WTF is happening here?

[massivetuna]

Are you aware that there are still civilizations around the world whose diets contain ~70 percent calories from sat fat and have virtually no incidence of heart problems?

why r u changing the argument from "fast food is hard to digest" to "prove saturated fat doesn't cause heart disease"

if you understand evolution, you would understand that the body can't digest everything, especially if its something we haven't yet adapted to eat.

tell me how we are going to digest something normally when it was invented only a few years ago?


fast food & cheap food was invented to feed the poor without concern for the health effects. Corn Syrup society

and its working, look at kanevskiy eating all those sour patch kids all day

[jsullivan93]

just because most people in the USA are fat and eat **** doesn't mean you have to accept that kind of lifestyle.

woah now. I will never accept that lifestyle dude, I am preaching moderation and self control which the vast majority of people lack. Hell, I didn't have it, I came into high school at 260 pounds at 5'5". So don't you tell me what lifestyle I accept, because I personally rejected that sh*t.

[massivetuna]

why r u changing the argument from "fast food is hard to digest" to "prove saturated fat doesn't cause heart disease"

if you understand evolution, you would understand that the body can't digest everything, especially if its something we haven't yet adapted to eat.

tell me how we are going to digest something normally when it was invented only a few years ago?


fast food & cheap food was invented to feed the poor without concern for the health effects. Corn Syrup society

and its working, look at kanevskiy eating all those sour patch kids all day

No. No such thing as healthy or unhealthy foods.

this all you say when you lose an argument? strong retardism

please mods ban him for trolling

[jsullivan93]

for the love of God moderation. Moderation is key.

[southparkbbb]

No. No such thing as healthy or unhealthy foods.

brb stuffing my face with mcdonals because kanevskiy said theres no such thing as healthy/unhealthy foods
brb what is too much cholesterol?


stfu ***got u dont even lift

[SaviorSelfJT]

How can u even argue with this? How can u argue that all those chemicals on big macs will not have an impact on your health? Lmao isthisreallife? Alright enough, you guys got us. Great trolling, just excellent.

Show proof that the chemicals are bad for you, and I will believe you.

[SaviorSelfJT]

brb stuffing my face with mcdonals because kanevskiy said theres no such thing as healthy/unhealthy foods
brb what is too much cholesterol?


stfu ***got u dont even lift

Dietary cholesterol has very little impact if any on blood cholesterol.

[donmiller212]

moderation is key with anything.

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[EricKanevskiy]

Dietary cholesterol has very little impact if any on blood cholesterol.

This.

Also, nobody said to "stuff your face." Flexible dieting is about moderation. If you lack the self control to avoid "stuffing your face", that's on you, not on me.

[Dtownboogie4]

brb stuffing my face with mcdonals because kanevskiy said theres no such thing as healthy/unhealthy foods
brb what is too much cholesterol?


stfu ***got u dont even lift

as long as you keep the overall diet healthy, the foods you use to get there are completely interchangable

[Snailshoes]

No. No such thing as healthy or unhealthy foods.

...
I think its time we go back to this:

[PlantStrong]

Your body has no problem digesting big macs. Prove it if you think otherwise.

Until then you are just spewing bullshit.

Supersize me.

[southparkbbb]

This.

Also, nobody said to "stuff your face." Flexible dieting is about moderation. If you lack the self control to avoid "stuffing your face", that's on you, not on me.

actually thats not me; my progress>yours in a given timeframe and i lift more than u lb for lb of bodyweight; umad?

[EricKanevskiy]

actually thats not me; my progress>yours in a given timeframe and i lift more than u lb for lb of bodyweight; umad?

Not mad at all considering that's probably false and I couldn't care less either way.

[Rowbro]

IIFYM is okay, with some limitations. For instance, you should always try to avoid toxic chemicals that will damage your body/hinder your gains. IMO Big Macs, sour patch kids/candies and other highly highly processed foods with tons of artificial/modified additives should be avoided at all costs. I for one can tell you that if I drink soda I get bad acne for a few days after. I also get worse B.O. This is because of the acidifying effect of the soda, it just has so many shiity things in it that it negatively affects my body. I can't speak for others but I'm sure that the chemicals in these "foods" cause similar problems for others.

To be as succinct as possible: the FDA is a fücking racket and they seriously do not care about your health.. many studies for drug companies, and the corn and fast food industries are highly biased towards the companies (they lobby the FDA to approve their shiitty products). It's best to eat as healthy as possible. The reason Americans are dying of heart attacks is not simply because they can't handle high fat foods (they CAN); it is actually due to the sedentary nature of most Americans, coupled with the ridiculous proportions of sugars and fats commonly found in foods (for example a doughnut: highly fatty and sugary, causing an unnaturally prolonged skyrocket in insulin).

The answers are really simple. IIFYM works TOTALLY fine for athletes who are serious about their training. Essentially, lifting is not enough to do a legit IIFYM diet (consider Michael Phelps, eats as much of whatever he can). However the key is to fit your MICRO as well. If you don't get your proper micros (and almost no one does) you will run in to immediate problems in your life now and later on in life. Literally that is what will kill you.

[SaviorSelfJT]

I think you guys are just jelly that I have eaten over 1300 kcal worth of bratwurst (loaded with lots of chemicals, and contains ~200% daily value sat fat deemed by our gov), several hamburger pattys (lots of chemicals and sat fat), and I'm heating up my second can of chef boyardee (again with the chemicals and fat).

