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[ErickStevens]

I remember seeing the phrase "if it fits in your macros" in the MEN thread in like 2008-2009. I made up the acronym to simplify the message in 2010.

Always thought Manu was the first one to come up with that.. somewhere!?


Oh lawd, saw this yesterday (starts at 1:50):

[Lvisaa2]

I think this was the first youtube video made about IIFYM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

[MITCHAPAL00ZA]

I think this was the first youtube video made about IIFYM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

[miacanesfan25]

I thought it originated some time in the summer of 2010... I was close, lol.

Vince Delmonte is going to love my video response to him.

Question, just listened to the first few minutes of your response while riding into work. In the beginning and I know I'm not being verbatim here (yt is blocked on my government comp so I'm winging it) you talk about how Vince says iffym is an excuse or lazy or whatever. You go on to say something along the lines of, if eating pop tarts gets the same results as brown rice for instance, that's "intellegent" instead of lazy. In the Army, when we do pre-deployment training they teach us to take the "path of least resistance" to get to the objective or get through the attacking front. Is this the same concept somewhat? For some reason every time this debate comes up that pops into my head and it seems like a pretty legit way to explain the concept of working smarter and not harder to reach the same goal. I know I'm not factoring in micros or anything like that but, the basic concept itself is what I'm referring to.

[JasonDB]

Always thought Manu was the first one to come up with that.. somewhere!?


Oh lawd, saw this yesterday (starts at 1:50):

Already gave my reply in another thread.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post898288191

[deadpool9]

I cant answer for everyone else, but I have found better strength gain and equal weight loss on IIFYM than when I used to believe in the Bro diets.
I have been doing IIFYM for the last 18 months and probably look the best aesthetically I have ever been on this cut, and was at my strongest on my last bulk.

I lol'ed when he said you cant lose weight while eating Krispy Kreme.

[vitornoob]

...first suggested the IIFYM acronym for newbs who kept posting threads about whether [X food] is okay to consume while cutting, etc. I think it was a couple of years ago, at least. Thanks in advance to the skilled ninja who is able to find this.

Alan came due to Ian's video

I think this was the first youtube video made about IIFYM

you fucking got me

I remember seeing the phrase "if it fits in your macros" in the MEN thread in like 2008-2009. I made up the acronym to simplify the message in 2010.



[img]http://www.erickstevens.net/imdone.gif[img]

you ever thought of patenting? selling t-shirts and getting money? trololo

[MASSter]

Always thought Manu was the first one to come up with that.. somewhere!?


Oh lawd, saw this yesterday (starts at 1:50):

Wow! Does he even lift? Soft doesn't even begin to describe this fool.

[juliacheh]

Wow! Does he even lift? Soft doesn't even begin to describe this fool.

Explain this please.

I am not a fan or anything to clarify.

[x-ray vision]

Edit: ^^ Blow me PB.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=125929333

A good half year before Erick's thread. Too lazy to look any more tbqh. Best I could do in 5 minutes.

This is also the earliest post I can find for "IIFYM" without the extra "I" first used by Erick. The only other time the exact acronym was used in 2010 was when the same poster used it the next day.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post517497493

It didn't really take off until Erick used it in this thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...63&p=616264343

Edited to add - for the sake of trivia, the acronym was 1st introduced by ErickStevens on April 9th, 2010, in response to someone asking if he can have cranberry juice on a cut.

More trivia: First use of "mirin" :
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post199650571

[AdamWW]

Strong this I still get random emails from the once-sticky I wrote up a long time ago. Been asked for interviews, review of diets/routines, help design a fitness app for iPhone (strong wtf) as well as a billion stupid questions about the video I made on youtube with a sample diet utilsing IIFYM. Also seen big names reference the term itself, giving their 'view' on the 'movement' and what they think of it.

It absolutely blows my fuking mind that people still cannot comprehend that if you are consuming nutrients to meet a specific macronutrient goal, you are 'doing' IIFYM. It is like body building has been split down the middle between IIFYMers and Anti-IIFYMers.

Strong this.

Annoying that people come into threads, start blabbing on about pop tarts for all your carbs, whey for all your protein, and pure shortening for all fats and saying that's what IIFYM is.

They then go on to explain how only eating oats, egg whites, chicken, and brown rice is the right way to do it. But all they're doing to using an approach is amounts to more food volume but the same end result: a calculated diet based on macro goals. So retarded.

Not sure how it was made so unclear that macros are not the same as food names or choices.

[x-ray vision]

^ I'm not following you. You just stated that an incorrect assessment of IIFYM is made by those that ridicule it by pointing out that it then would be okay to get your nutrition from Pop-Tarts, whey powder and shortening. These same critics then go on to recommend a typical "clean" or "bro" diet. Then you add:

But all they're doing to using an approach is amounts to more food volume but the same end result: a calculated diet based on macro goals. So retarded.

