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    Ben Pakulski - Hypertrophy Max

    For those that don't know Ben's new workout program just launched and for the first month you can name your own price and cancel later since the monthly fee is like $90. What I did was send $10 for the first month and will most likely cancel and by ordering today got a free 3 hour seminar that Ben offered for first day purchase. Just seemed like a good deal to me, first month and a seminar for $10

    Just wanted to let other forum members know

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    I'm running a log of MI40 now. Brutal. I will be moving on to Hypertrophy max later on

    Been talking to Ben. Smart dude, everything he says about training and diet makes so much sense
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    You can check out a few screen shots here:
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    I've only ever heard shady things of Vince Delmonte
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    Originally Posted by HiJacked View Post
    I've only ever heard shady things of Vince Delmonte
    Well it is not Vince's routine, Ben made it. Vince has the experience in selling routines online, so I am guessing that is why he is in on this
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    So the goal here is to scam Ben? Get a DVD on the cheap and a bunch of free info that he's worked hard to put together?

    Pass...
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    Originally Posted by CROMAGS1985 View Post
    So the goal here is to scam Ben? Get a DVD on the cheap and a bunch of free info that he's worked hard to put together?

    Pass...
    How is it scamming him since this is what he offers? Obviously you are not going to learn everything in a month, it takes time
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    He needs to use those techniques to bring up his Back and Biceps
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    Originally Posted by HiJacked View Post
    I've only ever heard shady things of Vince Delmonte
    He has a lot of haters because he is an aggressive marketer.

    I don't agree with Vince on everything, but most of the people who buy his programs are happy with their investment.

    The MI40 and Hypertrophy MAX workouts were designed by Ben (as another poster mentioned). These are both more appropriate for intermediate/advanced lifters.
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    Originally Posted by NaturalLoco View Post
    How is it scamming him since this is what he offers? Obviously you are not going to learn everything in a month, it takes time
    Low ball the initial fee and then cancel as soon as you get the chance...and whatever promotional materials promised? Seems like poor form to me. Maybe with Microsoft, Virgin or some other conglomerate but with "one of our own" who has made it to the elite level?

    Pass X 2...

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    Originally Posted by xStevenx View Post
    I'm running a log of MI40 now. Brutal. I will be moving on to Hypertrophy max later on

    Been talking to Ben. Smart dude, everything he says about training and diet makes so much sense
    Anything that has changed or improved your perspective? If so, what?
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    Originally Posted by HiJacked View Post
    I've only ever heard shady things of Vince Delmonte
    I'm watching MI40 right now and I cringe at the parts he's in. Never knew who he was before this.
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    Originally Posted by thenags View Post
    I'm watching MI40 right now and I cringe at the parts he's in. Never knew who he was before this.
    i know that feel bro lol. it is still a great program.
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    Originally Posted by xStevenx View Post
    i know that feel bro lol. it is still a great program.
    Absolutely. I've been following it for about 10 days now and swear I've seen more changes in my body in those 10 days than the last year. I wish that dbag would keep his mouth shut and let Ben explain everything like the other guys in the video instead of interrupt every 20 seconds with some dumb question he knows the answer to.
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    Originally Posted by PillClinton View Post
    Anything that has changed or improved your perspective? If so, what?
    Big time. Focusing on the muscle, keeping tension on it at ALL times (not as easy as it sounds). Learning to to really get the full ROM for a muscle. Biceps for example at the bottom stretched position, the bicep is fully stretched with tricep is flexed, so at the bottom start with tricep flexed then curl.

    there are tons of little things. I cannot give away too much in respect of Ben. He worked very hard laying this out. It is only like $70 for a wealth of knowledge

    I guess we will see how much I gain in the next 5.5 weeks. as of right now I am too sore to even move
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    Originally Posted by xStevenx View Post
    i know that feel bro lol. it is still a great program.
    Yeah Vince is definitely in there to cater towards the guys looking to achieve fitness model physiques and for marketing purposes. But in terms of the programs they're entirely Ben with what he has learned from Charles Poliquin. He actually knows the proper biomechanics for each muscle group which is what I found to be the greatest benefit from the videos is being able to apply techniques and know where muscles are fully lengthened/shortened.
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    Originally Posted by xStevenx View Post
    Big time. Focusing on the muscle, keeping tension on it at ALL times (not as easy as it sounds). Learning to to really get the full ROM for a muscle. Biceps for example at the bottom stretched position, the bicep is fully stretched with tricep is flexed, so at the bottom start with tricep flexed then curl.

    there are tons of little things. I cannot give away too much in respect of Ben. He worked very hard laying this out. It is only like $70 for a wealth of knowledge

