the truth about natty lifting...

[HerculesBro]

didnt read the whole thread, but from what i saw, it seemed like everyone saying "youd be surprised at where hard work can take you" or "with enough dedication, blah, blah, blah) were all under 200lbs



which made me giggle
theres no shame in being natty or unnatty, but there are definitely limits on the natty side, and it seems to be in the realm of 180-190 on stage

[Braveheart91]

You can get pretty swole as a natty brah. I'm 221lb bulked right now 6"2 14% bodyfat, will cut down to 200-205 and i'll look ****ing beast. I looked awesome at 190 so 200-205 is going to be pretty epic. I've got pretty awesome genetics. huge calves, naturally big pecs, shoulders, lower back is solid. Just gotta work on my upper back+arms are lacking, 16.2". Wheels are my strongest part. haven't been to the gym in a few months though and I look pretty fuarking good still, feelsgoodman. no diet either.

[Skilllzzz]

I guess it depends what your definition of big is. I consider myself decent size and shredded. You just can't expect to get huuuuugeee bb'er size and be shredded. That's all up to genetics, certain guys can get pretty big/thick and shredded, but the majority have a hard time being really thick and shredded (natty). Just train hard and eat well and be dedicated and be happy with ur size brah. If u ain't happy then ride a bike (later in leaf)

[TheXanderXone]

I think someone asked about this guy earlier. Jeff Willet. He claim(ed) natty at 5'7", 198 competition weight. He's obviously full of sh*t.

[zmcdole]

I think someone asked about this guy earlier. Jeff Willet. He claim(ed) natty at 5'7", 198 competition weight. He's obviously full of sh*t.

HE HAS ADMITTED TO USING PROHORMONES. No matter what Willet claims HE IS NOT DRUG FREE.

[NF0913]

Because someones weight dictates whether they are natty.


Do you think they come in over the limit so it would be obvious for a contest or off-season?

you're right, weight doesn't dictate whether someone is natty or not. but bf%, weight, and time spent training as well as their current physique should all be considered. sardinia is at a naturally attainable bf% for his weight, and has been training for over 7 years i believe. unless he literally just hopped on the juice, i think it would be much more obvious that he was running something.

I think someone asked about this guy earlier. Jeff Willet. He claim(ed) natty at 5'7", 198 competition weight. He's obviously full of sh*t.

natty.

[TheXanderXone]

HE HAS ADMITTED TO USING PROHORMONES. No matter what Willet claims HE IS NOT DRUG FREE.

Was not aware of that.

[zmcdole]

you're right, weight doesn't dictate whether someone is natty or not. but bf%, weight, and time spent training as well as their current physique should all be considered. sardinia is at a naturally attainable bf% for his weight, and has been training for over 7 years i believe. unless he literally just hopped on the juice, i think it would be much more obvious that he was running something.



natty.

No.

http://jeffwillet.blogspot.com/2009/...ne-debate.html

[zmcdole]

how is 6'2 under 180 lbs in contest condition not possibly natty....

moneyshot is jelly that he's juiced to the gills and Robbie still has a better physique.

[NF0913]

No.

http://jeffwillet.blogspot.com/2009/...ne-debate.html

he is natty. he just said that stuff to stir up debate on the misc.

moneyshot is jelly that he's juiced to the gills and Robbie still has a better physique.

depends on how you define better physique... sardinia probably has better proportions and 'flow' from a professional bodybuilder's perspective, but i personally like money shot's physique better as i'm a big fan of tons of mass (no homo)

[AlphaBaller]

You can get pretty swole as a natty brah. I'm 221lb bulked right now 6"2 14% bodyfat, will cut down to 200-205 and i'll look ****ing beast. I looked awesome at 190 so 200-205 is going to be pretty epic. I've got pretty awesome genetics. huge calves, naturally big pecs, shoulders, lower back is solid. Just gotta work on my upper back+arms are lacking, 16.2". Wheels are my strongest part. haven't been to the gym in a few months though and I look pretty fuarking good still, feelsgoodman. no diet either.

true, You can get pretty swole as a natty brah. I'm 221lb bulked right now 6"2 14% bodyfat, will cut down to 200-205 and i'll look ****ing beast. I looked awesome at 190 so 200-205 is going to be pretty epic. I've got pretty awesome genetics. huge calves, naturally big pecs, shoulders, lower back is solid. Just gotta work on my upper back+arms are lacking, 16.2". Wheels are my strongest part. haven't been to the gym in a few months though and I look pretty fuarking good still, feelsgoodman. no diet either.