You think composing a diet of mostly Pop-Tarts, whey powder and shortening will give you the same end result as a diet composed of mostly whole foods high in micro-nutrients? You think those that are eating bro diets are only concerned with "a calculated diet based on macro goals" and not micro-nutrients, fiber, satiety, etc.?

[likeawashboard]

^
I think you missed his point, he didn't say a diet composed of purely pop-tarts and whey etc would be the same, he was pointing out that bro-tards think that this is what IIFYM preaches.

"But all they're doing to using an approach is amounts to more food volume but the same end result: a calculated diet based on macro goals. So retarded. "

I think he means that the end result is the same despite what the bro's believe, that the result wasn't because they ate only "clean" foods.

Perhaps it could have been worded better.

[x-ray vision]

^
I think you missed his point, he didn't say a diet composed of purely pop-tarts and whey etc would be the same, he was pointing out that bro-tards think that this is what IIFYM preaches.

I know he pointed out bro-tards think that this is what IIFYM preaches; I said that in my post.

I think he means that the end result is the same despite what the bro's believe, that the result wasn't because they ate only "clean" foods.

I know. The end result with just Pop-Tarts, whey powder and shortening won't be the same.

[likeawashboard]

I know. The end result with just Pop-Tarts, whey powder and shortening won't be the same.

I know, but Adam didn't say that when you questioned him.

[x-ray vision]

I know, but Adam didn't say that when you questioned him.

The two protocols he compared was a typical bro diet and one composed of Pop-Tarts, whey powder and shortening and then claimed the end result would be the same. What are you talking about?

[likeawashboard]

The two protocols he compared was a typical bro diet and one composed of Pop-Tarts, whey powder and shortening and then claimed the end result would be the same. What are you talking about?

No he was comparing the "bro" diet to "IIFYM", not what the bro's think IIFYM is, how do you not see this.

Here Adam explains what bros think.

Annoying that people come into threads, start blabbing on about pop tarts for all your carbs, whey for all your protein, and pure shortening for all fats and saying that's what IIFYM is.

He then goes onto compare IIFYM and bro diets.

They then go on to explain how only eating oats, egg whites, chicken, and brown rice is the right way to do it. But all they're doing to using an approach is amounts to more food volume but the same end result: a calculated diet based on macro goals. So retarded.

[x-ray vision]

Okay, that makes sense, but "a calculated diet based on macro goals" is not what the bros are after- they specifically usually mention that that's not what it's all about when they put down IIFYM.

[likeawashboard]

Okay, that makes sense, but "a calculated diet based on macro goals" is not what the bros are after- they specifically usually mention that that's not what it's all about when they put down IIFYM.

Yeah I agree on that.

[braggable]

What I found interesting reading the old threads was seing Braggable posting like a normal human being before becoming part of the dynamic troll-duo with Johntranny-olo of all things.

The dejavu of the Nutrition section steals your soul. I had enough of people asking the same thing over and over.

I became a Miscer for a while before coming back here to show my loyalty to the one true NutMisc King: johnpagnolo.

[likeawashboard]

The dejavu of the Nutrition section steals your soul. I had enough of people asking the same thing over and over.

I became a Miscer for a while before coming back here to show my loyalty to the one true NutMisc King: johnpagnolo.

Do you iron his clothes and do his washing too?

[bappz08]

Anyone have any SFW IIFYM wristbands w/sayings em'... too lazy to make one.

[braggable]

Do you iron his clothes and do his washing too?

The Hand of The King doesn't do peasant work.

I assist him in making decisions and how to rule over you poor dumb villagers.

[JasonDB]

The Hand of The King doesn't do peasant work.

I assist him in making decisions and how to rule over you poor dumb villagers.

The King ****s and the Hand wipes.

[braggable]

The King ****s and the Hand wipes.

You, sir, forget yourself.

[miacanesfan25]

Who washes the royal penor?

[braggable]

Who washes the royal penor?

Usually the wenches of the royal court. The wenches of the NMisc have not yet been announced but I have some insight into who they are.

[desslok]

The dejavu of the Nutrition section steals your soul. I had enough of people asking the same thing over and over.

I became a Miscer for a while before coming back here to show my loyalty to the one true NutMisc King: johnpagnolo.

Yeah but do they serve free cheeseburgers there?

[braggable]

Yeah but do they serve free cheeseburgers there?

I got the memo today. Aware and ready.

[johnpagnolo]

I am here, calm down everyone.

You all will have your place in my court, even the nutmisc *******s...and Alan (once he loses some more fat).

As far as the IIFYM originator, I would like all credit to be given to me please.

johnpagnolo
king of the nut misc