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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Here's your answer and read the fawking post...........

    “The 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Bill
    How many times are you going to pretend that was the only new spending bill signed by Obama? You're a blind partisan shill, highlighted every time you use this deception.

    If you can't deal with the fact that a black liberal president ...
    Someday, pathetic people like you who need to define others by their skin color will be a thing of the past. Until then, take your false claims of racism and shove them up your ass. I've never made a single racist comment, but that's the best you can come up with every time your lies are revealed? I'm not wasting any more time with you.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    If you can't deal with the fact that a black liberal president is doing a better job than a white southern cracker than that's your problem bish.
    Lol, what a worthless tard.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    I am not good at teh maths.
    You've already made ur point bro but thx for reminding us.
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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    Quoting someone that is avoiding the facts.


    Obama has outspent Bush by the barrel loads, yet thinking a rate decrease is the same as spending less.
    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Please list the spending that is truly Obama's here and the amount or leave and never come back.
    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    )'m only gonna ask one more time retard.............list the actual programs initiated by Obama and their cost.


    Here I'll show how.

    Bush pushed PharmaCare through congress with no way to pay for it...................................hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Bush gave rich tax cuts with no way to pay for it................................................ ................hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Bush gave the rich another tax break............................................. ...................................hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Bush ignored warnings that 9/11 was coming resulting in war in Afghanistan.........................hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Bush claimed there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq-WRONG................................ hundreds of billions of dollars.


    Total cost the day Obama took office..................-$1.300,000,000,000 deficit and another $8,000,000,000,000 over the next ten years.

    These numbers verified by 140 Republican Congressmen and Senators!

    Now leafs43 where are your numbers to backup your claim??????
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    I don't know how that contributes to this thread but OK?!?!?



    Can any of you conservatards please list the spending by Obama that led to the deficit.


    If not than fawkoff............stop posting in this thread.I have posted actual spending by Bush and the Republicans but non of you have posted spending by Obama.

    Just rhetoric and hyperbole.Just shiite from Limbaugh's and Levine's shows!!!!!!!!!

    Stop posting here until you have real facts you freaking trolls.


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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    I don't know
    Obviously
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    Some more food for thought.

    This post has the actual numbers!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/Newspending072511


    Highlights............


    Based on the figures from the chart, Bush spent $5.07 trillion on new expenditures from fiscal years 2002-2009. Obama will have spent only $1.44 trillion through 2017, including saving $126 billion through spending cuts.




























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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Obama will have spent only $1.44 trillion through 2017, including saving $126 billion through spending cuts.

    ^^^^^ Holy fuking ****, people believe this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Where is Saloman in all this? Buddy, a big man is a man who can admit when they're wrong. Yes, even on the internet. As awful and stupid as EctoCanuck is, at least he's here demonstrating he has a sub-marginal IQ and the maturity of a child... which on some levels is better than just vanishing.
    I'm not wrong. I stop in and shake my head every now and then at the dumb in this thread. There is a reason Paul Ryan was afraid 2009 would be the benchmark and it is because that is how presidential spending is always measured (by the increase term over term). What the GOP wants to do here is break tradition to make Obama look excessive by crediting him with all spending, including Bush's. Frankly they desperately need to do this because they have spent his entire term demonizing the guy for spending (while ignoring Bush when he did it). Beyond that obvious point there isn't much to be said. Oh, and I'm tired of being negged (I received 5 negs from the usual GOP shills). I wanted to have conversation and instead got a neg train.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Some more food for thought.

    This post has the actual numbers!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/Newspending072511


    Highlights............


