Why Do People Revere Kobe and Hate Lebron When...

[brianphi]

Kobe has recorded the highest 4th quarter scoring average in NBA history. You mad?

Oh snap, when I first read that I thought it said highest assist average.

[businesslawbrah]

Kobe is worse.

lol @ discusing FG%'s. How about we talk about what matters most... 5x NBA champion Kobe GOAT Bryant >>> LeStatPadder

[RagingS2090]

Kobe has recorded the highest 4th quarter scoring average in NBA history. You mad?

LA Lakers- 2013 NBA Champions
LA Lakers- 2013 NBA Champions
LA Lakers- 2013 NBA Champions

[brianphi]

shaq said kobe was quiet, and the only problem they had with each other is that kobe was mad the team didn't have his back during the rape allegations.. kobe expected them to stick up for him even though kobe never said a word to them about the situation. He didn't hate kobe.

you kidding me? He left based on Kobe's attitude and how the Lakers decided to move forward, firing Phil and focusing on the Kobe show... something Kobe had been critiqued negatively about for years by fans, media etc... you know Shaq wrote a book, and talked plenty about Kobe, if you wish to read it.

[WestAfrica]

If any of you bring up his not one, not two, not three... You are a *******. If you are a free agent, free agent...and you sign with a new team what is the first thing you are asked? "why did you sign here?" do you want them to say "I signed with so n so so we could finish in the 11th spot in the east. Don't even worry about playoffs, maybe in 3 yrs we can fight for the 8th spot."

Please go...

When you sign you talk about winning. Rex Ryan, Peyton, Brees, every other superstar in sports history...

Lol why are you calling Lebron insecure, we are the ones making fun of his hairline...

Oh and Kobe - complains about not having players, talks about wanting out, makes WWHS vid clowning on Bynum but don't worry he's Kobe

[AriGhold]

Does Kobe have more rings than the entire Heat/OKC roster combined?

You don't know bball, stop preteneding. You're embarrassing yourself even more...

the robert horry defense. rings are important. but don't be blind to stats. somehow kobe is called a clutch player when he has horrible 4th quarter numbers and has missed more game winning/tying shots than anyone else in the conversation. you are the one who sounds like you don't know what you are talking about when your only defense is rings.

[DubstepDealer]

LA Lakers- 2013 NBA Champions
LA Lakers- 2013 NBA Champions
LA Lakers- 2013 NBA Champions

I know, right? Delusional fans are delusional.

[yungbreezy]

the robert horry defense. rings are important. but don't be blind to stats. somehow kobe is called a clutch player when he has horrible 4th quarter numbers and has missed more game winning/tying shots than anyone else in the conversation. you are the one who sounds like you don't know what you are talking about when your only defense is rings.

Your level of hate is ridiculous.

I'm still waiting on proof of these supposed horrible 4th quarter numbers too.

[InsanePain11]

If any of you bring up his not one, not two, not three... You are a *******. If you are a free agent, free agent...and you sign with a new team what is the first thing you are asked? "why did you sign here?" do you want them to say "I signed with so n so so we could finish in the 11th spot in the east. Don't even worry about playoffs, maybe in 3 yrs we can fight for the 8th spot."

Please go...

When you sign you talk about winning. Rex Ryan, Peyton, Brees, every other superstar in sports history...

Lol why are you calling Lebron insecure, we are the ones making fun of his hairline...

Oh and Kobe - complains about not having players, talks about wanting out, makes WWHS vid clowning on Bynum but don't worry he's Kobe

Lebron's signing was different and way over the top. He basically said winning would be easy and they would win multiple titles. Those other free agents you mention usually just say something like 'I want to help my new team win and work to get to the championship level'. That's not what Lebron said at all. He was arrogant, dumb, and slapped all Cleveland fans in the face, not for leaving but for the way he went about it. I don't hate Lebron at all but I'm not a fan of his antics and I can admit he went about the decision in a really stupid manner.

[alphamale5010]

lol @ discusing FG%'s. How about we talk about what matters most... 5x NBA champion Kobe GOAT Bryant >>> LeStatPadder

Teams win rings bro. Take that ring argument elsewhere. When you can go 6-24 in game 7 of the finals and still win it means your team bailed you out. Nice try bro

[jross2021]

you kidding me? He left based on Kobe's attitude and how the Lakers decided to move forward, firing Phil and focusing on the Kobe show... something Kobe had been critiqued negatively about for years by fans, media etc... you know Shaq wrote a book, and talked plenty about Kobe, if you wish to read it.

I read the book, the only time he mentioned kobe's beef was when he was talking about the rape allegations and how mad kobe was for the team not sticking up for him. if im not mistaken.

