Customer at internet cafe shoots two robbers! (video)

[leukoplakia]

saving innocent lives how?

by escalating the situation into a gunfight instead of a robery and putting them in even more danger?

brb let's turn this robbery into a gunfight just because i'm badassssssss

this is where you liberals are wrong. you assume that the armed men were there only to rob and not harm anyone. when in a similar situation, always assume the worst because that's what the perps are capable of. they may not kill you but are you willing to bet your life on it?

[suave2000]

this is where you liberals are wrong. you assume that the armed men were there only to rob and not harm anyone. when in a similar situation, always assume the worst because that's what the perps are capable of. they may not kill you but are you willing to bet your life on it?

i'm not a liberal, and okay let's always assume the worst

in worst case scenario one those perps rob everyone and later execute all the hostages

in worst case scenario two the grandpa starts a gunfight and everyone is killed in the process

because we should always assume the worst case scenarios right? In this case the grandpa did good and nobody got hurt but while doing so he put everyone's lives on the line, wich was to my appreciation unnecessary.

[suave2000]

Respect to gramps.

I'm amazed that some are criticizing him and suggesting he should have left his life and the lives of others up to the whim of people with bad intentions and guns.

because EVERY SINGLE "bad guy" is out to kill you and rape your corpse right? so let's escalate every situation to it's extreme just because if you don't you're a pussy. I live ina third world country, i've been exposed to violence, guns and "bad people" and guess what if i had escalated every stressful situation where guns where involved i would have been dead by now.

[leukoplakia]

i'm not a liberal, and okay let's always assume the worst

in worst case scenario one those perps rob everyone and later execute all the hostages

in worst case scenario two the grandpa starts a gunfight and everyone is killed in the process

because we should always assume the worst case scenarios right? In this case the grandpa did good and nobody got hurt but while doing so he put everyone's lives on the line, wich was to my appreciation unnecessary.

so you would rather he do nothing and just pray that the robbers not harm anyone? i guess they've displayed enough good character so far in committing an armed robbery that one would trust these two with their lives, right?

[suave2000]

so you would rather he do nothing and just pray that the robbers not harm anyone? i guess they've displayed enough good character so far in committing an armed robbery that one would trust these two with their lives, right?

so should i just pray and put my life in the hands of an old man who decided to stir chit up? he seems brave enough so i should just trust my life in his aim.

but yeah those are "bad guys" and they want to kill you and take everything you love from you so let's shoot them up!

[Sandman33]

saving innocent lives how?

by escalating the situation into a gunfight instead of a robery and putting them in even more danger?

brb let's turn this robbery into a gunfight just because i'm badassssssss

You're a fukking ******* dude.

[bellis01]

Bit stupid shooting with that other guy close to the robber tbh

[PowerLevel9001]

so should i just pray and put my life in the hands of an old man who decided to stir chit up? he seems brave enough so i should just trust my life in his aim.

but yeah those are "bad guys" and they want to kill you and take everything you love from you so let's shoot them up!

I'd put my life in the hands of the old dude over the two armed criminals you llama loving homosex.

There have been like 3 stories posted TODAY about urban youth just killing people for no reason. Some of you people act like you're oblivious to the fact that some people like to kill for fun, or to make a point.

[Sandman33]

so should i just pray and put my life in the hands of an old man who decided to stir chit up? he seems brave enough so i should just trust my life in his aim.

but yeah those are "bad guys" and they want to kill you and take everything you love from you so let's shoot them up!

You walk into a building pointing a gun at people you deserve to get shot right in the fukking head. End of story. Thank you grandpa for having the balls this generation lacks.

[PositronLaser]

because EVERY SINGLE "bad guy" is out to kill you and rape your corpse right? so let's escalate every situation to it's extreme just because if you don't you're a pussy. I live ina third world country, i've been exposed to violence, guns and "bad people" and guess what if i had escalated every stressful situation where guns where involved i would have been dead by now.

This is not about being tough or being a pussy. This is about leaving your life in the hands of a scumbag with a gun and how he is feeling today.

You seem disturbingly comfortable with that dice roll. I am more comfortable with the grampa's dice roll, because unlike you, he wasn't OK with the best possible outcome that the rapist might at least use lube.

[2k10SS]

libs gonna lib

[thgonace]

Sounds somewhat ok from my stand point, the old man may have recklessly endangered the lives of the other patrons.
He did stop once the armed robbers had fled the building and didn't end up killing anyone.
something about the robbery seems off though,like something out of a movie ... why does the other guy have a bat.
This could have gone very differently if the other guy had a gun.
Basically I think its ok because of how it turned out, it could have gone differently therefore i do not think the old mans actions were heroic or even wise.