    Based on the figures from the chart, Bush spent $5.07 trillion on new expenditures from fiscal years 2002-2009. Obama will have spent only $1.44 trillion through 2017, including saving $126 billion through spending cuts.
    This is going to make for interesting presidential debates.
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    growth, GROWTH of the federal govt.

    can't you ****ers read?

    of course when the govt is already this inflated there is little left to increase: education? check. air travel? check. food safety? check. social security? check...etc etc

    seriously, what is else there left to create besides the ministry of truth?
    Check your privilege, phaggot!
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    EctoCanuck I think you need to post more pictures in order to sway more opinion in this thread...
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    Originally Posted by op135 View Post
    growth, GROWTH of the federal govt.

    can't you ****ers read?

    of course when the govt is already this inflated there is little left to increase: education? check. air travel? check. food safety? check. social security? check...etc etc

    seriously, what is else there left to create besides the ministry of truth?
    You did forget health care and the IRS, I think that covers it though.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Some more food for thought.

    This post has the actual numbers!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/Newspending072511

    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    ^^^^^ Holy fuking ****, people believe this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Some people (liberals) will believe anything as long as you use facts/logic/and reason.Some people (conservatives/christians) will only believe what they want to believe.



    Originally Posted by saloman View Post
    What the GOP wants to do here is break tradition to make Obama look excessive by crediting him with all spending, including Bush's. Frankly they desperately need to do this because they have spent his entire term demonizing the guy for spending (while ignoring Bush when he did it).
    That's been the point of my participation in this thread.People want to blame Obama for the national debt while ignoring the fact that he inherited a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit his first year in office with another 8 trillion over the next 10 years.


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    EctoCanuck I think you need to post more pictures in order to sway more opinion in this thread...

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    ^^^^^ Holy fuking ****, people believe this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Well, in his defense, he is canadian. They understand that we've always been at war with east asia over there.
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    Sure, he is the smallest government spender since Eisenhower, for contemporary presidents. All these presidents have been controlled by Israeli lobbyists.

    Your sensationalist Pro-Obama writing forgot to mention his ObamaCare (a joke and supporting the Corrupt Medical Industry ) and plus his unconstitutional act of war on Libya to support the Israeli's in setting up a central bank.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Some people (liberals) will believe anything as long as you use facts/logic/and reason.Some people (conservatives/christians) will only believe what they want to believe.
    So you're a conservative/christian?? Because you are gullible as fuk.
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    Originally Posted by r0gue6 View Post
    Here's the best part...let's say Obama cut tons of budget and closed the deficit cause we all know the right wingers care so much about the deficit.

    That would obviously cause massive layoffs, causing unemployment to go up.

    So then, in their infinite wisdom, the right wingers would attack him on unemployment numbers.

    Dumb fuks gonna dumb fuk.
    I'm still waiting for you to post something intelligent at least once in your life.

    You don't have a crystal ball, so you don't know what would happen to the overall unemployment rates.
    You speak as if you think your speculations are facts.
    Racism is completely irrational.

    Raising taxes never created a single job.
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    leftards can lie and spin.. but it isn't working anymore. Americans blame OBAMA for the economy now. LOL
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    Since Obamacare is supposed to cost 2.6 trillion, I dont see how he will have added less than 1.4 trillion to the deficit by 2017. I'm sure I'll get massively negged for pointing it out, but those projections are false.
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    Originally Posted by Protege385 View Post
    Since Obamacare is supposed to cost 2.6 trillion, I dont see how he will have added less than 1.4 trillion to the deficit by 2017. I'm sure I'll get massively negged for pointing it out, but those projections are false.
    lol the 'projected cost' was doubled within 24 hours of when it was presented. Nothing ever costs anywhere near government estimates, and that is using official numbers. Since there's no way to actually audit the government its impossible to say what the actual cost is.

    But when uncle sam bends you over, you don't complain. Not if you know what's good for you.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    You're wasting your time.I have asked conservatives on this board to list the actual spending by Obama after he took office to explain the deficit and they can't!!!!!!
    It's rather bizarre that someone needs to "prove" easily researched facts. Every spending bill enacted after Jan 2009 was signed into law by Barack Obama.

