When I have done my first deadlift rep, I usually just lower the weight to the floor very quickly, almost like dropping the weight but not totally dropping it.
I am not sure how to reset myself for the next rep....
Do you guys just roll the weight backwards till its touching your shins, or do you pause, let go of the weight, and then start completely over from scratch to get into the starting position?
This may seem like a dumb question, but I find that deadlift is the hardest exercise to do multiple reps with very quickly, since the starting position has to be so precise.
Thread: Deadlifts and multiple reps
06-27-2012, 10:39 AM #1
Deadlifts and multiple reps
06-27-2012, 10:40 AM #2
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06-27-2012, 10:41 AM #3
I do it like Dave Tate:
Set it straight down by dropping it and bending at the waist. Then once it is on the floor, bend the knees till the shins touch the bar. Should just stay straight up and down the whole set.
06-27-2012, 10:42 AM #4
Controlled descent... perform whatever level of reset is necessary to get you back into the proper starting position. What you'll find is that you'll gear your descent and position to minimize the effort it takes to do this. In other words, practice.2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)
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06-27-2012, 10:44 AM #5
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06-27-2012, 10:50 AM #8
Less effort on the descent = better pulls on subsequent reps
Dropping the weight is not more difficult to set up for. You just need to get good at it.
06-27-2012, 10:53 AM #9
06-27-2012, 11:01 AM #10
You really dont think he is unloading that weight though? To me it looks like he's just falling with the weight..
06-27-2012, 11:05 AM #11
06-27-2012, 11:05 AM #12
Managing load throughout the movement with an option to bail if things go wrong is part of the reason I don't use straps, but this is one guy's opinion.2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)
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06-27-2012, 11:15 AM #14
When I do deads it is damn near a free fall from the top - but still no where close to me just dropping it. The bar lands about where it started, I drop my hips, get tight, and begin my next pull.
IMO, the most important part of the deadlift is the setup. If your setup is off, your lift will be bad. So take as much time as you need to to set up. If it means letting go of the bar and standing up between each rep, then do it.My Journal (RIP 05/11 - 09/13):
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06-27-2012, 12:52 PM #18
if you keep good form on descent you can probably not reset. some people like to be sure though. also I would add that the whole resetting process for me takes about 1 second.
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06-27-2012, 01:18 PM #20
jason ferruggis: http://jasonferruggia.com/drop-the-deadlift/
exrx - return bar to floor between reps http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html
Rippetoe (maybe more qualified than your average PT?) expressly teaches deadlifts from a dead stop in Starting Strength
do not have my copy at work with me but here is a mention http://strength-basics.blogspot.com/...adlifting.html
Wendler: You can either lower the bar slowly to the starting position or drop it. (from 5/3/1 manual) Wendler says touch-n-gos are also OK if you can do them safely with form
another strength coach: http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/tomdl.htm
Stronglifts 5x5: http://stronglifts.com/13-deadlift-m...hnique-stupid/
also you are putting words in my mouth with the "Completely drop" comment. I never said that anywhere. the statement was, and I quote, "many, many, many people consider proper deadlifting from a resting position on the ground."
dropping or lowering is your choice, resetting is your choice, but the bar goes to the ground between reps. which is what I thought I said. it was in response to your earlier post that you don't let the bar touch the ground doing deadlifts.
edit: I see you started to respond before I edited my post to clarify. point was that deadlifting is lifting the bar dead from the ground, and resetting/dropping/lowering/etc to get it there and back up or optional.
edit: more from 5/3/1 manual:
There are two options for doing multiple reps with the deadlift. You can either touch-and-go the reps (slight bounce off the floor), or you can do dead stop deadlifts. For these, you’ll reset for each rep. I’ve done both, and both work. The downside to touch-and-go is that when you build up momentum, you can bounce too hard and lose your tightness. If you’re strong enough to hold your position and you have the control to do it, this option will work for you. The dead stop option is good for most people, but make sure you reset perfectly each time.
I'd like to see a coach and/or someone reputable teaching deadlifts that show you don't return the bar to the ground. Very interested in that. SLDLs and RDLs don't count.
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06-27-2012, 01:43 PM #21
Are we seriously ****ing discussing whether or not the bar should TOUCH the ground in a set of deadlifts now?
That is so ****ing stupid. The reason the bar touches the ground is so you know that each lift starts and ends at the right place. If you're not touching the ground then you have no evidence that youre getting stronger rather than just leaving it half an inch further off the ground each time.
06-27-2012, 01:51 PM #22
OY ... why do these always degrade into abject stupidity? All the relevant concepts have been mentioned. Sprinkle a little common sense on the high points and you should have the tools to accomplish what you want with this lift.
This isn't rocket science.
2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)
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Get-n-fit: if you are not touching the ground with the weight, then how can you know if you are pulling it the same distance each time or if you are cutting the ROM?
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