[zmcdole]

he is natty. he just said that stuff to stir up debate on the misc.

not sure if srs, prohormones = not natty

[NF0913]

not sure if srs, prohormones = not natty

i was jk haha he is obviously not natty, there is no debate after looking at the pics...

[mmaoz]

if he admitted to pro hormones i guarantee he's trying to 'hide' the real use to get people off his back. like when arnold claimed he only used celltech to maintain muscle going into a contest

[GalvanizedPail]

bobby sardines and plyoanthlete and jtsnyder are my natty heroes. das my goal someday braw.

watchin str8flexed do sheiko got me pumped up too be his lifts are within the realm of possibility for naturalness

You look pretty big in your picture.

[MrPayday]

When it comes down to it, there's a lot of BBers that have attained incredible things natty, they are few but it's been done. Incredible things does not mean mass monster, but they have attained very nice physiques realistically at a great bodyfat (I'm speaking of physiques like Rsardinia). Does this mean everyone can achieve that? No, because it's way harder and takes a whole lot of time and patience. Hopping on a cycle will take you to the next level, but if you are dedicated to being natty, don't let numbers demotivate you, because I guarantee that anyone who has achieved an ideal physique while remaining natty didn't give "natty limits" a second thought. Anyone that does has already lost. There are limits, but you must act as if there are none, such is life in general. If you hop on the cycle though, you will achieve whatever your natty goal was a lot easier and will be able to go beyond that.

Personally, I think it would be great to see where my body could go if I hopped on a bike, but I'll never do that. Looking forward to slowly progressing naturally and hopefully one day being worthy of being accused of roid use (probably will take another 3-5 years or more).

[HarjMode]

First of all i want to say that I respect anyone that admits to riding bikes.

Second of all, many of the people who are riding a bike don't openly admit it because many of the unawares believe that once you ride the bike all your effort and dedication is left behind. They believe that bikes are a short cut and means that the user put zero to no effort for the physique he has attained.

Lots of unawares especially in the misc that have no idea how celltech works. They just bash on the ones that admit it because they believe its 'cheating'. which in a way it is, but by no means does it mean that you have to put in less effort. In fact, you actually have to put in twice as much effort.

Just my $.02

[XClassic10]

natty bodybuilders unite ITT?

[frgz88]

you can only choose two : BIG / SHREDDED / NATTY


feelsbadman.jpg

in my case I can only choose one: natty

feelsbad

[jcant]

if he admitted to pro hormones i guarantee he's trying to 'hide' the real use to get people off his back. like when arnold claimed he only used celltech to maintain muscle going into a contest

Maybe, but pro hormones are a lot more powerful than people think considering the ones out today aren't even pro hormones but in fact designer steroids. Superdrol will give you more gains in 4 weeks than any other steroid.

[samsuperjew]

I was devastated when I learned this guy wasn't natty

one day

[CrownMe]

ITT some miscers don't have what it take to put in the work natty so they claim everyone is on tech. IMO Rsardinia is natty. I personally think it is a goal that somebody who has the heart and dedication can achieve.....................soon lol. But seriously some of you guys are just fuarking depressing.

[ptotheb]

PBateman2 aka Manu is my natty inspiration.

op you forgot something that is very important for nattys.....WORK ETHIC. If you're not adding weight to the bar, increasing reps, breaking PR's and leaving everything in the gym you're doing it wrong.

[Ghosting]

but bf%, weight

True, I should have specified BF% was a factor to me too.

[Dasser]

I'm natty, never used any supplement either and I used to be pretty big. I'm a non lifting ******* now though.

[Alphagenesis808]

The day I stop being natty is the day I no longer gain any solid gains by meeting my macros and lifting intensely

[GhostRider111]

I see.

[gkicksass]

Maybe, but pro hormones are a lot more powerful than people think considering the ones out today aren't even pro hormones but in fact designer steroids. Superdrol will give you more gains in 4 weeks than any other steroid.

not true. superdrol is in fact a steroid. it undergoes no metabolic changes to be activated. structurally its just masteron with a methyl group on C-17. it is one of the most powerful oral steroids but not the most powerful(either in terms of androgenicity or anabolic properties).

superdrol is really cool in that it completely overloads your muscle with glycogen. that coupled with it binding affinity for the androgen receptor means that it will give you massive strength gains. it will keep you lean and dry because of its lack of conversion to estrogen however once you go off you will lose much of glycogen in the muscle and you will shrink.

[Hamzzza]

how far i've come natty http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post920032093 lulz

[B-Neva]

ITT people are ignorant

brb someone looks good, they are using