[PositronLaser]

Also, I consider myself relatively lib.

[kyokushin1]

i would have done the same thing, props to the grandad.

[suave2000]

You're a fukking ******* dude.

I'd put my life in the hands of the old dude over the two armed criminals you llama loving homosex.

There have been like 3 stories posted TODAY about urban youth just killing people for no reason. Some of you people act like you're oblivious to the fact that some people like to kill for fun, or to make a point.

You walk into a building pointing a gun at people you deserve to get shot right in the fukking head. End of story. Thank you grandpa for having the balls this generation lacks.

This is not about being tough or being a pussy. This is about leaving your life in the hands of a scumbag with a gun and how he is feeling today.

You seem disturbingly comfortable with that dice roll. I am more comfortable with the grampa's dice roll, because unlike you, he wasn't OK with the best possible outcome that the rapist might at least use lube.

jimmies = rustled

you're all so unaware

[patzyy]

in cali both parties would be arrested

[PowerLevel9001]

jimmies = rustled

you're all so unaware

good rebuttal, champ

and LOL @ the negs, seems like it is you who is Rustled

[suave2000]

good rebuttal, champ

and lol @ the negs, seems like it is you who is rustled

u mad?

[trankwil]

If they would have died he'd probably be charged for shooting as they retreated. And for those saying he shouldn't have shot, there was another story in the news/misc today about some kid that robbed a guy for $20 and shot him. You can't wait to see if these are nice robbers or murderous robbers.
Also how about that dumbass that runs up behind the old guy while he is shooting.

[thorherc67]

so should i just pray and put my life in the hands of an old man who decided to stir chit up? he seems brave enough so i should just trust my life in his aim.

but yeah those are "bad guys" and they want to kill you and take everything you love from you so let's shoot them up!

you seem like the perfect person to rob.. just sayin, i work hard for what is mine and i am not going to give it to some punk ass that decides he has more right to what is mine than i do. I carry and if i am in a situation that i can stop with taking out the threat i will. I am not going to sit around waiting to see if these douche bags have had a bad day or on drugs and want to kill or do other things to innocent people or myself.

[FU3L]

lol...who robs an internet cafe?

[Hola Bola]

i'm not a liberal, and okay let's always assume the worst

in worst case scenario one those perps rob everyone and later execute all the hostages

in worst case scenario two the grandpa starts a gunfight and everyone is killed in the process

because we should always assume the worst case scenarios right? In this case the grandpa did good and nobody got hurt but while doing so he put everyone's lives on the line, wich was to my appreciation unnecessary.

because EVERY SINGLE "bad guy" is out to kill you and rape your corpse right? so let's escalate every situation to it's extreme just because if you don't you're a pussy. I live ina third world country, i've been exposed to violence, guns and "bad people" and guess what if i had escalated every stressful situation where guns where involved i would have been dead by now.

so should i just pray and put my life in the hands of an old man who decided to stir chit up? he seems brave enough so i should just trust my life in his aim.

but yeah those are "bad guys" and they want to kill you and take everything you love from you so let's shoot them up!

[DatPass]

You're a fukking ******* dude.

No, he's intelligent. The shooting stance etc of that old guy clearly showed that he has NO IDEA how to shoot correctly, he went from a modern stance to some weird teacup **** to a 1960's movie stance to pushing at them like he was a gangsta.... the man might as well have had his eyes closed and sprayed a machine gun at them. At one stage there he was in a modern stance but with only one hand on the gun... WHAT THE ****?

The fact that nobody was killed was sheer luck rather than any skill on behalf of the shooter, he was up against a shotgun and a pistol at close range and if either one of those guys was remotely competent he'd be dead and it might have turned into a siege.

I'm all for gun rights and concealed carry but shooters need to be ****ing trained and they need to be taught when it's appropriate to shoot. It's dramatically safer to just hand over the money in the register and let the insurance cover it (that's why you insure yourself) than it is to engage in a gunfight in a room full of people like that, the old guy was just pumping out rounds towards a plate glass window... you need to think "where are my rounds going?".

[Sandman33]

No, he's intelligent. The shooting stance etc of that old guy clearly showed that he has NO IDEA how to shoot correctly, he went from a modern stance to some weird teacup **** to a 1960's movie stance to pushing at them like he was a gangsta.... the man might as well have had his eyes closed and sprayed a machine gun at them. At one stage there he was in a modern stance but with only one hand on the gun... WHAT THE ****?

The fact that nobody was killed was sheer luck rather than any skill on behalf of the shooter, he was up against a shotgun and a pistol at close range and if either one of those guys was remotely competent he'd be dead and it might have turned into a siege.

