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Originally Posted by Opeth09
I see. Hate to say it man, but a break may be in order. Taking a week or two off from legs isn't going to harm your physique. But if you end up hurting yourself and can't lift for months and months, that will. Something to think about
I 2nd this. Listen to your body, man. Remember, this is a marathon. Sometimes it is 2 steps forward, 1 step back ... repeat.
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I see. Hate to say it man, but a break may be in order. Taking a week or two off from legs isn't going to harm your physique. But if you end up hurting yourself and can't lift for months and months, that will. Something to think about
Originally Posted by Ccm644
Man,that sucks, i hope you get better soon.
Tbh listening to your body is a good idea its a **** thought that your body is saying no and you have been killing your workouts for ages maybe let it recover a little as the last thing you would want is it to keep coming back because it has not fully healed/recovered
Its easy for me to write and people to give opinions but your going to do what you want
Keep safe
Originally Posted by wrkoutfrq
i had this same problem when i first started Oly lifting, and it still bothers me from time to time to this day... it's similar to any strain, it just takes time to heal. i know thats not what you want to hear (OBVIOUSLY i don't listen lol) but just be careful not to push it too far. hope it gets to feeling better soon man
Originally Posted by Rypt1
I 2nd this. Listen to your body, man. Remember, this is a marathon. Sometimes it is 2 steps forward, 1 step back ... repeat.
Thanks a lot for all the responds guys! MUCH appreciated!
UPDATE
Well, I saw the doctor and he basically said my hamstrings and glutes are weaker than my quads and I most likely 'over' exerted them in an effort to keep up with my quad progression. The goal from here is to take 1 week off of lower body training while still training upper body. Then after that week is up, I will add in a lower body day 1x per week, followed up the next week with 2x per week. The problem area is really not that bad but I need to be over cautious, let them heal, and in a week, my legs will be BETTER than ever! My lower body has never recovered as fast as my upper body does so I plan on learning from this and moving on to BIGGER and BETTER things!
In other news, with working 40+ hours per week while going to school, family members being in and out of the hospital, obligations, and TONS of other things that I would rather not discuss, I am extremely sorry to say that I will not be logging quite as frequently as I have been. I plan to try and post as many workouts on my website (www.natural-pursuit.com) as possible and get them in this log as well. My videos will continue to be posted up in my youtube channel as I can get those out faster than writing down all of my things and posting them in multiple locations (I will probably be getting up 3+ videos per week.)
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Seriously though - maybe back off a bit. Go back to PHAT and just hit legs twice a week and leave Smolov for when you are healed. I opted to do Sheiko, which has me bench 3xweek knowing my pec strain wasn't 100% and now it's more sore than when I started. Probably not a smart move on my part, but I listen to my body and if it hurts alot, I stop, pack up my ****, and go home. Live to fight another day.
Like another guy said, a little time off won't kill you, but an injury would be detrimental to both your mental and physical progress.
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Thanks a lot for all the responds guys! MUCH appreciated!
UPDATE
Well, I saw the doctor and he basically said my hamstrings and glutes are weaker than my quads and I most likely 'over' exerted them in an effort to keep up with my quad progression. The goal from here is to take 1 week off of lower body training while still training upper body. Then after that week is up, I will add in a lower body day 1x per week, followed up the next week with 2x per week. The problem area is really not that bad but I need to be over cautious, let them heal, and in a week, my legs will be BETTER than ever! My lower body has never recovered as fast as my upper body does so I plan on learning from this and moving on to BIGGER and BETTER things!
Glad to see you went to the doc and got it figured out.
I have the opposite strong hammies weak quads.
I've dumped a weeks worth of WOs at a time in my log from time to time...just a thought.
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Overpowering quads are a lot more common then most people think. When you think about how many quad dominant exercises we do vs hamstring dominant you can definitely see there's an imbalance. I make a point to use AT LEAST a 1:1 ratio for every quad exercise and ideally for hamstring then that.
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In all honesty mate if your injury was that bad, don't kid yourself. Your body needs more than just a week off if something is up. Take it from someone your same age who used to train with the same intensity and mindset... then lost 220lbs off his deadlift as a result of pushing through and 'grinding out' a VERY SIMILAR injury... it's not worth it, and I guarantee it will set you back. Be smart about this, there's plenty of time to grow and you don't want to spend the next 20 months building your lifts back up to half of what they used to be.
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Sounds like a good plan! Hopefully the rest does you well
Totally understand your other news. Keep safe and train hard, hope your family are ok
Hear from you soon
Thanks man! Things with the family have been very difficult and just finding enough time to take care of everyone ON TOP of everything else is pretty difficult
Originally Posted by demonwareltd
Too much volume maybe?