[DubstepDealer]

Lebron's signing was different and way over the top. He basically said winning would be easy and they would win multiple titles. Those other free agents you mention usually just say something like 'I want to help my new team win and work to get to the championship level'. That's not what Lebron said at all. He was arrogant, dumb, and slapped all Cleveland fans in the face, not for leaving but for the way he went about it. I don't hate Lebron at all but I'm not a fan of his antics and I can admit he went about the decision in a really stupid manner.

Pretty smart to me. Who wants to retire in Cleveland?

[yungbreezy]

Teams win rings bro. Take that ring argument elsewhere. When you can go 6-24 in game 7 of the finals and still win it means your team bailed you out. Nice try bro

So you saying Jordan also wasn't any good because he went 5-19 in Game 7 vs Seattle?

[thefederalist]

Pretty smart to me. Who wants to retire in Cleveland?

this. lol in b4 kyrie's Decision

[DubstepDealer]

this. lol in b4 kyrie's Decision

Even michael jordan used to play a few rounds of golf with his buddies. Cleveland ain't the spot for that.

[InsanePain11]

Pretty smart to me. Who wants to retire in Cleveland?

Good job missing the whole point of the post.

I just explained I don't blame him for leaving at all, but for the dumbass way that he did it. Can you comprehend that?

[Shortstop36]

that's my point. i can't look at guys like kobe and jordan and celebrate them. we complain so much on the MISC about how women are sluts and yet see no problem with guys cheating on their wives. i'd rather have my future son admire lebron than a habitual adulterer.

Sig: Here In The Love of Christ I Stand



Your personal biases are obvious based upon this thread. People like Kobe Bryant more than Lebron James because Kobe has been there and done that and is a 5x nba champion, and 2x finals mvp.

simple.

[truffles]

LMAO OP IS A *******.

BRB Change title to "Why do people revere kobe because he is a pimp and hate lebron when all he does is be a douchebag?"

[DubstepDealer]

Good job missing the whole point of the post.

I just explained I don't blame him for leaving at all, but for the dumbass way that he did it. Can you comprehend that?

How was it dumb?

[thefederalist]

Sig: Here In The Love of Christ I Stand



Your personal biases are obvious based upon this thread. People like Kobe Bryant more than Lebron James because Kobe has been there and done that and is a 5x nba champion, and 2x finals mvp.

simple.

a belief that cheating is wrong is not a uniquely christian position.

he didn't cheat on his girlfriend or **** buddy. this isn't about monogamy as much as integrity, of which kobe has none.

even if you don't consider marriage in a religious light, it is a lifelong promise of faithfulness to another person.

[DubstepDealer]

lemme guess, he picked up, "little red, riding hood," and read it to some kids. Then when he finished reading the book, he said he was going to go take his talents, elsewhere.

[alphamale5010]

So you saying Jordan also wasn't any good because he went 5-19 in Game 7 vs Seattle?

Never said Kobe wasn't any good. Just said rings don't define the player. MJ also has 5 mvps which is way more indicative of how dominant a player is.

MVP= individual

Ring= team

[InnerThighChafe]

I hate lebron and I would absolutely not want him on the Thunder... he just seems so insecure, it's annoying.

fukkk I thought you were a celtics fan and look how many responses you have in this thread lol



The reason why people don't like lebron is because of the media and the reason why people like kobe now is because of the media. Sheeps gonna sheep

[matt01621]

People hate Lebron because hes an ego maniac who gets "chosen one" tatted across his back and then runs away from his hometown team that he was supposed to be the savior of. Then on national tv he stabbed them in the back and proceeded to gloat about how many championships he was going to win. He then made a fool of himself by wilting under the pressure during last years finals. Yes hes one of the best players in the league and arguably the best athlete in the world, but hes a joke and rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

[yungbreezy]

Never said Kobe wasn't any good. Just said rings don't define the player. MJ also has 5 mvps which is way more indicative of how dominant a player is.

MVP= individual

Ring= team

Not at all.

MVP = Media voted nonsense.

Ring = Stepping up when it counts. You can use the rings not defining a player argument for role players, not for superstars.

[AriGhold]

Your level of hate is ridiculous.

I'm still waiting on proof of these supposed horrible 4th quarter numbers too.

i don't hate kobe, he's been one of my favorite players to watch. but i refuse to tell you that he is a clutch player when he is not. at least not at the level that people continue to believe.


