Do I seriously need 1g of protein per fuarking lb?? or even .8 per lbm.. I cant do it

[Hyruliangoat]

I have never been a high protein guy, I recently bulked up to 225-230 and ever since I started lifting ive probably only gotten 150g of protein if that, most of my calories were from carbs and fats, I would eat a chit ton of them. Now that I am cutting, its even harder to get around 200g of protein, I cant stomach it and it's making me sick trying to reach it.

My point is, considering ive gone this long and OBVIOUSLY done pretty well without high protein, is there truly a need for me to continue force feeding the protein?

[Flat4Suby]

considering ive gone this long and OBVIOUSLY done pretty well without high protein, is there truly a need for me to continue force feeding the protein?

you just answered your own question haha

[wonderboyWR]

Wanna get lean or no?

[Hyruliangoat]

you just answered your own question haha

lmao well I just wanted more insight

Wanna get lean or no?

ive been lean doing a fairly low amount of protein so...

[WonderPug]

Protein intake in the range of 150 grams is likely sufficient, especially when bulking, with a bit more (perhaps 175 grams) when cutting also likely meeting sufficiency. And even lower intake might not have a particularly noticeable negative real-world impact in terms of building or at least preserving skeletal muscle mass.

I based this suggestion on the following review of journal published research on the subject: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129150/

[Flat4Suby]

lmao well I just wanted more insight

hah yeah I hear ya, I just didn't wanna give advice to someone whos been around way longer than me...figured you already knew everything that i know :]

[Hyruliangoat]

Protein intake in the range of 150 grams is likely sufficient, especially when bulking, with a bit more (perhaps 175 grams) when cutting also likely meeting sufficiency. And even lower intake might not have a particularly noticeable negative real-world impact in terms of building or at least preserving skeletal muscle mass.

I based this suggestion on the following review of journal published research on the subject: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2129150/

this helped a lot and made me more comfortable with having it lower and it explains my good result with doing so, thanks again for this. Im just going to expirement with 150 roughly while I cut, ive done it before no problem so we'll see how this goes.

[Bl4ckfl4g]

Well it looks like you are doing ok to me. I always make sure I hit 200g but it hasn't seem to have held you back.

[determined4000]

Sounds like you are trying to justify eating little to yourself rather than seek answers

[wonderboyWR]

I don't see how it's so hard anyways. You can get 100 grams in just 4 scoops of protein!

[MAGnitude]

I don't see how it's so hard anyways. You can get 100 grams in just 4 scoops of protein!

who wants to drinks protein shakes anyways. id rather whole foods. and 100g through whole foods isnt that much food either.

[mackd]

I usually hit 100g from just protein powder alone.

eg. Have Oats for breakfest, mix a scoop of protein powder in with it.
After training, instead of having 1 scoop, have 2 scoops in a shaker bottle.
Casein shake before bed

= 100g just from shakes. And im only really having 2 shakes. So its not like your sipping on shakes all day. Just double up the scoops.

Then get 100g from whole foods, lunch/dinner/snacks. you have your total 200g easy.

[SLO]

Protein intake while cutting is much more important than while bulking to preserve the LBM you worked so hard for.

150g isn't hard to do at all, even without any powders or bars.

[wonderboyWR]

who wants to drinks protein shakes anyways. id rather whole foods. and 100g through whole foods isnt that much food either.

Never said it was, just stating that it was simple either way

[wonderboyWR]

protein intake while cutting is much more important than while bulking to preserve the lbm you worked so hard for.

150g isn't hard to do at all, even without any powders or bars.

This!

[Loctus]

OP you need less protein per lb of bodyweight the more fat you have, so I guess 150 would be fine for you.

[wisdomcube]

I never take protein supplements and it is still difficult for me to consume less than 150g per day. I would actually have to try in order to get less than that.

[ErickStevens]

I get 300g per day but I could probably eat 400-500g easy. Man up, OP.

[waqas11]

Its pretty easy OP! Eat 500grams of chicken breast 126grams protein right there!

I use to find it hard but now i plan ahead so its easy.

[Flex500]

who wants to drinks protein shakes anyways. id rather whole foods. and 100g through whole foods isnt that much food either.

well you are comparing protein powder to whole food which is often not the correct comparison. It is usually protein shake or not hitting your macros/missing meals/or jacking up your macro's pounding food that doesn't fit. It's a convenience item made of processed food to help hit your macros. there is nothing inherently "bad" about protein shakes.

Trust me Instead of the 2 shakes I'm going to drink for "meals" today I'd love to have a steak or chicken and a potato or something. But I'll be in a medical building with about 3 minutes to eat a meal...so a shake is what happens or I just don't eat.

[Flex500]

I have never been a high protein guy, I recently bulked up to 225-230 and ever since I started lifting ive probably only gotten 150g of protein if that, most of my calories were from carbs and fats, I would eat a chit ton of them. Now that I am cutting, its even harder to get around 200g of protein, I cant stomach it and it's making me sick trying to reach it.

My point is, considering ive gone this long and OBVIOUSLY done pretty well without high protein, is there truly a need for me to continue force feeding the protein?

you seem like you are doing fine and honestly you'll probably be fine around that amount of protein. As you progress and get bigger and stronger I would wager you will need more protein (especially when cutting) to continue to progess. When I was your age I didn't even count protein and I probably ate 80-125 grams a day...what I mean is I get it.

However...looking back I wish I personally would have gotten more. I think i would have progressed more to be honest. But at least you are getting 150 grams which is plenty sufficient for now I'd think.

How about getting some protein powder? I'm a proponent of whole food for health and satisfaction but get a good tasting powder and it's like a dessert dude. Two scopps of trutein protein powder mixed with 12 ouces of milk has 56 grams of protein. It tastes like a dang dessert too. Great way to help hit macros.

