hey IPF brahs, welcome to being able to actually use a bench shirt now.
http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/file...Version4.0.pdfIPF Technical Rules — Important Updates
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Powerlifts and the Rules of Performance - Bench press
8. After receiving the signal, the lifter must lower the bar to the chest or abdominal area, hold it motionless [...]
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Causes for Disqualification of a Bench press.
5. Bar is not lowered to chest i.e. not reaching the chest and abdominal area.
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11-26-2012, 09:58 AM #7411*Mods/CS will not, nor can they change your username, so don't ask*
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11-26-2012, 10:01 AM #7412
yeah saw that a couple weeks ago. The rule was just too arbitrary to judge in my opinion. Good move.
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11-26-2012, 10:07 AM #7413
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11-26-2012, 10:20 AM #7414
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11-26-2012, 10:21 AM #7415
here it is
A Quick Intro to the Cube
For those of you that don't know how I model my training, this is my second week of my deadlift wave so it is a speed week. My waves are 3 weeks for squat bench and deadlift and they are modeled like this.
Week 1-Max Effort
Week 2-Dynamic Effort
Week 3-Repetition Method
I call it "Cube Training" as when its mapped out it looks like a cube. I never lift heavy on two lifts in a week. If I dead heavy, my bench is dynamic, and my squat is for reps, and as the weeks rotate the effort is rotated also. In the form of a cube.
Here's the setup:
WEEK 1 2 3
Deads- 1 2 3
Bench- 2 3 1
Squats- 3 1 2
Sundays are always a bodybuilding day. Just pick a few exercises to focus on weak points, and I always include Military Presses, and leg presses as I like keeping my quads, and shoulders strong.This method has worked extremely well for me, in preventing burnout, and building excitement for my heavy days. Any muscular deficiencies addressed on Sunday.
This type of training has given me my best two meets of my life, a 2530 geared, and 2105 Raw w/knee wraps. I very very seldom use a box to squat to, and usually only incorporate it on my rep day for high rep sets, and I no longer use bands from the floor on squats, I use straight weight until I do a couple overload sets and use Reverse Bands.
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11-26-2012, 10:34 AM #7416
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I'm following it as the guys at Westside have been using a 1 week IN the shirt/2 weeks OUT method. Both AJ and Hoff have benched over 900lbs in a full competition. My goal is to get into the 8's, so I figure they're probably on to something. I've always been a firm believer that the stronger you are out of gear, the more you'll get out of the gear when you put it on. Egg on my face, I haven't done much about getting stronger out of gear until this last year. I really think the combination of the two will help me take it to the next level. Mayyyyyybe even find a deadlift.
I plan on working with him in a few months. He stresses the accessory work is key to avoid burnout and help the main lifts. Wendler and others have said the same thing. I figure his cost will be worth it to learn that if nothing else for my own programming down the road.
And yes, for me it's a nice change from 5/3/1. Incorporating my gear into 5/3/1 isn't very doable, but with the Cube Method it seems to be similar to how Westside does things.900/705/633/2125
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11-26-2012, 11:33 AM #7417
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13. It is forbidden to whip and smash the lifter in front of the audience and media."
The IPF giveth and the IPF taketh away. We already can't sniff ammonia in front of the audience or camera. I guess they want to be in the Olympics so badly that they are gonna make powerlifting events look like Olympic Weightlifting where there is little/no screaming, yelling, or anything else that might be a sign of "increased testosterone" since we are supposed to be drug free.1372 @ 205
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11-26-2012, 11:39 AM #7418
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11-26-2012, 11:46 AM #74191372 @ 205
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11-26-2012, 11:48 AM #7420
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The muscles i value most are the ones directly surrounding the spine, the hips, the scapula, the femur and the tibia... in that order.
Basically the whole body minus chest and biceps... pretty much the opposite of what your local gym looks like on a typical Monday.
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11-26-2012, 11:48 AM #7421
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11-26-2012, 11:51 AM #74221372 @ 205
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11-26-2012, 11:53 AM #7423
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The muscles i value most are the ones directly surrounding the spine, the hips, the scapula, the femur and the tibia... in that order.
Basically the whole body minus chest and biceps... pretty much the opposite of what your local gym looks like on a typical Monday.
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11-26-2012, 11:54 AM #7424
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11-26-2012, 11:55 AM #7425
My honest opinion. Start with just Raw Benching. There are million fringe sports that want to be in the olympics but never will be. If you want consideration from the IOC then you better give them reason to believe you can help them make more money. Since most gym goers understand a bench press and people want to be able to compare themselves to stronger people a raw bench press is probably the best place to start. Maybe they can hope to jump onto the billion dollar supplement industry with this... but don't hold your breathe cause even this is about as likely as the Brown's winning the Super Bowl this year.
