arian

[5_02ls1]

16 year old boys should be eating.

The end.

this lol

but ill answer anyway im a fan of if,works well for me.ive never been a big breakfast eater anyway...i eat my last meal around 745ish pm and dont eat again till noon the next day..diet works great ive used it high calorie and low calorie works well either way...

[Jason2459]

this lol

but ill answer anyway im a fan of if,works well for me.ive never been a big breakfast eater anyway...i eat my last meal around 745ish pm and dont eat again till noon the next day..diet works great ive used it high calorie and low calorie works well either way...

And what time do you train?

[Jason2459]

Not as technical and a longer fast. Kiefer's big disagreement on IF is basically over a couple of hours during the fasting period.

Sounding more and more like a halfassed version of CBL with a longer period of starvation...

[thom2355]

Sounding more and more like a halfassed version of CBL with a longer period of starvation...

Kiefer has a three part (soon to be four) article on IF and its ups and downs. There are benefits to fasting, especially if trying to recomp/stay at the top end of a weight class without too much cutting/general health....but initially I missed the whole 16 thing....eat kid, eat!