[emac_fenian]

OP: It seems to be working fine for you so far. But you're also 18 and you have the high testosterone boost working for you that most of us wish we could now. It honestly wouldn't hurt to consume a little more protein and might help you out too, especially in the long run. 4 ounces of chicken is nothing -- I could eat it in a couple bites probably -- and it's ~25 grams of protein. Just add some more chicken to your diet, why not?

[Hyruliangoat]

Sounds like you are trying to justify eating little to yourself rather than seek answers

to a certain extent yes lol, I mean if its going to be that much of a difference then obviously ill suck it up and eat more, but it isnt worth the hassle if the difference isnt significant.

I usually hit 100g from just protein powder alone.

eg. Have Oats for breakfest, mix a scoop of protein powder in with it.
After training, instead of having 1 scoop, have 2 scoops in a shaker bottle.
Casein shake before bed

= 100g just from shakes. And im only really having 2 shakes. So its not like your sipping on shakes all day. Just double up the scoops.

Then get 100g from whole foods, lunch/dinner/snacks. you have your total 200g easy.

I used to get 150- 200 from powder

I get 300g per day but I could probably eat 400-500g easy. Man up, OP.

Have a carb eating contest with me you will fail

Its pretty easy OP! Eat 500grams of chicken breast 126grams protein right there!

I use to find it hard but now i plan ahead so its easy.

Chicken is gross lol

you seem like you are doing fine and honestly you'll probably be fine around that amount of protein. As you progress and get bigger and stronger I would wager you will need more protein (especially when cutting) to continue to progess. When I was your age I didn't even count protein and I probably ate 80-125 grams a day...what I mean is I get it.

However...looking back I wish I personally would have gotten more. I think i would have progressed more to be honest. But at least you are getting 150 grams which is plenty sufficient for now I'd think.

How about getting some protein powder? I'm a proponent of whole food for health and satisfaction but get a good tasting powder and it's like a dessert dude. Two scopps of trutein protein powder mixed with 12 ouces of milk has 56 grams of protein. It tastes like a dang dessert too. Great way to help hit macros.

Ur preaching to the choir Flex, I thought you would have recognized me from the supp section lulz. I cant really do powders anymore I should have mentioned that earlier, I was always fine with doing 4-8 scoops of it a day on top of the little bit of meat that I would eat but for whatever reason I cant handle it anymore, dont know why. I can do maybe 1 shake a day past that and it makes me sick now, even with gut health and fiber blah blah

OP: It seems to be working fine for you so far. But you're also 18 and you have the high testosterone boost working for you that most of us wish we could now. It honestly wouldn't hurt to consume a little more protein and might help you out too, especially in the long run. 4 ounces of chicken is nothing -- I could eat it in a couple bites probably -- and it's ~25 grams of protein. Just add some more chicken to your diet, why not?

4 oz is more feasible, I guess I could just add it to meals at random for at least an extra 20-30g

[kanis999]

I eat 1 lb of chicken every day. It really isn't that hard to prepare, cook, and eat, and its about 90g of protein and only 500 calories in one sitting. Maybe 700 calories if you stir fry it with some delicious sauce. It's all too easy to meet protein requirements when you have a meal like that every day.

[Hyruliangoat]

I eat 1 lb of chicken every day. It really isn't that hard to prepare, cook, and eat, and its about 90g of protein and only 500 calories in one sitting. Maybe 700 calories if you stir fry it with some delicious sauce. It's all too easy to meet protein requirements when you have a meal like that every day.

Ive been eating a lb of beef or a lb of bison every day and its still hard too, half a pound kills my appetite for the whole day

[ESPN2]

OP you should eat 1g of protein per lb of LBM, that would probably be around 120 grams per day for you

[emac_fenian]

OP you should eat 1g of protein per lb of LBM, that would probably be around 120 grams per day for you

The OP's stats show he is 193lbs. 120lbs LBM would make him 38% body fat. It sure does not look like he has 38% body fat in his picture.

[OliBrah]

I don't like protein either, brah, much rather eat carbs/fats.. I only ate ~140g/day cutting and saw absolutely no difference as opposed to when I was eating 200g+.. Love me some carbs, MOAR carbs!

[Hyruliangoat]

OP you should eat 1g of protein per lb of LBM, that would probably be around 120 grams per day for you

omg loled s ohard reps on rc

I don't like protein either, brah, much rather eat carbs/fats.. I only ate ~140g/day cutting and saw absolutely no difference as opposed to when I was eating 200g+.. Love me some carbs, MOAR carbs!

^makes me feel even better lulz. yeah im a huge carb guy, I can eat pasta and rice nonstop but meat uhh

[Gemuadrken]

There are a few tricks I have found to getting those protein numbers up.

-Soy flour: 80 calories, 14g protein per 1/4 cup. Great for pancakes and whatever other things you want to bake. It doesnt raise quite like regular flour for baked goods tho.

-Fat free cheddar: 45 calories, 9g protein per 1/4 cup. Adds a lot o protein to a pizza, or eggs, or whatever you want cheese on.

-99/1 ground turkey/beef: having your turkey be 99% protein, and 1% fat gets you a lot more protein for the calories. a 1/4 pound of it in something like burger form is like 120 calories, 27g protein, less than 1g of fat.


Anyways these are just a few "efficient" ways of getting protein. I guess shakes are there to.

There have been some reputable answers to your question in this thread, and I would go ahead and listen to those. You said yourself that you are doing fine with a lower protein intake than many others on BB.com, and you obviously are.

But it really comes down to whatever works for you. Does it work for you? Yes. Could you maybe see more gains on higher protein? Maybe. If your happy with how things are going, then there is no need to change anything.

Well that was a big post that probably didnt help at all. Lol.