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    How can you tell if pros are taking SEOs because i'm getting very sad finding out.

    SEO= Synthol and Esiclene right?

    Many bodybuilders were my heroes-substances draw the line but i'm trying SO hard to accept site enhancement oils and implants but it's not happening

    How big were these guys before the substances?

    How big were they from substances,before oils/implants?

    Part of me is dieing reading this

    PLEASE tell me these guys are not small in real life.

    Can you also show me before SEO/after SEO pics?

    Perhaps it can be an alternative to "carbing up"?
    5x5 is the greatest program ever (well, so far).

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    Originally Posted by ronki23 View Post
    SEO= Synthol and Esiclene right?

    Many bodybuilders were my heroes-substances draw the line but i'm trying SO hard to accept site enhancement oils and implants but it's not happening

    How big were these guys before the substances?

    How big were they from substances,before oils/implants?

    Part of me is dieing reading this

    PLEASE tell me these guys are not small in real life.

    Can you also show me before SEO/after SEO pics?

    Perhaps it can be an alternative to "carbing up"?
    There is no evidence that I have seen, but I would bet most pro's use SEO's. Sure they would be big ass mofo's without the oil, but they probably use it to bring up lagging body parts.
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    Originally Posted by GotBigFast View Post
    dude shut up, who cares, worry about yourself..go gain some weight
    Lol strong first post.
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    Lol strong first post.
    Strong first post is strong

    ...but not stronger than 2nd post for other thread
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    Originally Posted by GotBigFast View Post
    dude shut up, who cares, worry about yourself..go gain some weight
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    Lol strong first post.
    Originally Posted by wala View Post
    Strong first post is strong

    ...but not stronger than 2nd post for other thread
    x 3............ and get big fast he wont gain no weight with that there holland and barrret protien lmao its got to be the worst protien on the market lol
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    They are all on that stuff. To what extent, I would say the smart ones use it for like biceps peak, maybe a lagging bodypart, to help balance things out.

    They are all on that crap. The smart ones use it very little and are very good at hiding it. The not so smart ones are obvious.

    SEO's get this...

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    You've got to draw the line somewhere-if they use site enhancement oils and implants then where the f*ck is the real muscle? Even then it's gained through the use of anabolic substances so how much natural muscle exists in these guys? I mean-how big were they before moving on to anabolics?

    Why the f*ck do they use SEOs and implants-can I have some examples of before/after SEOs and implants and how big they were when they were natural/amateurs?
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    Originally Posted by ronki23 View Post
    You've got to draw the line somewhere-if they use site enhancement oils and implants then where the f*ck is the real muscle? Even then it's gained through the use of anabolic substances so how much natural muscle exists in these guys? I mean-how big were they before moving on to anabolics?

    Why the f*ck do they use SEOs and implants-can I have some examples of before/after SEOs and implants and how big they were when they were natural/amateurs?
    your not going to find hardly any guys competing with implants...they are so obvious it's crazy. Many guys will use a little site enhancement oil here and there. I would bet every dollar of my next paycheck 75% of the guys you see competing routine don't use synthol and 99% don't have any implants.
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    your not going to find hardly any guys competing with implants...they are so obvious it's crazy. Many guys will use a little site enhancement oil here and there. I would bet every dollar of my next paycheck 75% of the guys you see competing routine don't use synthol and 99% don't have any implants.
    how can you tell?

    Any famous Olympia/Arnold Classic winners take anything like that?

    How big are they really if they use oil and possibly implants on top of the AAS?
    5x5 is the greatest program ever (well, so far).

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    How do you prove if it's real or not?

    Were these guys actually big before AAS let alone this-it's really demotivating one to go to the gym...
    5x5 is the greatest program ever (well, so far).

    My favourite fighters:

    1. Georges St. Pierre,
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    here is something that will cut you some serious years of hard work and a lot of money spent on diet, training, and others.
    srsly, officials shouldn't let something like this to get in competitions.



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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    here is something that will cut you some serious years of hard work and a lot of money spent on diet, training, and others. officials shouldn't let something like this to get in competitions.




    I don't understand, why would someone like this be allowed to compete anywhere? Back in the 80's we never saw this and bodybuilding got much more publicity.
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    Really?? You want to draw the line at SEO's??
    The sport has been going in these freak show direction for decades how can you expect anything else. The golden years of Arnold Haney Zane and other greats are long gone.
    You cant tell guys to go out there get as big and freaked out looking as you possibly can and then have another bigger stupider guy shoot some oil up in his calves and tell him no thats just unacceptable.
    Tuthfully I hate it all, I dont think these guys should be encouraged to walk on stage at 270 pounds with huge guts. Its a freak show up there its not what it used to be and I dont blame it on SEOs or guys using it. I blame it on the encouragement of the judges and powers that be to accept and encourage the freak instead of the aesthetic look.
    But hey its not like anybody is dying from it or anything...oh wait
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    So are the pros actually small in real life-I mean without even taking AAS let alone synthol/implants do you think at best they're average in size?
    I don't know what to believe anymore-how can you say in words that this/that pro's on something.

