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    Need help choosing Protein Supplement

    Hi, I am 26/m with an avg mesomorph physic looking to lose weight and add lean muscle. I am new to supplements and been looking at a lot of expert reviews about protein supplements and brands.
    I would like to know why everybody in this forum is giving MuscleMeds Carnivor a thumbs down. It's hard to get any meat where I live so I figured getting isolated Beef protein over a Whey would be a better choice. But after reading some of the posts I am a little hesitant to go for it now. I'm asking this question again because many people have access to meat shop and can easily get the protein and vitamins out of the meal however, since it's not the same for me will you still suggest that I am better off with Whey? Also, I don't want Creatine mixed in my Protein powder. I don't want to take Creatine as of now as it pumps up the body and I am still in the process of losing body fat.

    In Whey Protein Powder I have read some nice reviews and these are the brands I have come up with, IsoFlex, PROnom, XF UP 2.0, Giant Sports and Dymatize ISO-100.(incl both concentrate and Isolate). If I have to choose in Whey from these regardless of the Price is IsoFlex the best bet out of all these? (I am not lactose intolerant)
    Also, when is it the best time to take protein shake specially if I workout in the evening. And how many grams should I take per kgs/lbs?
    I will appriciated your kind help,
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    You dont need to worry about getting an isolate unless you have lactose intolerance. Concentrate will be just fine...

    If you do want an isolate, I can only personally recommend VPX SRO Graham Cracker.

    The following proteins are really good though. Trutein, XF 2.0 (more of an mrp), Pronom 23, iForce Protean, Combat Powder, Giant Sports. Just find which one fits your macros.

    I cant attest to why people dont like the beef protein though, never tried it. I do believe the bioavailablity is a fair bit lower though.
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    Originally Posted by melaneybh View Post
    You dont need to worry about getting an isolate unless you have lactose intolerance. Concentrate will be just fine...

    If you do want an isolate, I can only personally recommend VPX SRO Graham Cracker.

    The following proteins are really good though. Trutein, XF 2.0 (more of an mrp), Pronom 23, iForce Protean, Combat Powder, Giant Sports. Just find which one fits your macros.

    I cant attest to why people dont like the beef protein though, never tried it. I do believe the bioavailablity is a fair bit lower though.
    Girl knows whats up . Many solid protein choices out there, personally it comes down to price per serving since I just use them to help meet my macros. I usually go with chocolate since they are easiest for me to put down. As of now I would say Dymatize Elite XT Fudge Brownie is best deal for taste.
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    Originally Posted by melaneybh View Post
    You dont need to worry about getting an isolate unless you have lactose intolerance. Concentrate will be just fine...

    If you do want an isolate, I can only personally recommend VPX SRO Graham Cracker.

    The following proteins are really good though. Trutein, XF 2.0 (more of an mrp), Pronom 23, iForce Protean, Combat Powder, Giant Sports. Just find which one fits your macros.

    I cant attest to why people dont like the beef protein though, never tried it. I do believe the bioavailablity is a fair bit lower though.
    This. Dymatize Iso-100 is good as well. Though I would add Axis Labs Clutch to the list as well.

    Beef protein is an incomplete protein as compared to whey, mostly due to poor amino acid content of gelatin.
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    trutein - cinnabun is aweeeesome love that stuff seriously! so good..wanting to try the pronom 23 stuff though to
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    Originally Posted by jubjubrsx View Post
    trutein - cinnabun is aweeeesome love that stuff seriously! so good..wanting to try the pronom 23 stuff though to
    Link to free samples... including pronom 23 chocolate cupcake batter (its a half serving, but it was good enough to get me to buy a container!)

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    Impressive feedback on Trutein. Only reason I left Trutein and Protean out was because the products have been discontinued from BB store.
    I want more grams of protein with ratio to the lest possible grams of saturated fat, sugar and carbs per serving.
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    Originally Posted by Dem0nstar View Post
    Impressive feedback on Trutein. Only reason I left Trutein and Protean out was because the products have been discontinued from BB store.
    I want more grams of protein with ratio to the lest possible grams of saturated fat, sugar and carbs per serving.
    Trutein will be back on bb.com soon. Within a week or two.

