You know what I hate...

[dbcb314]

People who squat down to benches and think they hit parallel. I wish there patella tendons would snap

ya'rly

[solidwon]

I find that practice really odd myself, it just seems counterproductive.

[SteveCNY]

Well they could be doing box squats, which is a form of power-squatting. i dont see anything wrong with it if they incorporate it into a full ROM workout with full squats and such. but if they are doing it solely for the leg workout, then yea, i hope their achilles tendon would rip

[JoeRockhead]

From an Article by Mike Boyle:

" I love when someone tells me they squat to “parallel” and then I get to go to the gym and watch. I think, “My God, who taught your geometry class?” Parallel to what? I start to ask myself if there’s a line on the wall going downhill at a 45 degree angle. Are they parallel to that? "

Squat depth clarified:
http://www.usapowerlifting.com/newsl...ce/novice.html

[papi93]

What about the guys who bench to 90 degrees when they have perfectly healthy shoulders? These guys usually don't squat at all.

[Lencho]

Originally Posted by dbcb314

People who squat down to benches and think they hit parallel. I wish there patella tendons would snap

ya'rly

Yeah, me too.

[raysmith]

I sometimes bench squat.

[Mark1T]

Makes my blood boil, too, db. Anyone that doesn't go really parallel or lower, probably has a hankering for a meat whistle

[de_barathrum]

Originally Posted by dbcb314

everything
ya'rly

fixed

[papi93]

Originally Posted by raysmith

I sometimes bench squat.

You weigh 450lbs?!

[rockhuddy]

Originally Posted by dbcb314

People who squat down to benches and think they hit parallel. I wish there patella tendons would snap

ya'rly

What if their spines broke instead? Would that be ok?

[STDsInUrHardDrive]

Actually, squatting down to a bench isn't going parrallel, but that doesn't mean it isn't effective. While it might not be AS effective, hitting the bench allows you to keep your back straighter, going back a bit more due to knowing you have that safety there. Also, if you stay on the bench for a second, you'll find it's MUCH harder to lift off of it, recruiting your hamstrings and glutes and even abdominals noticeably. I don't practice it, but I don't shun it either. I just don't know if it can be compared to ATG squats.

[JUSA]

Originally Posted by rockhuddy

What if their spines broke instead? Would that be ok?

Only if immediately after their heads exploded, like that guy from the movie "Scanners".

[STDsInUrHardDrive]

Originally Posted by Johnny USA

Only if immediately after their heads exploded, like that guy from the movie "Scanners".

Naw.
I was thinking their balls could both explode, letting them roll around in pain while I drill proper squatting technique and form to them, making them listen due to a slight hope they'll survive, then promptly letting their heads explode so than can go give Satan their hard-won lessons on how to squat.

[dbcb314]

Originally Posted by xxoddxx

Actually, squatting down to a bench isn't going parrallel, but that doesn't mean it isn't effective. While it might not be AS effective, hitting the bench allows you to keep your back straighter, going back a bit more due to knowing you have that safety there. Also, if you stay on the bench for a second, you'll find it's MUCH harder to lift off of it, recruiting your hamstrings and glutes and even abdominals noticeably. I don't practice it, but I don't shun it either. I just don't know if it can be compared to ATG squats.

no

[STDsInUrHardDrive]

Originally Posted by dbcb314

no

Wow, a one worded argument. Willing to back it up or even be more specific about what that meant?

[rockhuddy]

Originally Posted by xxoddxx

Wow, a one worded argument. Willing to back it up or even be more specific about what that meant?

You're confusing bench squats (ghey) with box squats (good). The former is done by incompetent, ignorant retards. The latter is done by people who know what they're doing.

[dbcb314]

no one should be box squatting of any kind about parallel unless...


- they are strong (500+ squat)
- they do strongman

[STDsInUrHardDrive]

Originally Posted by rockhuddy

You're confusing bench squats (ghey) with box squats (good). The former is done by incompetent, ignorant retards. The latter is done by people who know what they're doing.