I'm all for gun rights and concealed carry but shooters need to be ****ing trained and they need to be taught when it's appropriate to shoot. It's dramatically safer to just hand over the money in the register and let the insurance cover it (that's why you insure yourself) than it is to engage in a gunfight in a room full of people like that, the old guy was just pumping out rounds towards a plate glass window... you need to think "where are my rounds going?".

I don't give a shyt about his stance, he hit both perps twice and defused the situation. If I was there I would thank him.

[ScOpEy]

No, he's intelligent. The shooting stance etc of that old guy clearly showed that he has NO IDEA how to shoot correctly, he went from a modern stance to some weird teacup **** to a 1960's movie stance to pushing at them like he was a gangsta.... the man might as well have had his eyes closed and sprayed a machine gun at them. At one stage there he was in a modern stance but with only one hand on the gun... WHAT THE ****?

The fact that nobody was killed was sheer luck rather than any skill on behalf of the shooter, he was up against a shotgun and a pistol at close range and if either one of those guys was remotely competent he'd be dead and it might have turned into a siege.

I'm all for gun rights and concealed carry but shooters need to be ****ing trained and they need to be taught when it's appropriate to shoot. It's dramatically safer to just hand over the money in the register and let the insurance cover it (that's why you insure yourself) than it is to engage in a gunfight in a room full of people like that, the old guy was just pumping out rounds towards a plate glass window... you need to think "where are my rounds going?".

I live in reality. In the heat of the moment, not everyone is trained well enough to have their stance and aim down to a 2nd nature skill, reality doesn't happen textbook style.

[TranKy]

I am liberal and very anti-gun. But this is a clear positive example for the pro-gun camp , have to admit that.

[Dissen]

Decent black people got to be so fuking sick of the endless amounts of videos of black people being violent. Everyone has instant access to video. It's endless!

[DatPass]

I live in reality. In the heat of the moment, not everyone is trained well enough to have their stance and aim down to a 2nd nature skill, reality doesn't happen textbook style.

Here's the thing you don't seem to understand though: In a gunfight you get no second chances, "the heat of the moment" doesn't help when 6 of those 10 rounds you just fired went through that window and into a family eating lunch across the street. That guy didn't just have a slightly shaky stance, he looked like he'd learned to shoot from 80's movies starring Tom Selleck.

This is exactly the reason why so many other nations think gun control in the US is nuts... if you can't maintain a tiny bit of composure and aim your fire then you don't have the faculties to judge when it's appropriate to use a firearm, SHOOTERS NEED TO BE TRAINED.

Reality doesn't happen textbook style bu you know what does? ACCIDENTAL GUN FATALITIES. What that old guy did is pretty much a textbook example of how NOT to handle a robbery situation, it's pure luck that nobody was killed, I'd rather not gamble the life of my family on luck and shooting skills some old fool learned from watching Magnum P.I.

Decent black people got to be so fuking sick of the endless amounts of videos of black people being violent. Everyone has instant access to video. It's endless!

Why do you assume they're blacks? All I can see is guys with black gloves on and their faces obscured.







Also the guy who posted a Jeff Cooper picture earlier dramatically misunderstands Cooper... he was 100% about TRAINING and an untrained idiot with a gun is a danger to himself and others. The only thing worse than a wolf is a sheep with a gun.

[miscormisk]

im supprised he dodnt shoot innocents with that lol, how can u fire that many bullets and not kill the person u are shooting at.

[DatPass]

im supprised he dodnt shoot innocents with that lol, how can u fire that many bullets and not kill the person u are shooting at.

It's not really an issue of caliber or weapon (inb4 1911****s), very little dictates effective stopping power other than shot placement , with the way he reacted and his ****arded shooting stance he's lucky he hit them at all. When he was jabbing with the gun and shooting i was thinking "if this was a movie then any second now the slide would lock back and he'd throw the gun at them ROFL".




Oh and fyi "hola bola", negging me with "no" as your rebuttal for a post just makes you a *******, you're probably the kind of huuur duuur ****wit who shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm let alone carry one. Sure that's probably a little harsh but you've hardly shown reason in this thread, shooting people up is rarely the best solution.



The fact of the matter is that shooting those 2 *******s was justified, if he had known even remotely what he was doing. Someone with that little idea how to use a firearm probably has even less of an idea how to maintain one.

Nobody in this thread has mentioned what would have happened if gramps had suffered a stoppage or the robbers had been even remotely competent, I'll lay it out for you: 1 armed novice shooter against a shotgun and another pistol at close quarters, majority of the time that means gramps is dead and god only knows what the hell happens then... either they run, they just start blasting or it ends up as a siege, either way innocent people are dead for the sake of pride and the $40 in that register.

That's not sane.