    You will probably want to stay away from XF 2.0 then. its great but protein ratio is lower as its more of a mrp.

    The best ratio I have liked was VPX SRO Graham Cracker....

    its here http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vp...-carb-sro.html

    the macros are amazing.


    but Trutein has pretty solid stats as well.
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    Thanks, but low ratings kind of make it weird for me :P IsoFlex has 27g of protein compared to SRO which has 20g. Also doesn't have fat or sugar.
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    I can recommend optimum nutrition gold standard 100% whey... works great and you can find it fairly cheap.. I also think you SHOULD look for product that at least has both isolate and concentrate.. preferably with isolate listed as the first main ingredient.. isolate is listed as the first ingredient with optimum nutrition whey.

    isolate is the purest form of protein and you would get the most out of a protein with isolate in it.

    Check out my website onproteinsupplement.com before you buy.. I'm sure there is something on there you will like and I find the cheapest prices for the products so you don't have to. Hope this helps!


    Originally Posted by Dem0nstar View Post
    Hi, I am 26/m with an avg mesomorph physic looking to lose weight and add lean muscle. I am new to supplements and been looking at a lot of expert reviews about protein supplements and brands.
    I would like to know why everybody in this forum is giving MuscleMeds Carnivor a thumbs down. It's hard to get any meat where I live so I figured getting isolated Beef protein over a Whey would be a better choice. But after reading some of the posts I am a little hesitant to go for it now. I'm asking this question again because many people have access to meat shop and can easily get the protein and vitamins out of the meal however, since it's not the same for me will you still suggest that I am better off with Whey? Also, I don't want Creatine mixed in my Protein powder. I don't want to take Creatine as of now as it pumps up the body and I am still in the process of losing body fat.

    In Whey Protein Powder I have read some nice reviews and these are the brands I have come up with, IsoFlex, PROnom, XF UP 2.0, Giant Sports and Dymatize ISO-100.(incl both concentrate and Isolate). If I have to choose in Whey from these regardless of the Price is IsoFlex the best bet out of all these? (I am not lactose intolerant)
    Also, when is it the best time to take protein shake specially if I workout in the evening. And how many grams should I take per kgs/lbs?
    I will appriciated your kind help,
    Thanks
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    What's wrong with fat and carbs again? You need both, even on a cut.
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    Originally Posted by Dem0nstar View Post
    Thanks, but low ratings kind of make it weird for me :P IsoFlex has 27g of protein compared to SRO which has 20g. Also doesn't have fat or sugar.
    Keep in mind Isoflex serving size is (30g). VPX SRO serving size is (23.5g).

    But ya, go with your gut. I cannot say anything about Isoflex as I havent had it myself, but I have heard alot of people on hear saying they really enjoy it.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    What's wrong with fat and carbs again? You need both, even on a cut.
    And I do overall agree with powercage which is why I tend to stick to blends and my money goes further.
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    Originally Posted by arude123 View Post
    I can recommend optimum nutrition gold standard 100% whey... works great and you can find it fairly cheap.. I also think you SHOULD look for product that at least has both isolate and concentrate.. preferably with isolate listed as the first main ingredient.. isolate is listed as the first ingredient with optimum nutrition whey.

    isolate is the purest form of protein and you would get the most out of a protein with isolate in it.

    Check out my website onproteinsupplement.com before you buy.. I'm sure there is something on there you will like and I find the cheapest prices for the products so you don't have to. Hope this helps!
    I don't want to compromise with the quality because of low pricing. I am looking for a product low in calories, carbs and fat as my goal is weight loss and go for a leaner, shredded and chiseled appearance. :P

    Originally Posted by melaneybh View Post
    Trutein will be back on bb.com soon. Within a week or two.

    You will probably want to stay away from XF 2.0 then. its great but protein ratio is lower as its more of a mrp.

