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    Can you gain muscle without gaining weight?

    Instead of the standard bulking and cutting can you just keep the same weight and still build muscle. I know when bulking you build muscle and gain fat and when cutting you lose fat but don't build muscle. My question is - what if you do neither?
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    then u most likely spin your wheels and end up nowhere. If you are scared to gain fat, just go for a 100 - 300 cal surplus.
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    Originally Posted by doyoueveneat View Post
    then u most likely spin your wheels and end up nowhere. If you are scared to gain fat, just go for a 100 - 300 cal surplus.
    it's not for me, I was just curious because there was a user on a different thread that said he never bulked and he looked ****ing huge.
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    Originally Posted by zakc View Post
    Instead of the standard bulking and cutting can you just keep the same weight and still build muscle. I know when bulking you build muscle and gain fat and when cutting you lose fat but don't build muscle. My question is - what if you do neither?
    Muscle is weight...
    "Can you gain muscle without gaining weight" It don't make sense
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    Originally Posted by zakc View Post
    it's not for me, I was just curious because there was a user on a different thread that said he never bulked and he looked ****ing huge.
    - he prob did bulk without noticing
    - maybe on steroids
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    take your pic.
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    in theory i guess you can because you lose the same amount of fat and build the same amount of muscle instead, so they replace each other and stay same weight, while losing bf.. in practice, it does not work that way hehe
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    Originally Posted by Mobster1995 View Post
    Muscle is weight...
    "Can you gain muscle without gaining weight" It don't make sense
    Sorry I should have said without bulking.
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    that other member probably just slowly gained his mass never had a fattening phase. if you take it slow you can put on lean size but it takes like 5 days to get a pound of fat and almost a month to get a pound of lean muscle. (on average) i never just bulk and let my self get fat. i eat a ton but i also work out a ton.
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    Originally Posted by shreddomorph View Post
    that other member probably just slowly gained his mass never had a fattening phase. if you take it slow you can put on lean size but it takes like 5 days to get a pound of fat and almost a month to get a pound of lean muscle. (on average) i never just bulk and let my self get fat. i eat a ton but i also work out a ton.
    You don't make sense either.
    Bulking doesn't let your self get "FAT" only if you let ur self gain more than 1lb a week and don't do anything about it
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    Originally Posted by Mobster1995 View Post
    You don't make sense either.
    Bulking doesn't let your self get "FAT" only if you let ur self gain more than 1lb a week and don't do anything about it
    when you start your acc on this site it talks about body fat and says how long it takes to form fat and lean muscle and lean muscle is a bit more than a week and more like 3... and i consider a lot of stuff fat that other people dont consider fat. just part of being a really lean person. ide rather weigh less than be a fat **** any day.
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    Or he recomp'd....
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    Originally Posted by shreddomorph View Post
    when you start your acc on this site it talks about body fat and says how long it takes to form fat and lean muscle and lean muscle is a bit more than a week and more like 3... and i consider a lot of stuff fat that other people dont consider fat. just part of being a really lean person. ide rather weigh less than be a fat **** any day.
    Weird cause guess what, I gained 1 lb in 2 weeks and funny enough my bf percent still remains the same. Care to tell me more?
    I obviously make sure I wont get higher than 10% body fat that I can't see my abs any more.
    See when I bulk I make sure I do it correctly not like what some people do (dat dere dirty bulk)
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    Originally Posted by Mobster1995 View Post
    Weird cause guess what, I gained 1 lb in 2 weeks and funny enough my bf percent still remains the same. Care to tell me more?
    I obviously make sure I wont get higher than 10% body fat that I can't see my abs any more.
    See when I bulk I make sure I do it correctly not like what some people do (dat dere dirty bulk)
    it was a mixture of muscle, water weight, fat etc. you cant count your bf% to the decimal.
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    Originally Posted by zakc View Post
    it's not for me, I was just curious because there was a user on a different thread that said he never bulked and he looked ****ing huge.
    Doesn't mean he didn't gain weight? Or do you mean still gain size without having to bulk, just standard lifting?
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    You can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time,but its pretty slow and the progress would be beyond terrible if you're not on drugs or a completely beginner. However you can gain a few pounds of muscle and lose the same amount of fat. You will,technically, gain muscle without gaining weight.
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    Originally Posted by Corky124 View Post
    Doesn't mean he didn't gain weight? Or do you mean still gain size without having to bulk, just standard lifting?
    Sorry about the confusing wording. I should have said can you gain muscle without bulking, eating at maintenance.
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    1. Newb gains
    2. Recomp (too hard)

    Might as well bulk and cut. You'd have to have a really revised meal plan. Just bulk/cut
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    Originally Posted by Mobster1995 View Post
    Weird cause guess what, I gained 1 lb in 2 weeks and funny enough my bf percent still remains the same. Care to tell me more?
    I obviously make sure I wont get higher than 10% body fat that I can't see my abs any more.
    See when I bulk I make sure I do it correctly not like what some people do (dat dere dirty bulk)
    yea easy to gain more than 1lb onto nothing yea u have abs congrats but no chest? yea i could gain 5 pounds a day if i had ur chest brah. and yea im going off what the ****ing website says i don't care if you are more knowledgeable than bb.com...
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    without gaining weight or fat?

    either way, it's possible (former would require losing fat and gaining muscle which is possible)

    i've done it, but it's slow as fuark compared to bulking and cutting so what's the point
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    Is bulking really a must?

    I have been training for 7 years now. When I first started out I 0tried several time to bulk but never succeeded... But that's probably why I'm an ectomorph. So after a year or so without gaining weight or even gaining much muscle I decided to just follow my program and add an extra meal everyday. And it actually worked for me. So I kept training like 5 days a week from monday to friday.. And I ate approx. 3600 calories a day... That's about 200 calories surplus that was recomended for my height and weight. I have a lean body with a bf% around 12. So but ofcourse when you are a hardgainer/ectomorph it is really hard to gain weight. But just try to eat around your recomended amount of calory intake everyday and keep training hard.. And you will eventually reach your goal
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    Originally Posted by Jericoe View Post
    it was a mixture of muscle, water weight, fat etc. you cant count your bf% to the decimal.
    This lmao.
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    dude? ARE ****ING MENTALLY RETARDED MY Friend?? DID YOUR MOM BREAST FEED YOU THROUGH A ****ING GARDEN HOSE YOU DUMB ****.
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