    Feb 17, 2009: $787 Billion stimulus bill (partial spending in FY09)
    Mar 11, 2009: $410 Billion omnibus spending bill (all spent during FY09)
    Apr 21, 2009: $5.7 Billion Americorps spending bill
    Jun 24, 2009: $106 Billion Supplemental Appropriations Act http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr2346/text (To fund the continued Iraq War and expanded Afghanistan War, and a few unrelated things - supposedly the last "Supplemental" for War spending - yet another promise that he later broke).

    George Bush 2009 budget proposal: $3,107 Billion
    Barack Obama's actual 2009 spending: $3,518 Billion

    I don't give a fiddlers fawk about '09 or '08 or '07 etc when Bush's ass sat in the White House!!!I want them to list the actual spending(not bi-partisan spending like the stimulus for the fawking luv of what ever God you pray to) that was initiated by Obama himself.So retards like nutsy54 understand what I mean list programs or laws signed by Obama in no way connected to Bush or the Republicans.Can I make this anymore simple?
    You seem very tense. You're also desperately trying to divert attention from the actual problem, since Barack Obama signed massive new spending bills in 2009 - so I have no idea why you're trying to conveniently exclude those facts.

    Here...........I'll do it anyways.
    Obama wins election.
    Obama sits in oval office for the first time.
    Obama says "here's how I want to spend money".

    Now list this money and the exact amount for each law he signed or shut the fawk up!!!!!!!!
    Wow, really tense this morning. "How Obama wants to spend money" was clearly detailed in his first budget proposal - which requested $3,591 Billion for 2010: To include a $1,258 Billion deficit, and was $600 Billion more than Federal spending the year before he took office (a 20% increase).

    And I mean post the freaking programs or policies and there cost or don't ever post in one of my threads again!!!!
    Look it up your own damn self, White House budget proposals are freely available: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Overview/
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    ^^ the bill wasnt 787 billion in spending...your first point is wrong.... the bill was 1/3rd tax breaks, thats even been cited in this thread. NOT TO MENTION, the chart already includes the spendings in it. Nusty failed again
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    Originally Posted by MrRIP View Post
    ^^ the bill wasnt 787 billion in spending...your first point is wrong.... the bill was 1/3rd tax breaks, thats even been cited in this thread. NOT TO MENTION, the chart already includes the spendings in it. Nusty failed again
    I didn't say it was "spending".

    And what's included in the chart has nothing to do with the request made by Ecto: To list all spending bills signed into law by Barack Obama in 2009 - and their effect on the deficit. Not to mention, the OP chart pretends that Obama had no control over any 2009 spending - a position which has been solidly disproven multiple times.

    So, your post was completely irrelevant to the questions I directly responded to. But thanks for Trolling what's been a failed Troll thread anyway
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    Originally Posted by MrRIP View Post
    ^^ the bill wasnt 787 billion in spending...your first point is wrong.... the bill was 1/3rd tax breaks, thats even been cited in this thread. NOT TO MENTION, the chart already includes the spendings in it. Nusty failed again
    Don't Dems consider tax cuts to be new debt and that is why they call for them to be "paid for"? So would it be more accurate to say $787,000,000,000 in spending and new debt?
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    That chart looks so much better in color................



    Notice how spending always increase under Republicans and than dips under Democrats?Isn't that the opposite of everything conservatives believe?

    Government spending is going to increase if the economy is growing, that will never change.

    Check Federal Expenses as a percentage of GDP, that will give you a better idea of having control of spending. You can't blame Obama for the loss of revenue over the past years but you will see that spending as a percentage of the US economy is the highest its been in modern times and there has yet to be viable solution on how to prevent it from getting exponentially worse.