    The best ratio I have liked was VPX SRO Graham Cracker....

    the macros are amazing.

    but Trutein has pretty solid stats as well.
    I love the over all content and 80g cal of SRO Zero Carb. I am giving it a go girl. Thnx Also I would like to know how many grams of powder should I take per/kg of my weight? thnx in adv
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    Originally Posted by Dem0nstar View Post
    Thanks, but low ratings kind of make it weird for me :P IsoFlex has 27g of protein compared to SRO which has 20g. Also doesn't have fat or sugar.
    I wouldn't base product judgement on in store ratings, as ass-backwards as it might sound.
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    Not compromising on quality.. this is some of the best available protein out there. It is my protein of choice and you definitely can't go wrong with it. Just providing an option is all..

    Originally Posted by Dem0nstar View Post
    I don't want to compromise with the quality because of low pricing. I am looking for a product low in calories, carbs and fat as my goal is weight loss and go for a leaner, shredded and chiseled appearance. :P



    I love the over all content and 80g cal of SRO Zero Carb. I am giving it a go girl. Thnx Also I would like to know how many grams of powder should I take per/kg of my weight? thnx in adv
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    I wouldn't base product judgement on in store ratings, as ass-backwards as it might sound.
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    Originally Posted by Dem0nstar View Post
    I don't want to compromise with the quality because of low pricing. I am looking for a product low in calories, carbs and fat as my goal is weight loss and go for a leaner, shredded and chiseled appearance. :P

    I love the over all content and 80g cal of SRO Zero Carb. I am giving it a go girl. Thnx Also I would like to know how many grams of powder should I take per/kg of my weight? thnx in adv
    I think you made the right call. It was people on here that got me onto it. You will get differing opinions usually the opinions range between 1-1.5 grams for every pound you weigh. If your trying to bulk I would recommend 1.5 grams per pound. If you are trying to cut I would say 1 gram per pound. Also noticed that you want to gain muscle and lose weight. It is very hard to do both at the same time. You are going to need to bulk to gain muscle (calorie surplus) and heavy lift... and to lose weight you are going to need to cut (calorie defecit). Most people tend to bulk in the winter when clothes are baggier and then cut to expose there hard earned muscles.
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    Originally Posted by melaneybh View Post
    Trutein will be back on bb.com soon. Within a week or two.

    You will probably want to stay away from XF 2.0 then. its great but protein ratio is lower as its more of a mrp.

    The best ratio I have liked was VPX SRO Graham Cracker....

    its here http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vp...-carb-sro.html

    the macros are amazing.


    but Trutein has pretty solid stats as well.
    just seen the 4.4 lb vpx graham cracker is $65 here at bb.com. Not bad. Its on backorder. wondering how long it takes to get back in stock.
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    just seen the 4.4 lb vpx graham cracker is $65 here at bb.com. Not bad. Its on backorder. wondering how long it takes to get back in stock.
    I placed an order while it was on backorder, shipped out not even a full week later. This was like 2 weeks ago.
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    might have to order. My thing is i drink 1 in the morning and 1 before workout. Its getting expensive. I found a 7.5lb of isopure for $80 plus shipping. That turns out to be only like $12 a lb. For isolate thats cheeeap. Except they only sell cookies and cream, strawberry , and another ice cream type flavor. Im looking for a fruit flavor. Any ideas?
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    Originally Posted by Gbinkster View Post
    might have to order. My thing is i drink 1 in the morning and 1 before workout. Its getting expensive. I found a 7.5lb of isopure for $80 plus shipping. That turns out to be only like $12 a lb. For isolate thats cheeeap. Except they only sell cookies and cream, strawberry , and another ice cream type flavor. Im looking for a fruit flavor. Any ideas?
    That price is good for isolate for sure. Cant really speak to the taste though. I never shop at stores like GNC or Vitamin Shoppe and such. But it might be worthwhile for you to check one out, and see if they will give you a sample (here in canada we have a supplement store thats $$$ but offers samples, I go in just to try the flavours of what they have, mind you there selection is limited)...

    I know of a couple people who didnt mind iso sensations 93, but I havent tried them yet.

    Then there is 4Ever Fit Fruit Blast - The Isolate, has some unique fruity flavours, but the ratings dont look exceptional and again never tried them myself.
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