Kobe Bryant’s 4th Quarter FG % in the Regular Season in his prime (including Overtime):
2000-2001: 176-393(44.8%) – Overtime: 17-29(58.6%)
2001-2002: 187-439(42.9%) – Overtime: 1-12(8.3%)
2002-2003: 236-560(42.1%) – Overtime: 14-36(38.9%)
2003-2004: 172-421(40.9%) – Overtime: 11-27(40.7%)
2004-2005: 144-338(42.6%) – Overtime: 3-14(21.4%)
2005-2006: 236-578(40.8%) – Overtime: 20-39(51.3%)
2006-2007: 192-478(40.2%) – Overtime: 24-44(54.5%)
2007-2008: 228-482(46.1%) – Overtime: 8-23(34.8%)
2008-2009: 208-490(42.4%) – Overtime: 9-20(45%)
2009-2010: 191-464(41.2%) – Overtime: 12-24(50%)
2010-2011: 151-389(38.8%) – Overtime: 7-19(36%)
2011-2012: 76-194(39.1%) – Overtime: 2-10(20%)
Career Total = 2,197-5,020(43.7%) – Career Overtime Total: 128-302(42.3%)

LeBron James’ 4th Quarter FG % in the Regular Season (including Overtime):
2003-2004: 130-355(36.6%) – Overtime: 8-18(44.4%)
2004-2005: 174-396(43.9%) – Overtime: 7-20(35%)
2005-2006: 230-478(48.1%) – Overtime: 11-14(78.6%)
2006-2007: 241-517(46.6%) – Overtime: 20-35(57.1%)
2007-2008: 255-524(46.6%) – Overtime: 10-23(43.5%)
2008-2009: 198-421(47.1%) – Overtime: 9-18(50%)
2009-2010: 208-429(48.5%) – Overtime: 6-17(35.3%)
2010-2011: 182-399(45.6%) – Overtime: 10-18(55.6%)
2011-2012: 41-92(44.6%) – Overtime: 1-6(16.7%)
Career Total: 1,648-3,611(45.6%) – Career Overtime Total: 84-169(49.7%)

Kobe Bryant’s 4th Quarter FG % in the Playoffs (including Overtime):
2001: 38-77(49.4%) – Overtime: 2-3(66.7%)
2002: 52-106(49.1%) – Overtime: 0-0
2003: 37-83(44.3%) – Overtime: 0-3
2004: 46-126(36.5%) – Overtime: 4-8(50%)
2006: 16-43(37.2%) – Overtime: 7-9(77.8%)
2007: 10-34(29.4%) – Overtime: 0-0
2008: 58-124(46.8%) – Overtime: 1-7(14.3%)
2009: 49-125(39.2%) – Overtime: 3-7(42.9%)
2010: 45-121(37.2%) – Overtime: 0-0
2011: 12-39(30.8%) – Overtime: 0-0
Career Total: 363-878(41.3%) – Career Overtime Total: 17-37(45.9%)

LeBron James’ 4th Quarter FG % in the Playoffs (including Overtime):
2006: 37-85(43.5%) – Overtime: 3-3
2007: 56-123(45.5%) – Overtime: 6-8(75%)
2008: 30-76(39.5%) – Overtime: 0-0
2009: 35-76(46.1%) – Overtime: 3-7(42.9%)
2010: 32-60(53.3%) – Overtime: 0-0
2011: 45-105(42.9%) – Overtime: 3-6(50%)
Career Total: 235-525(44.7%) – Career Overtime Total: 15-24(62.5%)

[InnerThighChafe]

Not at all.

MVP = Media voted nonsense.

Ring = Stepping up when it counts. You can use the rings not defining a player argument for role players, not for superstars.

Basically what you're saying is a single player can win a championship without any help

[thefederalist]

People hate Lebron because hes an ego maniac who gets "chosen one" tatted across his back and then runs away from his hometown team that he was supposed to be the savior of. Then on national tv he stabbed them in the back and proceeded to gloat about how many championships he was going to win. He then made a fool of himself by wilting under the pressure during last years finals. Yes hes one of the best players in the league and arguably the best athlete in the world, but hes a joke and rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

if you believe that The Decision was more of an ego-maniacal act than banging sloots behind your wife's back for the better part of a decade then you're an idiot.

Lebron in part agreed to do the Decision because ESPN pledged all the ad revenue to charity. 6 million dollars went to charitable organizations that night.

[InnerThighChafe]

if you believe that The Decision was more of an ego-maniacal act than banging sloots behind your wife's back for the better part of a decade then you're an idiot.

Lebron in part agreed to do the Decision because ESPN pledged all the ad revenue to charity. 6 million dollars went to charitable organizations that night.

Inb4 they say it doesn't matter or just not respond to it




also I don't believe in the term "clutch player", someone show me stats that show a player hit 75% of his shots needed to win the game in the 4th quarter......................no one.

[alphamale5010]

Media award that is voted by a panel of basketball experts. Would u rather it be voted on by fans. Brb Yao Ming mvp