    I guess we will see how much I gain in the next 5.5 weeks. as of right now I am too sore to even move
    Yeah, just kinda wanted to know the general stuff, was more curious about what you were taking from it then what he was talking about. I like Bpak, so i might do this when I have the time. Im sure ill take away something different than you did. What is mI40 btw?
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    Originally Posted by PillClinton View Post
    Yeah, just kinda wanted to know the general stuff, was more curious about what you were taking from it then what he was talking about. I like Bpak, so i might do this when I have the time. Im sure ill take away something different than you did. What is mI40 btw?
    It stand for Mass Intentions 40. 40 second sets, 40 seconds rest, 40 min workouts, 40 days
    benpakulski.com/MI40

    Completely different way of training than I am used to. I like it, it is more science backed, Ben having his degree in kinesiology knows how a lift should be executed, not some broscience stuff like curl your pinky up on curls for big biceps.

    Well worth the $70.
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    Originally Posted by kevsworld View Post
    He has a lot of haters because he is an aggressive marketer.

    I don't agree with Vince on everything, but most of the people who buy his programs are happy with their investment.

    The MI40 and Hypertrophy MAX workouts were designed by Ben (as another poster mentioned). These are both more appropriate for intermediate/advanced lifters.
    Well, I have bought a program from Vince, and I have bought around 10 different programs on the Internet and his program is one of the worst I have bought.
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    Originally Posted by PillClinton View Post
    Yeah, just kinda wanted to know the general stuff, was more curious about what you were taking from it then what he was talking about. I like Bpak, so i might do this when I have the time. Im sure ill take away something different than you did. What is mI40 btw?
    Here's my review of MI40. It's been the most popular intermediate/advanced bodybuilding program on my blogs as far as sales go.

    Just pay close attention to what I say about the upsells. It's fine if you want to buy them but not necessary.

    http://musclereview.net/mi40-mass-in...-ben-pakulski/
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    Vince and Ben have pretty much been marketing it as "their" program but it's really not. I don't think Vince is a bad guy but MI40 and HMax are Ben's programs. Hell Ben trains Vince.
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    He needs to use those techniques to bring up his Back and Biceps
    **** you have a nice back son
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    Paying for a non personal list of slightly different exercises and rep counts? Anyone who does that deserves to get ripped off. Research, experiment a little bit, do it yourself. Getting big really isnt that hard anyway.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    Paying for a non personal list of slightly different exercises and rep counts? Anyone who does that deserves to get ripped off. Research, experiment a little bit, do it yourself. Getting big really isnt that hard anyway.
    But brah.... 40 is a scientifically proven magic number. If you have four factors containing that number simultaneously there is a violent biological resonance resulting in an explosion of growthz.
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    Any programs you reccomend?

    Originally Posted by Mode1 View Post
    Well, I have bought a program from Vince, and I have bought around 10 different programs on the Internet and his program is one of the worst I have bought.
    Any programs you reccomend?
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    doe's anyone wonder, with all the different training programs why pros pretty much all look the same but it is only genetics that determine which body parts are better developed than the next guy? Training programs are such a load of chit imo. Do you think some supplement and training program will get you any better results than the next one? I would pay for an honest account of the hormones they use and it what exact doses rather than some bs pumped up training 'system'. Change your training when you start to plateau and try to find the exercises that you feel the most and think are the most beneficial to you personally.... There you go, now how do I market that?
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    Paying for a non personal list of slightly different exercises and rep counts? Anyone who does that deserves to get ripped off. Research, experiment a little bit, do it yourself. Getting big really isnt that hard anyway.
    lol this. No training program is gonna blow anyone up overnight, if i had the credentials i'd make a cool name to a training program and sell the hell out of it too. I know ben p knows what he's doing obviously but come on lol
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    Any cookie cutter, generic program that isn't personalized and followed up on a regular basis is just not worth paying for. Go read about DC training principles for free (what Dave Henry and Dusty Hanshaw uses - personalized to their needs of course), watch training videos, read articles by Layne Norton to get some ideas. But learn what works for your own body.

    I've tried a lot of things, and the only rules I have now are - 50-60 reps total for every workout. Reps for each set anything from 2 to 15. Exercises... variety. I never do the exact same workout. And of course - proper form. Feel the muscle work.. but also throw in some intense heavy ass sets from time to time. Progression in measurements, reps, or weight. Have fun in the gym and you'll stay consistent. Stay consistent and you'll get results over time.

    You don't need to always get stronger to get bigger. And you don't always get bigger if you get stronger. Take measurements. Not growing? Maybe you need to eat more. How's your sleep? Resting enough? Resting too much? Are you honestly challenging yourself every set intensity wise?

    Just be honest with yourself and look at things from a logical perspective and you'll grow.
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