More specifically that I eat like this consistently, and have normal blood pressure, a pulse rate of sub 60 bpm, healthy cholesterol levels.....and so on

[legendarypanda]

Not mad at all considering that's probably false and I couldn't care less either way.

lol @ your back

auschwitz fitness

and lol @ mods banning me

hey mods, if i'm a troll, how come I squat 460 lbs, deadlift 400, and bench 260? At least I lift, unlike this little scrawny auschwitz joke ******* troll

phuck you mods, you probably dont even lift as much as me

come at me ******* mods, unwilling to ban kanevskiy who just makes troll posts but gets rid of real lifters like babylover/qeynos/etc

[SaviorSelfJT]

IIFYM is okay, with some limitations. For instance, you should always try to avoid toxic chemicals that will damage your body/hinder your gains. IMO Big Macs, sour patch kids/candies and other highly highly processed foods with tons of artificial/modified additives should be avoided at all costs. I for one can tell you that if I drink soda I get bad acne for a few days after. I also get worse B.O. This is because of the acidifying effect of the soda, it just has so many shiity things in it that it negatively affects my body. I can't speak for others but I'm sure that the chemicals in these "foods" cause similar problems for others.

To be as succinct as possible: the FDA is a fücking racket and they seriously do not care about your health.. many studies for drug companies, and the corn and fast food industries are highly biased towards the companies (they lobby the FDA to approve their shiitty products). It's best to eat as healthy as possible. The reason Americans are dying of heart attacks is not simply because they can't handle high fat foods (they CAN); it is actually due to the sedentary nature of most Americans, coupled with the ridiculous proportions of sugars and fats commonly found in foods (for example a doughnut: highly fatty and sugary, causing an unnaturally prolonged skyrocket in insulin).

The answers are really simple. IIFYM works TOTALLY fine for athletes who are serious about their training. Essentially, lifting is not enough to do a legit IIFYM diet (consider Michael Phelps, eats as much of whatever he can). However the key is to fit your MICRO as well. If you don't get your proper micros (and almost no one does) you will run in to immediate problems in your life now and later on in life. Literally that is what will kill you.

Inafter jesse venturas conspiracy theorys

[southparkbbb]

Not mad at all considering that's probably false and I couldn't care less either way.

imma jus leave it at that, not trying to get banned over insulting on a forum

[EricKanevskiy]

lol @ your back

auschwitz fitness

and lol @ mods banning me

hey mods, if i'm a troll, how come I squat 460 lbs, deadlift 400, and bench 260? At least I lift, unlike this little scrawny auschwitz joke ******* troll

phuck you mods, you probably dont even lift as much as me

come at me ******* mods, unwilling to ban kanevskiy who just makes troll posts but gets rid of real lifters like babylover/qeynos/etc

Hai Qeynos

[legendarypanda]

imma jus leave it at that, not trying to get banned over insulting on a forum

yeah be careful anyone who insults kanevskiy gets banned here, even though he is just making troll topics over and over

Hai Qeynos

you even lift bro?

lol @ your physique

strong sour patch kid fat gain

[southparkbbb]

yeah be careful anyone who insults kanevskiy gets banned here, even though he is just making troll topics over and over

mehh its whatever im not rlly tryin to get rapped up in the argument drama bs, its kinda childish imo

[Tonyctattoo]

i am also very conserned about what other people are eating while training when i could be minding my own business using that time on my diet and training scedule.... oh wait

[EricKanevskiy]

mehh its whatever im not rlly tryin to get rapped up in the argument drama bs, its kinda childish imo

Why is it childish? If a misled "clean eater" reads this argument and improves his life because of it, I'd consider that a success.

[PlantStrong]

I think you guys are just jelly that I have eaten over 1300 kcal worth of bratwurst (loaded with lots of chemicals, and contains ~200% daily value sat fat deemed by our gov), several hamburger pattys (lots of chemicals and sat fat), and I'm heating up my second can of chef boyardee (again with the chemicals and fat).

More specifically that I eat like this consistently, and have normal blood pressure, a pulse rate of sub 60 bpm, healthy cholesterol levels.....and so on

It won't last forever. There is more to health than a normal bp and cholesterol levels. It's your body so you can do whatever you want, just don't expect to have a high quality of life when you're older.

[jsullivan93]

[southparkbbb]

Why is it childish? If a misled "clean eater" reads this argument and improves his life because of it, I'd consider that a success.

how am i a misled clean eater because i CHOOSE not to eat junk food or fastfood? i honestly prefer lean meats, complex carbs, and veggies to that junk food any day; its much more filling than junk food for one and since i eat like a horse it helps when cutting cals down; also feel like an unmotivated **** if i start eating crap food; just my life choice. it has worked better for me than urs has for u

[tundraphoenix]

Why is it childish? If a misled "clean eater" reads this argument and improves his life because of it, I'd consider that a success.

ya, well i'd consider you a failure

inb4 10 year old girl lifts more than another scrawny ******* who doesn't lift makes fitness channel

[tundraphoenix]

how am i a misled clean eater because i CHOOSE not to eat junk food or fastfood? i honestly prefer lean meats, complex carbs, and veggies to that junk food any day; its much more filling than junk food for one and since i eat like a horse it helps when cutting cals down; also feel like an unmotivated **** if i start eating crap food; just my life choice. it has worked better for me than urs has for u

its optimal to eat junk food and sour patch kids