The bar itself of a dumbbell or barbell may not be really heavy, but it sure adds at least some to the total weight. Let's say you can Bench Press 300 lbs, is that bar included?
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well when it comes to db's the weight written on the db is the actual weight you're lifting. when it comes to barbells that changes because some bars are 25lb, 35lb and 45lb plus the weight you add to it. for example, if you're using a standard size bench press bar and add a 45lb plate to each side, you're lifting 135 lbs. the bar weighs 45lbs plus another 90lbs from the plates, so yes when it comes to barbells you need to add the bar weight to your total weight.
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06-24-2012, 10:35 AM #8No brain, no gain.
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Yes. Especially with a barbell. With dumbells, say you are curling 50's (but it is one of the old fashioned weights with the plates added to it), the actual bar MIGHT add 2.5 lbs, but it is negligible. You don't say, "Hey, are you done with those fifty-two-and-a-half pound weights?" They are just simply, "fifties".
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06-24-2012, 12:38 PM #15
That's what I always figured to, but someone recently mentioned to me while I was at the gym that the dumbbells (at least the ones in my gym) don't count the handle/bar of the dumbbell and all of them are 5lbs heavier than what they say. At first I figured it was just him bull****ting to make himself feel better but we grabbed one of them and put it on the scale and the 20lb dumbbell came up 25 lbs. So go figure.
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06-24-2012, 05:07 PM #19No brain, no gain.
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06-24-2012, 05:17 PM #20
so lets say im going to try to find my 1 RM of something and there is some dirt on the bar when i lift it. should i scrape the dirt off and weigh it and then add it to my total weight?
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06-25-2012, 04:17 PM #26
WOW great question, im so glad you asked
the answer of course is not nearly as straightforward as it seems as it totally depends which planet you're on whilst lifting. See on Mars the bar actually weighs much less as the gravity is 62% lower (hardly worth counting).. but if you happen to be doing squats on saturn welll then i surely would count it, in fact the bar alone would weigh well over 300 lbs....!
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