pyaarawala's SS log to 1/2/3/4 plates on OHP/BP/SQ/DL, respectively

[tontyx]

To be honest, I honestly don't think PL programs are better than BB for Chest.

I am saying this because most of the BBers in the gym can bench a lot even if they can deadlift or Squat well. They are those everyday upper body day kind of guys, but I know several guys who can't squat 200, but can pump out 10 reps on 300. And with no leg drive etc.

So I have come to think that Bench may work differently. Not sure what. Maybe more Tricep Work? And High volume Bench. Incline, Decline, Flat, DB press, Flies, Pull overs and what not. I seriously haven't added anything to my bench in Months and I haven't missed any bench workout. Really confused here. maybe We should all do a Smolov Junior routine lol

[dk240t]

Nevermind, I just read on the TM guide that I can't transition one of the presses over from SS to TM. It's gotta be both at the same time. Well, I still have one more attempt at bench before I gotta reset, and press is still going fine so I'll continue with the same progression I was doing before.

I remember it saying that, but I don't see why. I think TM could be good for your bench. Doing 5x5 on VD got me really feeling more comfortable with my bench form.

[pyaarawala]

I remember it saying that, but I don't see why. I think TM could be good for your bench. Doing 5x5 on VD got me really feeling more comfortable with my bench form.

Well then I think the scheduling could get a little tricky. Let's see, if I do 5x5 bench on next Monday's VD, 3x5 press (SS-style) on Wed, then I could do bench ID 1x5 on Friday, but I believe the 3x5 max-effort press will affect my ID bench. Rippetoe says we're supposed to press medium on RD so as not to hinder the bench ID. So I'm not sure what to do. I'm sure I could do max-effort press on RD and still do my bench ID on Friday with no problem initially, but later on I'd probably end up stalling. I guess I could try it anyway.

[Jasonk282]

Well then I think the scheduling could get a little tricky. Let's see, if I do 5x5 bench on next Monday's VD, 3x5 press (SS-style) on Wed, then I could do bench ID 1x5 on Friday, but I believe the 3x5 max-effort press will affect my ID bench. Rippetoe says we're supposed to press medium on RD so as not to hinder the bench ID. So I'm not sure what to do. I'm sure I could do max-effort press on RD and still do my bench ID on Friday with no problem initially, but later on I'd probably end up stalling. I guess I could try it anyway.

Simple solution...

make 5x5 your repetition day
go to 5x3 @60% previous ID for speed work
Make 1x5 your max effort day

[pyaarawala]

To be honest, I honestly don't think PL programs are better than BB for Chest.

I am saying this because most of the BBers in the gym can bench a lot even if they can deadlift or Squat well. They are those everyday upper body day kind of guys, but I know several guys who can't squat 200, but can pump out 10 reps on 300. And with no leg drive etc.

So I have come to think that Bench may work differently. Not sure what. Maybe more Tricep Work? And High volume Bench. Incline, Decline, Flat, DB press, Flies, Pull overs and what not. I seriously haven't added anything to my bench in Months and I haven't missed any bench workout. Really confused here. maybe We should all do a Smolov Junior routine lol

Yeah I don't know what the deal is with them. I guess they just focus a lot more on bench instead of dividing the attention to all the major lifts. After all the bench press is the #1 exercise of the gym. I'm sure if I did nothing but bench and curl every day I'd get good at them too. Oh and a lot of them I also see either don't touch the chest, ass comes off the bench on each concentric, or have spotter's buddy lifting for them. Or a combination of all 3!

[pyaarawala]

Simple solution...

make 5x5 your repetition day
go to 5x3 @60% previous ID for speed work
Make 1x5 your max effort day

Hey man. Having a bit of trouble following. So you mean do 5x5 bench on VD, and 1x5 max-effort bench on ID, right? When am I supposed to do the 5x3 speed bench? RD? And what's the point of speed work anyway? And where would my press fit in all this?

[Jasonk282]

Hey man. Having a bit of trouble following. So you mean do 5x5 bench on VD, and 1x5 max-effort bench on ID, right? When am I supposed to do the 5x3 speed bench? RD? And what's the point of speed work anyway? And where would my press fit in all this?

You can press before you speed work.

The speed work is light enough that it's not going to be very diffcult to do. With speed work you are moving the bar as fast and as explosive as you can, which will translate into improved power and being able to be explosive will make getting the heavy weight moving much easier.

VD 5x5
RD 5x3 55% max effort(previous week) speed work after press
ID 1x5 max effort

[pyaarawala]

You can press before you speed work.

The speed work is light enough that it's not going to be very diffcult to do. With speed work you are moving the bar as fast and as explosive as you can, which will translate into improved power and being able to be explosive will make getting the heavy weight moving much easier.

VD 5x5
RD 5x3 55% max effort(previous week) speed work after press
ID 1x5 max effort

So I guess my press will be reduced to once a week 3x5 max-effort, on RD. I don't think it'd be a good idea to do 3x5 max-effort press and VD bench in one day. I'm a bit hesitant to do max effort press on RD, a couple days before my bench ID, but it seems that's the only place I can fit it in. On Tues I plan to add in an assistance day. I could see if it fits in there, perhaps as the first exercise. But it'll probably destroy my chest/shoulders/triceps as I have incline DB bench and weighted dips waiting in line. We'll see. Thanks dude!

[dk240t]

Yeah, just do that. It's fine. It'll only be for a month or so.

Press is lighter weights than bench remember...so it hopefully won't be something you can't completely recover from in time for benching again. And it isn't like Press is going to interfere with squat progress.

My plan when I get back up to those weights I need to be on TM for, is to do alternating weeks of volume and intensity press on Recovery Day. I'm not confirmed it won't give issues, but I think it is worth trying.