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11-26-2012, 11:55 AM #7426
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11-26-2012, 11:56 AM #7427*Mods/CS will not, nor can they change your username, so don't ask*
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11-26-2012, 12:01 PM #7428
While the Olympics is cool and all it is not the pinnacle of every sport. Soccer has their own World Cup and people don't give a fawk about who wins soccer in the Olympics. They don't even send any of the good players. So powerlifting doesn't need the Olympics. They need to find a way to unify feds/rules/divisions and come up with 1 Powerlifting World event. I mean even if they kept raw, raw w/ wraps, single ply, and multi ply they could just have 1 World Championship for each of those events and you would still have a ton of strong a$$ people on one stage competing against each other. And it would still be a unification compared to right now since they would toss out high school, collegiate, junior, sub-junior, master, and all those other divisions that might have national and world championships in various feds.
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11-26-2012, 12:04 PM #7429
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11-26-2012, 12:06 PM #7430
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seems like you two personally oppose this proposition. what are your reasons for taking such position?
good thoughs, a rise in popularity would definitely help make it happen. however this would also "corrupt" the sport as its not really a bench only deal
there could be separate categories for weightlifting and powerlifting, along with unique medals for respective placement in total & individual lifts
are you personally in favor of PL going olympic?The muscles i value most are the ones directly surrounding the spine, the hips, the scapula, the femur and the tibia... in that order.
Basically the whole body minus chest and biceps... pretty much the opposite of what your local gym looks like on a typical Monday.
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11-26-2012, 12:06 PM #74311372 @ 205
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11-26-2012, 12:09 PM #7432
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11-26-2012, 12:12 PM #7433
Most of the time it's not even good for people in the audience, live.
If PL were to be on TV, it'd need:
1) A very small number of competitors
2) A format like the WPO
3) Large purses
4) Some kind of graphic indicator onscreen for the viewers indicating what the weight is equivalent to for the average viewer (e.g., "He's attempting to lift 2 entire refrigerators. He's squatting a 1.5 Harleys. He's benching half your wife!")
5) Slow-mo replay of accidents, and fairly frequent accidents (also nosebleeds, earbleeds, eye and face blowouts, broken bones, torn muscles/tendons/ligaments, etc.)
6) lots of commentary with history, past performances, etc. to keep it lively.
In short, it'd have to be a full-blow production catering to the audience, not the lifters.
Imagine WWE plus NASCAR. You want to see lots of extreme stuff, lots of blood, lots of failure, character development and background, and a sense of drama and purpose.
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11-26-2012, 12:12 PM #7434
no i'm not in favor of PL going olympic.
you completely missed the point...the reason that weightlifting would have to go away is that the IOC is NOT adding sports to the Olympics. Moreover, they already have a barbell sport...weightlifting. there is no reason to add powerlifting. As I've said multiple times on this subject, they almost got rid of weightlifting as it is...they're not going to add powerlifting.*Mods/CS will not, nor can they change your username, so don't ask*
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11-26-2012, 12:15 PM #7435
It's the pinnacle of every sport that doesn't have a major league that concentrates all the world's talent into a competing organization and pays them.
Unifying powerlifting can only be done through incentive; money or olympic medals. There is no way feasible to make Powerlifting a professional sport with economic incentives. That has an ever lesser chance of happening than making the olympics.
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11-26-2012, 12:16 PM #7436
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11-26-2012, 12:20 PM #7437
From what I've heard, powerlifting has a 0% chance of making the Olympics thus a 0% chance of unification through being in the Olympics. So someone needs to come up with another way of unifying without having to be accepted into a group that is not accepting anyone right now.
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So, basically, fawk the Olympics. Lets start making super feds like the NCAAF is making super conferences.1372 @ 205
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11-26-2012, 12:26 PM #7438
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11-26-2012, 12:28 PM #7439
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Awesome, lets make a new fed... perfect solution. Never has happened before.
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11-26-2012, 12:29 PM #7440
So Bill, I'm reading through that newsletter you linked to and they say things like,
"Emanuel has had a meeting with representatives from the IOC. Progress has been made but we still have further tasks to complete to the satisfaction of the IOC. This work is in progress and I plan to meet Mr Tamas Ajan President of the Weightlifting Federation together with Emanuel in December and hope we can have a productive meeting and obtain an indication what further requirements are needed to progress our IOC application and ultimately our recognition as an Olympic sport."
"The IOC representatives were very impressed about the complete and well done application the IPF. They pointed out the improvement since the last application 2006 and the great work in Anti Doping and Media (live streaming, magazine) matters."
"The conclusion of the meeting was that the IPF has to finalize some additional paperwork but the IPF is on the right way and all participants of the meeting agreed that the IPF is ready for this big step - the IOC recognition."
Do you think that is just the IPF being overly hopeful and trying to make it sound like its going to happen?1372 @ 205
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