    I suppose pointing at the guy before Obama is probably a much easier defense.
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    Sad little Canuck... still can't comprehend that Barack Obama and a Democrat-controlled Congress are actually responsible for spending bills written by a Democrat-controlled Congress and signed into law by Barack Obama in 2009

    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    I don't give a fiddlers fawk about '09 or '08 or '07 etc when Bush's ass sat in the White House!!!
    Thanks for proving, again, your complete ignorance about a topic you keep ranting about. I never said a damn thing about 2008 or 2007 - but I very clearly highlight OBAMA'S NEW SPENDING IN 2009. $400 Billion more than Bush's budget request (all of which delivered to him by legislation from the Pelosi/Reid Democrat-controlled Congress). I even listed the major spending bills for you - with Barack Obama's signature in early and mid 2009.

    The fact that you want to blindly ignore the facts you wish weren't true really highlights that you're either a Troll, or a pathetic partisan hack.

    You are aware that Obama inherited a $1.3 Trillion deficit from Bush and the Republicans aren't you?
    And then you post more bizarre lies. How is your statement possible, when a Democrat-controlled Congress had been writing all spending bills for two years prior to Obama taking office? He didn't "inherit" the $1.3 Trillion deficit in 2009... HE SIGNED MUCH OF IT INTO LAW! - after all of it was (once again) produced by the Pelosi/Reid House & Senate.

    So, if you're just going to keep posting lies that have been repeatedly disproven, I'll keep pointing out that you're a liar who intentionally ignores cited facts.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    I don't give a fiddlers fawk about '09 or '08 or '07 etc when Bush's ass sat in the White House!!!
    Bush 2009 budget request: $3,107 Billion
    Obama 2009 actual spending: $3,517 Billion
    Obama 2010 budget request: $3,591 Billion

    OP & Canuck response: Blame Bush, pretend Obama didn't increase spending
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post

    Feb 17, 2009: $787 Billion stimulus bill (partial spending in FY09)
    When you say partial spending you are being disinegnuous, considering that much of it was tax cuts it would be more reasonable to detail what was spent but I understand you would have to know what you were talking about to do that so I will move on.

    Mar 11, 2009: $410 Billion omnibus spending bill (all spent during FY09)
    Why is the appropriations bill laid at the feet of obama like it was a spending increase that he came up with on his own? If congress wasn't broken bush would have signed it. The isn't new spending it was an incremental increase from the year before and the difference in the appropriations bill wasn't terribly significant from 08 to 09, so explain to me why you are indicating that obama spent 410B? Are you ignorant of the reality here or just being disingenuous as usual?
    Apr 21, 2009: $5.7 Billion Americorps spending bill
    Jun 24, 2009: $106 Billion Supplemental Appropriations Act http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr2346/text (To fund the continued Iraq War and expanded Afghanistan War, and a few unrelated things - supposedly the last "Supplemental" for War spending - yet another promise that he later broke).
    ok with these.

    George Bush 2009 budget proposal: $3,107 Billion
    Barack Obama's actual 2009 spending: $3,518 Billion
    If you weren't a disgustingly partisan, **** I forget what term is it you use to smear other people while being hillariously blind to the irony of it? Patisan hack, that's it. If you weren't a disgustingly partisan hack you would at least reclassify the spending increase to show what bush was responsible for and what obama was responsible for but you don't even do that. You go year over year and say oh look 20% which is just dumb.

    At least attribute bush's projected to him and then start from there with obama which would at a minimum give you something liek 6.5% increase for bush in 09 and 13% for obama 09 over bush 09. Alternately you could do obama 10 over projected bush 09 which would be something like 16% tops but since you are a partisan hack and honestly a pretty reprehensible person to argue/debate, you would rather lay it all at the feet of your political opponent even though you know its bull****.



    Wow, really tense this morning. "How Obama wants to spend money" was clearly detailed in his first budget proposal - which requested $3,591 Billion for 2010: To include a $1,258 Billion deficit, and was $600 Billion more than Federal spending the year before he took office (a 20% increase).
    See what I mean? Total partisan hackery and disingenuous douchebaggery.
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    Threads like this make me wish the zombie apocalypse would happen tomorrow. Our government is so full of sh!t lol
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