Seriously though - maybe back off a bit. Go back to PHAT and just hit legs twice a week and leave Smolov for when you are healed. I opted to do Sheiko, which has me bench 3xweek knowing my pec strain wasn't 100% and now it's more sore than when I started. Probably not a smart move on my part, but I listen to my body and if it hurts alot, I stop, pack up my ****, and go home. Live to fight another day.
Like another guy said, a little time off won't kill you, but an injury would be detrimental to both your mental and physical progress.
Keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by deltpecx
Glad to see you went to the doc and got it figured out.
I have the opposite strong hammies weak quads.
I've dumped a weeks worth of WOs at a time in my log from time to time...just a thought.
I wish you the best...
GREAT idea! Will see how things progress
Originally Posted by bigryan03
Overpowering quads are a lot more common then most people think. When you think about how many quad dominant exercises we do vs hamstring dominant you can definitely see there's an imbalance. I make a point to use AT LEAST a 1:1 ratio for every quad exercise and ideally for hamstring then that.
thissss....plus for me, I feel squats mostly in my quads and also feel it is a more natural movement for my body than deadlifts
Originally Posted by Webber91
In all honesty mate if your injury was that bad, don't kid yourself. Your body needs more than just a week off if something is up. Take it from someone your same age who used to train with the same intensity and mindset... then lost 220lbs off his deadlift as a result of pushing through and 'grinding out' a VERY SIMILAR injury... it's not worth it, and I guarantee it will set you back. Be smart about this, there's plenty of time to grow and you don't want to spend the next 20 months building your lifts back up to half of what they used to be.
tbh it is barely an injury...more of a nagging pain that, although I can work through, feel like its time to let it heal completely. No worries bro! I plan on taking lower body off until it heals. Will do this in weekly increments, assess, and then once better ease back into lower body work! Thanks for stoppin in!
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Good job getting to the doctor bro. Play this one safe. I used to pull hamstrings playing sports all the time because my quads over powered the hamstrings. Be safe OP
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If you are hamstring dominant, back off the hamstring work and when we get you back to working legs we will mostly focus on quads only with minor hamstring accessory movememnts. Ill modify your split we wont hit Smolov for at least a month..
Lets try to utilize some accessory work to build up your quads.
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If you are hamstring dominant, back off the hamstring work and when we get you back to working legs we will mostly focus on quads only with minor hamstring accessory movememnts. Ill modify your split we wont hit Smolov for at least a month..
Lets try to utilize some accessory work to build up your quads.
I believe he said its the other way around. Quads are dominant, weak hamstrings.
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Great work Alex. I've just been catching up.
Good to see you on the Smolov --- you made easy work of the 305 x 9 x 4 (and I saw that 335 x 15 as well) I'm so jealous I'd love to get a single rep with 3pps. I'm also amazed at the accessory volume you've been hitting after the smolov sets --- you're benching strength is really improving. You're also showing lots of cuts on the vids and you're definitely recomping at 190
Bad luck about the glute/ham strain --- that's the issue I've been dealing with for the last 12 months --- your doctor sounds like he's smart because most docs just don't pick up that sort of detail --- most bodybuilders squat with a knees forwards movement that works the quads more, but tends to leave the glutes especially underactivated and a bit weakened. looking at your vids I don't always see your knees, but on the 305 set I can see that you do shoot your knees forwards rather than shifting your @ss back. Moving to a more powerlifter stance (squatting back more) will involve the glutes and help to take the strain from the pyriformis. The best thing would be to incorporate more box squatting for a while as well as all the obligatory stretching
Good luck with that --- I know it won't keep you out of action for long
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Nice work after taking the week off and then nailing the 415 for reps (and you're right......there's almost no assistance there)
I like banded squats because I lack speed out of the hole.
Sumo deads looked really good and those are really strong lifts, even with the reverse bands. Deficits looked really good as well. Strong, strong session Alex and great vids!
Man, those were two amazing workouts. The reverse banded work looks interesting, might have to look into it.
Thanks man! REALLY thinking this band work is gunna open up all new kinda gainzz
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Originally Posted by The Solution
Hows the legs feel?
Hey bro! Legs are feeling great! Sore from the workout but glutes and hamstrings feel fresh as ever!
Originally Posted by fittofattofit
KILLED those squats! is right!
Nice work after taking the week off and then nailing the 415 for reps (and you're right......there's almost no assistance there)
I like banded squats because I lack speed out of the hole.
Sumo deads looked really good and those are really strong lifts, even with the reverse bands. Deficits looked really good as well. Strong, strong session Alex and great vids!
Thanks man! Yeah I need to play around with reverse banded squats more but we'll see!
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