who had best genetics of all time???

**biggash** · 01-21-2005, 04:49 PM

Just curious who you guys thought the most genetically gifted bodybuilder was. I got my money on Flex Wheeler up until he destroyed his look trying to catch Ronnie.

**Fluff** · 01-21-2005, 04:53 PM

Steve Reeves!

**biggash** · 01-21-2005, 05:01 PM

Good answer!!!

**Fluff** · 01-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Best shape ever IMO
http://www.dolfzine.com/reeves.jpg
http://davedraper.com/steve-reeves.gif

**AYung** · 01-21-2005, 05:27 PM

Most bodybuilders have great genetics, but the one that stands out most in my mind, much like a lot of people, is Steeve Reeves.

**BigLarge** · 01-21-2005, 05:31 PM

Ok, reeves had a great build, but not the best by any means.

Flex Wheeler hands down.

**Powers|ave** · 01-21-2005, 05:59 PM

sergio oliva, hands down. not just how he looked, but what all he did -or didnt do-to maintain the best shape ever

**F W Nietszche** · 01-21-2005, 06:12 PM

Let me give you some background:

Sergio Oliva
The original freak, great shoulder girdle, think joints, full muscle bellies, tiny waist etc. His diet consisted of hotdogs, burgers and A LOT of COKE. He never dieted for competition (it shows) and he did very few exercises (only bench for chest etc.) I have some articles, thats apparently all he did without Jones. He also had a very lax training ethod prior to his work with Jones.

Paul Dillet
Execellent mass, thin waist all with very lax training.

Steeve Reeves
More aesthetic rather than big.

Note its only half the article uploaded because my internet is too slow, but the full one is on the ironage forums

**F W Nietszche** · 01-21-2005, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by biggash

Just curious who you guys thought the most genetically gifted bodybuilder was. I got my money on Flex Wheeler up until he destroyed his look trying to catch Ronnie.

Flex was really *good* in the genetics department, he had symetry, but I think that he was very close to Zane... had trouble adding size to his frame... not ideal for bodybuilding, maybe better something else.

**drewkowsky** · 01-21-2005, 06:33 PM

Steve Reeves and Flex

**Myth Destroyer** · 01-21-2005, 06:41 PM

Kevin Levrone. If you can get in that shape by only training for a few months...

**bigasssnowman** · 01-21-2005, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Myth Destroyer

Kevin Levrone. If you can get in that shape by only training for a few months...

Sergio gets my vote. i like how no one has said arnold yet

**Cyclops** · 01-21-2005, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Myth Destroyer

Kevin Levrone. If you can get in that shape by only training for a few months...

That's largely due to muscle memory.

And to the guy that posted Sergio's diet? Get real dude.

**C-Money** · 01-21-2005, 07:16 PM

My vote is for Franky Zane, exactly the kind of build i would want!

**gjoe** · 01-21-2005, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by C-Money

My vote is for Franky Zane, exactly the kind of build i would want!

Sergio Oliva. The Myth

**Powers|ave** · 01-21-2005, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclops

That's largely due to muscle memory.

And to the guy that posted Sergio's diet? Get real dude.

its true. sergio was notorious for his poor diet. he did 'diet' a little for shows, but he wasnt really very knowledgeable in that department(supposedly) or he realised it didnt matter, he would still own everyone.
also, he worked a full time job doing physical labor to make a living, and worked out when he could, unlike the other guys who have their lives built around bbing. hes also been shot a few times.

"it seems like everything i ate turned into muscle" - sergio oliva

**Myth Destroyer** · 01-21-2005, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclops

That's largely due to muscle memory.

I doubt it. After not training for 9 months muscle memory alone won't get you back and in CONTEST shape in only 3 months. He has to have phenomenal genetics to make it work.

**MenTaLPiRacY** · 01-21-2005, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by bigasssnowman

Sergio gets my vote. i like how no one has said arnold yet

i say sergio as well, arnold was great but i just think sergio had better genetic then him. Flex is my #2 choice #3 would have to go to reeves

**schneiderc** · 01-21-2005, 09:55 PM

Dorian Yates seemed like the most massive male bodybuilder ever. On the other hand, Berry DeMey and Bob Paris had the perfect physique. Among female bodybuilders, Cory Everson. To me, she was the best in the history of the sport, she was beautiful and very athletic, best of all, natural!

**Cyclops** · 01-21-2005, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Myth Destroyer

I doubt it. After not training for 9 months muscle memory alone won't get you back and in CONTEST shape in only 3 months. He has to have phenomenal genetics to make it work.

Don't exaggerate, it was never 3 months, more like 5-6.

**Cyclops** · 01-21-2005, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Powers|ave

its true. sergio was notorious for his poor diet. he did 'diet' a little for shows, but he wasnt really very knowledgeable in that department(supposedly) or he realised it didnt matter, he would still own everyone.
also, he worked a full time job doing physical labor to make a living, and worked out when he could, unlike the other guys who have their lives built around bbing. hes also been shot a few times.

"it seems like everything i ate turned into muscle" - sergio oliva

I can't let myself believe that just because some 15 year old on the internet is saying it's so doesn't mean it is. I believe the labour part of it but not the hot dogs/coke diet.

**Powers|ave** · 01-21-2005, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclops

I can't let myself believe that just because some 15 year old on the internet is saying it's so doesn't mean it is. I believe the labour part of it but not the hot dogs/coke diet.

im not 15...why dont you try reading up on him before you come on here trying to argue things you dont know about

**Delo** · 01-22-2005, 06:18 AM

if your going to be throwing in small waists then who better than mention the one name Arnold 28 inch waist and 58 inch chest...

Who has a 30 inch drop?? I'd say that is being a little gifted..

**-Moores Gym-** · 01-22-2005, 06:21 AM

^^ Arnold's waist was 32 i think

**biggash** · 01-22-2005, 06:42 AM

Yeah Arnold's waist was around 32. It's his chest cavity and posing that made it look smaller.

**Myth Destroyer** · 01-22-2005, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Don't exaggerate, it was never 3 months, more like 5-6.

Oh, I always heard 3. :/

**AmateurWrestler** · 01-22-2005, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclops

I can't let myself believe that just because some 15 year old on the internet is saying it's so doesn't mean it is. I believe the labour part of it but not the hot dogs/coke diet.

But hot dogs have protein in them!!

**jayvee** · 01-22-2005, 07:22 AM

[QUOTE=Cyclops]That's largely due to muscle memory.

??? well yea, but muscle memory would have to be factored into genetics because some would simply be more genetically predispositioned to it than others. but many other pros did not have the gift of being able to get in such good shape earning them olympia finishes from second through to sixth on as little months of training as kevin. yes, it can be largerly due to muscle memory - but kevin is obviously more genetically predispositioned to a larger degree of muscle memory than many others - this must be factored into his excellent genetics as its all correlated.

**jayvee** · 01-22-2005, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Myth Destroyer

Kevin Levrone. If you can get in that shape by only training for a few months...

levrone agreed.. simply awesome.

**Mr. Shoulders** · 01-22-2005, 07:28 AM

Arnold...and then Dorian Yates

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