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  1. 06-29-2012, 11:34 AM #1
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    Lightbulb possibly the best atheist argument I've ever seen

    I'm not an atheist but I liked this argument. How do you respond?


    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus
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  2. 06-29-2012, 11:36 AM #2
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  3. 06-29-2012, 11:36 AM #3
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    god has givien us free well
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  4. 06-29-2012, 11:37 AM #4
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    pretty good argument
    inb4 Einstein argument
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  6. 06-29-2012, 11:40 AM #5
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    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument
    Panthers/Tar Heels/Hurricanes/Durham Bulls
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    Originally Posted by danimccoy View Post
    god has givien us free well

    wells gives us free water. the cycle goes on and on
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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument
    Only for god fearing idiots.
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  9. 06-29-2012, 11:41 AM #8
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    Originally Posted by Need2bulk4life View Post
    pretty good argument
    inb4 Einstein argument
    Unaware of einstein argument
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    Originally Posted by Bdool View Post
    I'm not an atheist but I liked this argument. How do you respond?


    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus
    able, but not willing...you are making a leap in logic to label that as malevolent. you are also assigning a human word/value/motive to it...Americans would say 9/11 was evil (I agree)...jihadists on the other hand, would call it a great and glorious act, and they mean it. to call something malevolent or evil is assigning our value to it. I think its easy to understand that if you do believe in God that is omniscient and omnipotent that there may be a reason in his not acting to stop evil that is beyond some value or word that we assign to his motive. and thats going on the premise that an absolute evil exists anyway.
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  12. 06-29-2012, 11:42 AM #10
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    Any argument that feels the need to even entertain the concept of god is not the best argument for atheism.
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    you assume god is a conscious being, therefore this would make it impossible for god to omnipotent in the first place

    this quote is a logical fallacy
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    Originally Posted by Bdool View Post
    I'm not an atheist but I liked this argument. How do you respond?


    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus
    There is a free will of good and evil so if God stopped all of evil he would violate a man's choice to obey and would have to end every life on earth.


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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument
    This
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    Nice wordplay but fail argument. Not that Epicurus wasn't great, but...
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    Originally Posted by DGBoutte View Post
    There is a free will of good and evil so if God stopped all of evil he would violate a man's choice to obey and would have to end every life on earth.


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    but what about all that stuff in the bible srs
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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument
    unless you follow the wrong faith. what if islam or judaism are right? ETERNITY IN HELL
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    That Einstein argument has got to be fake
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    also its not an argument that god doesnt exist, its an argument that if he exists, he's a *******
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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument
    Thus the reason we still have religion today.
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    Im not religious, but all atheist arguments are easy to defeat.

    All religious people have to do is say "He's fuking God. Do you really think he's going to let you dumbass figure him out?"
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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument
    So Abrahamic GOD or nothing eh? Very cultured you are
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    Originally Posted by heatd View Post
    unless you follow the wrong faith. what if islam or judaism are right? ETERNITY IN HELL
    Like God gives a **** about Jews and Arabs...
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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...


    Even better argument

    Only if you actually believe God is dumb enough to not know when people are only believing in him to hedge their bets and doesn't see through your bullsht.
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    Did god not create Adam and Eve in his own image?
    Do Adam and Eve have belly-buttons? Yes
    What are belly-buttons for? Umbilical Cords
    Where do umbilical Cords come from? Mothers

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    If you believe and you're wrong...nothing
    If you believe and you're right...awesome
    If you don't believe and you're wrong...
    If you believe the wrong thing and you're wrong....


    Even better argument
    Oh, hey, Pascal rears his head again! This is easily one of the most BRUTALLY refuted arguments of all time. Can you guess what the refutations are?

    (My favourite part is how it PRESUPPOSES an irrational, malicious deity, but that's not a refutation... although it is related to one of them)
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