    I mean, the pic of the syntholed up bodybuilder-how can you define if he's real or not. At a first glance he looked real but then I saw his off-proportion biceps/triceps (triceps look mushy and overtly-large),ballon-sized calves,extremely ROUND (not square) pecs and overall lack of shreddedness.

    How can you spot it easily-any signs of SEOs or transplants in pros?
    How big were these guys before taking "stuff"-if Arnold did it then Sergio Olivia,Franco Colombu,Serge Nubet, Lou Ferrigno and Mike Mentzer must have taken it too since they were just as big.

    People have even accused Steve Reeves, Reg Park and Larry Scott

    How much muscle do these guys have pre-SEO?
    How much did they have pre-AAS?
    5x5 is the greatest program ever (well, so far).

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    Originally Posted by ronki23 View Post
    So are the pros actually small in real life-I mean without even taking AAS let alone synthol/implants do you think at best they're average in size?
    I don't know what to believe anymore-how can you say in words that this/that pro's on something.

    I mean, the pic of the syntholed up bodybuilder-how can you define if he's real or not. At a first glance he looked real but then I saw his off-proportion biceps/triceps (triceps look mushy and overtly-large),ballon-sized calves,extremely ROUND (not square) pecs and overall lack of shreddedness.

    How can you spot it easily-any signs of SEOs or transplants in pros?
    How big were these guys before taking "stuff"-if Arnold did it then Sergio Olivia,Franco Colombu,Serge Nubet, Lou Ferrigno and Mike Mentzer must have taken it too since they were just as big.

    People have even accused Steve Reeves, Reg Park and Larry Scott

    How much muscle do these guys have pre-SEO?
    How much did they have pre-AAS?
    are you seriously asking this crap? seo's and implants werent around when arnold competed sythol came out in the 90's most bodypart implants werent popular till..........yep the 90's
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    You lose the motivation to train after hearing your favourites take loads of stuff and use oils/transplants

    After hearing this and from my lack of noticeable progress,I even question whether weight training actually builds muscle/strength and whether my mass/strength "gains" have simply come with age and if the pros have it come through gear...
    5x5 is the greatest program ever (well, so far).

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    Originally Posted by ronki23 View Post
    SEO= Synthol and Esiclene right?

    Many bodybuilders were my heroes-substances draw the line but i'm trying SO hard to accept site enhancement oils and implants but it's not happening

    How big were these guys before the substances?

    How big were they from substances,before oils/implants?

    Part of me is dieing reading this

    PLEASE tell me these guys are not small in real life.

    Can you also show me before SEO/after SEO pics?

    Perhaps it can be an alternative to "carbing up"?
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    you know all pros use steroids right?
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    the pros are all genetically gifted, which means they were meant to be big, so yes they would be big regardless. ever seen pics of Ronnie Coleman? dude was jacked from like 13 on.

    who really cares if and what they use? honestly........
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    here is something that will cut you some serious years of hard work and a lot of money spent on diet, training, and others.
    srsly, officials shouldn't let something like this to get in competitions.



    Wow what a joke. SEO's and implants have to be where bodybuilding draws the line. I guess if they can still sell supplements though, nobody is going to give a s***.
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    Originally Posted by Chococat View Post
    They are all on that stuff. To what extent, I would say the smart ones use it for like biceps peak, maybe a lagging bodypart, to help balance things out.

    They are all on that crap. The smart ones use it very little and are very good at hiding it. The not so smart ones are obvious.

    SEO's get this...

    "They're all on it". How the **** would you know?

    Another bodybuilding.com myth.
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    Originally Posted by GotBigFast View Post
    dude shut up, who cares, worry about yourself..go gain some weight
    You're 13 pounds heavier and 4 inches taller so technically you are the same size douche or even a bit smaller.
    Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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    lol op sounds like he's about to cry.

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    Originally Posted by GotBigFast View Post
    hey..BUDDY. close your 33 year old washed up ass up. First off my stats arent updated im somewhere close to 193-195 ish. Second off im 19 years old natural and you Will never EVER have even close to a physique like me..truth hurts. Post some pics and prove me wrong or close your mouth.
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    I wonder how he placed?

    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    here is something that will cut you some serious years of hard work and a lot of money spent on diet, training, and others.
    srsly, officials shouldn't let something like this to get in competitions.



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    Originally Posted by MuscleMan2009 View Post
    I wonder how he placed?
    I don't know. Something looks strange about his right pec though.
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