Um, please explain the difference in a box squat and a bench squat other than the object used, and then get to explaining how one form of exercise turns the lifter into an incompetent and ignorant retard and the other proves superior weight lifting knowledge. This doesn't mean I'm challenging your post, just that I'm exceedingly wary of it.

[rockhuddy]

Originally Posted by xxoddxx

Um, please explain the difference in a box squat and a bench squat other than the object used, and then get to explaining how one form of exercise turns the lifter into an incompetent and ignorant retard and the other proves superior weight lifting knowledge. This doesn't mean I'm challenging your post, just that I'm exceedingly wary of it.

It's not necessarily the implement used, but the manner in which the exercise is performed. People that squat to a bench almost without fail use an awkward bar placement, go up on their toes, have wobbly knees, and think they're going to parallel on the bench when they're not. Those that box squat understand why they're doing it. They stay on their heels, push their knees out, use good form, and understand what depth they're going to.

It's possible that you might find the first type of lifter using a box or the second type of lifter using a bench, but it's not likely.

[dbcb314]

[HawkLifter55]

Agree, in my gym, this is like what EVERYONE does. ANd when i do A2G squats, they all look at me like I am an idiot.

[Mark1T]

Originally Posted by dbcb314

Yep, this boy's a meat whistler.

[aqua-beowulf]

Spytech does box squats to a bench... nuff said

[jked4life]

Originally Posted by aqua-beowulf

Spytech does box squats to a bench... nuff said

When you are 6'2, squatting to a bench is paralell.


Ya Rly.

[STDsInUrHardDrive]

Originally Posted by rockhuddy

It's not necessarily the implement used, but the manner in which the exercise is performed. People that squat to a bench almost without fail use an awkward bar placement, go up on their toes, have wobbly knees, and think they're going to parallel on the bench when they're not. Those that box squat understand why they're doing it. They stay on their heels, push their knees out, use good form, and understand what depth they're going to.

It's possible that you might find the first type of lifter using a box or the second type of lifter using a bench, but it's not likely.

So in other words, you're just saying that people who bench squat tend to do it shi*ty and people who box squat know what they're doing, and other than that you don't have any support such as different muscle recruitments or anything logical at all except a little bit of what you've seen in your part of the world. Yeah, I totally buy that. Kind of like saying, "if you drive a motorcycle you're a heroin shooting psycho with no respect for speed law." If only such fallacies had any relation to reality at all.

[rockhuddy]

Originally Posted by aqua-beowulf

Spytech does box squats to a bench... nuff said

But he does box squats to a bench. He doesn't just willy-nilly decide to do squats to a bench because it seems like a good idea or because he thinks it's cool.

Originally Posted by xxoddxx

So in other words, you're just saying that people who bench squat tend to do it shi*ty and people who box squat know what they're doing, and other than that you don't have any support such as different muscle recruitments or anything logical at all except a little bit of what you've seen in your part of the world. Yeah, I totally buy that. Kind of like saying, "if you drive a motorcycle you're a heroin shooting psycho with no respect for speed law." If only such fallacies had any relation to reality at all.

[G_Train]

Originally Posted by dbcb314

People who squat down to benches and think they hit parallel. I wish there patella tendons would snap

ya'rly

wow strong rant;;



but i know what you mean.

[Agent-X]

Originally Posted by xxoddxx

Wow, a one worded argument. Willing to back it up or even be more specific about what that meant?

No: One worded conclusion; it's not an argument until it has a premise/reason for the conclusion.

[STDsInUrHardDrive]

Originally Posted by Agent-X

No: One worded conclusion; it's not an argument until it has a premise/reason for the conclusion.

Then people need to STFU when denying someone's post until they're ready to back it up. People debate on here to LEARN, not to get get told they're wrong without knowing how they're wrong, or to just go around saying, "I disagree with you but I won't tell you why."